# how do you know you've OD'd? it's all about congruence.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 2, 2007, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-know-youve-odd-its-all-about-congruence/1885 "2007-02-02T23:25:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-know-youve-odd-its-all-about-congruence/1885/2 "2007-02-02T23:37:10Z")
> [@](#): > > so, i think if you can be congruent with the signature you put out, there is no such thing as an OD. if you put out an aggressive vibe and try to rush through the day without engaging people that much (whether it’s lack of time or you’re just tired), you’ll come off awkward or you’ll think you OD’d, and then your subsequent reactions will emphasize that whole incongruence. I think you are right on the money for the most part. Tacitus posted this reply in his thread [High performance communication: a 650 mu megadose of MEO-EST and putatives](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/more-hi-performance-communication-swill/1849) > [@High performance communication: a 650 mu megadose of MEO-EST and putatives](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-performance-communication-a-650-mu-megadose-of-meo-est-and-putatives/1849/4): > > Ummmm… there’s a lot of backstory on this usage… probably too damn intense for the noobie ot the intermediate user… for some reason I do fine with gobs o’ pheromones, except maybe to much androstenone or androstadienol unless it is heavily buffered… I think this is like the difference between driving a Formula 1 car and a nice street legal Beemer… because of my extensive, and ongoing acting training I am used to maintaining unusually high levels of social and conversational concentration, and being in “head spaces” that would be strange, uncomfortable, too freaking intimate, whatever… so there is a long development of background emotional/communication and self regualtion skill that allows one to function easily in extreme psychological states, over time these have come to seem/feel/operate as completely natural to me… this might not be true (at all) , just like the beginner actor stands in front of a group of people and is paralysed with stage fright… because pheromones foster powerful states of connection and real communication, the kind that you gain large strides in emotional growth from, they also entail being able to go to places of emotional nakedness, risk, truthfulness, and real intimacy that might be completely foreign to John Q. Regular Guy… which always returns me to the belief that pheromones and emotional skill are intertwined things… the use of pheromones CAN be part of the process that lead one to places of much higher emotional intelligence… I suppose in the hands of a emotionally limited, neurotic, rigid, or highly suspicious personality, these dose ranges might seem like having all of one’s defenses removed before one was prepared… but the discomfort is psychological, although many psychological issues present themselfs as physiologic… so one might report tension, or tightness, or any number of autonomic-bodily sensations that are, in reality, emotional in orignin… If you can maintain congruency with the amount of pheromones you will be ok, but their is a limit for every individual that no matter how much you try or in Tacitus case, train, you won’t be able to keep up. That’s when the ghost effect will come in to play. I am not an agressive person, plus i’m type O so if I wear -none it has to be an almost non existant amount. Tacitus is smooth enough to pull of very high doses and even major od’s for most people. I am sure though there is a level that even Tacitus would get the ghost effect from. It has also been said that if you go past the ghost effect levels people’s subconcious will just ignor it all together. It’s like cooking octopus. Time it right and it comes out tender. A little to much and it’s chewy, but if you keep cooking it for an extended period it will become tender once again even though at this point you’ve damaged your fine quizine’s integrity. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-know-youve-odd-its-all-about-congruence/1885)._