# How do you think A Woman Should Be Treated? **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [June 6, 2007, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005 "2007-06-06T04:51:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![charles198026](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@charles198026](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/charles198026)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/1 "2007-06-06T04:51:53Z")
I keep running into this conversation when I talk about my relationships. Apparently pretty much all the guys I know think you should either treat a woman like you don’t care about them, or treat them bad. Am I in the total minority because I actually want to try to be a gentleman? ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 6:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/2 "2007-06-06T06:04:18Z")
worth a read [DeWussified: The Path To Masculine Power » What Women Want](http://www.dewussified.com/category/what-women-want/) also read way of the superior man by david deida ---
**Author:** ![charles198026](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@charles198026](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/charles198026)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 6:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/3 "2007-06-06T06:26:43Z")
Ok ignoring that guy. ---
**Author:** ![charles198026](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@charles198026](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/charles198026)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 6:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/4 "2007-06-06T06:27:45Z")
Are there any more takers who would prefer to add a constructive opinion? ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 6:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/5 "2007-06-06T06:57:38Z")
David Deida isn’t to everyone’s taste, but is one of the most insightful writers on male/female dynamics that I have encountered. What is it about him that doesn’t appeal? Maybe things are different in your part of the world, but where I grew up it’s traditional to be polite to people who respond to your thread. ---
**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 11:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/6 "2007-06-06T11:10:24Z")
as a woman…i like being treated like a lady. as soon as you stop being a gentleman, you cease to be of any interest to me. and I don’t mean being a wuss - i mean treating me with basic human respect and dignity, and understanding and accepting my boundaries. the guys I like the best - don’t kiss my ass. they don’t put up fronts, and they aren’t artificial. They are guys that know how to relate to women, but don’t put women on pedestals. They are able to have conversations about anything and everything, and appreciate a woman who can think. Also - while they won’t take shit off of anyone - they don’t go starting shit either. ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 12:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/7 "2007-06-06T12:14:32Z")
My best advice for getting a chick who is both hot (physically) and cool (mentally) is to take the “I don’t care what you think” attitude of a jerky guy and civilize it. Treat every woman you meet with total respect, but do not cater to her flaws or fear her upsets. Maintain your equanimity and sense of humor no matter what. This translates to a high quality guy who will be both good in bed and good in a crisis. - Kitten ---
**Author:** ![thr3shold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thr3shold/32/2316_2.png) [@thr3shold](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thr3shold)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 1:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/8 "2007-06-06T13:11:19Z")
> [@Kitten](#): > > This translates to a high quality guy who will be both good in bed and good in a crisis. > > - Kitten I really don’t think that follows. However, I agree with Kitten and Nunya for the most part. I hold to the idea of actually behaving like an adult. To me this means showing women you are interested you appreciate them, but not overly…you aren’t a door mat nor a money machine. This means having respect for women, other people (they notice this, believe me) and most importantly yourself. So anyone who doesn’t treat you with the respect you offer up isn’t worth your time. ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 3:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/9 "2007-06-06T15:21:17Z")
> [@charles198026](#): > > Ok ignoring that guy. I have puzzled over your response here. Is the problem that he asked you to consider reading a book? I’ve found PheroQuirk to have excellent insights and resources in the past. He can be relied upon to bring enlightening perspectives to any subject he engages. The books he recommended to you look highly interesting and speak exactly to the point you’re raising. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/10 "2007-06-06T16:22:06Z")
Maybe he wanted responses only from women in the Lounge!🙄 ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/11 "2007-06-06T16:35:10Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > David Deida isn’t to everyone’s taste, but is one of the most insightful writers on male/female dynamics that I have encountered. david dieda is full of BS, ive read his book, way of the superior man, the man is delusional, what can across to me, is he considers himself to be some guru with huge insight into human relations and behaviour, he also adds alot of eastern religious innuendo (hindu in particular) to back up his theories which ofcourse is just a ploy to make his teaching have a spiritual basis, he is also very enthocentric, dealing mainly with north american culture, but anyone that understands male/female dynamics also knows that its roots go beyound any particular culture ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2007, 4:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/12 "2007-06-06T16:49:36Z")
while this isnt 100% what your asking about its still has some relevence. The only “guru” iv seen that looks to me as a mature person is juggler aka charisma arts. His method removes the whole “i am the prize” thingumy from the interaction and instead takes a more “im a guy she’s a girl, and im interested in getting to know what kind of person she is”/“they like us becouse we like them” approach. so instead of doing magic tricks and offending her, you show yourself and your, your strengths and weaknesses in a way so she feels comfortable enough to open up to you and tell you about her self. in sumery, its actually more a way of communicating with people then a seduction method, you can get deep 2way respectfull friendships, and sex/relationship is really just a possible bonus. And while it sounds like its mainly to find ltr’s its just as effective for one night’ers in nightclubs as long as you can hear what the girl says and talk loud enough for her to hear you. (btw im no master at this, in fact iv only just started studieng it, iv just seen it work enough times to know that it.. does work) quick sumery of what i think. I think you should treat women with repsect, though theire natural way of being treated is slightly below men, we should in our more (or less… depending on what part of the civilization you choose to look at, atleast our forfathers werent poluting at the rate we are) civilised be able to treat eachother with respect without recieving resent in return, though that is what many of the guru’s teach us will happen, and its sadly also happened to me a few times, but iv also seen that the opposit is possible. well, ill wrap this up before it becomes a novel =P ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/13 "2007-06-07T01:06:21Z")
> [@thr3shold](#): > > I really don’t think that follows. My reasoning: Self control=good in bed and good in a crisis. The good in bed part is pretty obvious (hard to get tantric or taoist or esoteric or kinky without self control). The good in a crisis part: if a guy pees his pants just because I give him a “look,” how likely is it that he can protect me from someone who is truly dangerous? ---
**Author:** ![Scaro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scaro/32/2439_2.png) [@Scaro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scaro)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 1:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/14 "2007-06-07T01:12:22Z")
> [@charles198026](#): > > Ok ignoring that guy. > [@charles198026](#): > > Are there any more takers who would prefer to add a constructive opinion? Ah, “constructive criticism.” Nothing quite like being rude to a person who took the time to try and help you, and then make it clear you aren’t interested in other people’s opinions, merely interested in validating your existing beliefs. This may be a generational thing, but from what I observe, the term “gentleman” really needs to be retired. Tends to end up "Well a GENTLEMAN would… \ which basically boils down to be a doormat. I may be wrong in this instance, but generally when I see this topic mentioned from a guy 90% of the time it is a dreaded no action “nice guy” using proper manners as a way to prop up an ego from a lack of success and to feel morally superior over those that have success. A MUCH better question would be, “How do you think a PERSON should be treated?” In which case the answer is quite simple, ditch those that are rude and treat well those that treat you well. Your question SCREAMS bad social conditioning. Why not just focus on having fun and your vibe in interactions, things that are 10,000 times more important. ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/15 "2007-06-07T01:28:06Z")
check out juggler method aka charisma arts. thats pretty much how i think girls should be treated, with the right kind of respect. he’s teachings are radically different from most other guru’s and runs mostly on conversational abilities instead of magic tricks and saying "neg"ative things to girls. sure, magic tricks and and negs work, otherwise people wouldnt be using them, but in my eyes its somwhat disrespectfull towards girls, in my eyes atleast. where as juggler goes more along the lines of they like us becouse we like them, its a way of getting to know other people on a deep personal level, and showing that you respect them, though you may not always agree with them, you still respect them, which allows people to be more open and comfortable. sex and relationships are just a possible bonus ^^ ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/16 "2007-06-07T01:29:40Z")
.. iv posted 3 longer postes to this thread today, and none of them showed up… so ill do this quick, its a sumary of the other posts, this is how girls should be treated: [Charisma Arts - Dating, Attraction and Seduction tips](http://www.charismaarts.com/) EDIT incredible… it finally posted somthing… sadly its the short version =/ well, ill just go more indepth anyway. juggler method is a very radical compared to the other methods out there, there is no “you are the prize” instead theres a lot of different things, bassicly the whole thing can be sumed up in the sentence “they like us becouse we like them” its more a communication skillset then a way of seducing, its all natural and you, not some guru jumping into your mouth and controlling what you say. but it does have some specific guidelines that you can follow (or mix around the order a bit if you feel like it.. its a good idea to start with the oppening though 😉 ) sex and relationship are really just a bonus of being able to open up on a deep personal level, and at the same time have people open up to you on a deep personal level. its really just about showing respect for people around you. well better stop before i start repeating myself, 3 am over here, so if there are any errors in it.. well.. thats why ^^ ---
**Author:** ![Scaro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scaro/32/2439_2.png) [@Scaro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scaro)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/17 "2007-06-07T01:45:37Z")
rollercoaster: Have to slightly disagree with you on the “you are the prize” part. Certain elements such as vacuuming ARE high status/confidence prizing, just a very different take on it. You vacuum and WAIT for a response because you EXPECT an answer, which conveys good things in a very indirect manner. ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/18 "2007-06-07T02:23:44Z")
yea, your right, it does have traces of it. but its not somthing you need to keep in the back of your mind at all times in order to keep your cool. btw, iv only just started on it though so i still have a lot to learn ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/19 "2007-06-07T02:24:11Z")
( why on earth does it keep wanting mods to look at the posts, so far non of the posts they’v wanted to look at have been posted. (and as far as i know there was nothing going against forum rules in them..) god this is frustrating!! ) yea, your right, it does have traces of it. but its not somthing you need to keep in the back of your mind at all times in order to keep your cool. btw, iv only just started on it though so i still have a lot to learn ---
**Author:** ![charles198026](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@charles198026](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/charles198026)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2007, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005/20 "2007-06-07T03:25:02Z")
In response to phero’s comment: I don’t know what part of the world you come from, but where I live and grew up you would get slapped for suggesting a guy is a wuss. Maybe I would have responded better if you had chosen a better response. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-you-think-a-woman-should-be-treated/4005.md?page=2)