# How does Meo-Est differ from P86? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 4, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384 "2009-07-04T06:52:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/1 "2009-07-04T06:52:11Z")
So I’ve heard a lot of good things about Meo-EST. Anyone know how it differs from P86? I’d like to test both out to see their differences, but it’s currently out of stock. Soo, anyone try both? ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/2 "2009-07-04T16:32:07Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > So I’ve heard a lot of good things about Meo-EST. > > Anyone know how it differs from P86? > > I’d like to test both out to see their differences, but it’s currently out of stock. > > Soo, anyone try both? I’ve tried both. They are very different [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). P86 seems to effect visual perception. For me at least, it seems to allow more activation of golden and red retinal light receptors. Consequently things look more pink and golden. It gives things an airbrushed and glowing look. When I used a large dose of P86 I had some almost “speedy” effects and the visuals became rather distracting, almost hallucinogenic. For me, TAA and P86 were similar in their effects, except with TAA edges of things looked much more crisp, rather than airbrushed, and it gave more of the pure golden and white light enhancement and less of the reds. High dose of TAA also gave me nearly hallucinogenic and “speedy effects”. I had no other physical or emotional effects to either of these pheromones. Meo-Est, on the other hand is more of a pleasure modulator for me. It feels estrogenic in that it makes me feel more sensual and open to being touched. It kind of _slows down_ and intensifies physical sensation and makes everything feel more sensual. Meo-Est caused some crazy-real dreams for the first couple of weeks that I used it, also. But Meo-Est had no effect on my awake visual perception, and definitely no stimulatory effects that can be considered “speedy” at all. But Meo-Est does change my taste perception somewhat. I find that additives in foods become much more pronounced and distasteful when I’m wearing Meo-Est. Diane ---
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/3 "2009-07-05T15:04:44Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > I find that additives in foods become much more pronounced and distasteful when I’m wearing Meo-Est. > > Diane This is very interesting. I am finding something similiar. While wearing meo-est, already cut apples in a bag, and baby carrots have been causing an acidic/tinny like taste/sting when I eat them. Also, my tomato ranch vege crisps no longer taste that good. The sodiums are over powering and also cause a stinging-like taste. When wearing meo-est I have been noticing that a certain tone of game scent smell to be overpowering. It smells alot like fresh rosemary, and almost annoying. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/4 "2009-07-06T04:06:02Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > This is very interesting. I am finding something similiar. While wearing meo-est, already cut apples in a bag, and baby carrots have been causing an acidic/tinny like taste/sting when I eat them. Also, my tomato ranch vege crisps no longer taste that good. The sodiums are over powering and also cause a stinging-like taste. When wearing meo-est I have been noticing that a certain tone of game scent smell to be overpowering. It smells alot like fresh rosemary, and almost annoying. Hmm, that is very interesting info to know. I wonder if that only effects males or if it effects females too. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 4:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/5 "2009-07-06T04:08:44Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > I’ve tried both. They are very different pheromones. > > P86 seems to effect visual perception. For me at least, it seems to allow more activation of golden and red retinal light receptors. Consequently things look more pink and golden. It gives things an airbrushed and glowing look. When I used a large dose of P86 I had some almost “speedy” effects and the visuals became rather distracting, almost hallucinogenic. For me, TAA and P86 were similar in their effects, except with TAA edges of things looked much more crisp, rather than airbrushed, and it gave more of the pure golden and white light enhancement and less of the reds. High dose of TAA also gave me nearly hallucinogenic and “speedy effects”. I had no other physical or emotional effects to either of these pheromones. > > Meo-Est, on the other hand is more of a pleasure modulator for me. It feels estrogenic in that it makes me feel more sensual and open to being touched. It kind of _slows down_ and intensifies physical sensation and makes everything feel more sensual. Meo-Est caused some crazy-real dreams for the first couple of weeks that I used it, also. But Meo-Est had no effect on my awake visual perception, and definitely no stimulatory effects that can be considered “speedy” at all. But Meo-Est does change my taste perception somewhat. I find that additives in foods become much more pronounced and distasteful when I’m wearing Meo-Est. > > Diane Very interesting. Hmm…Looks like I’ll have to give Meo-EST a try. It’s the next experimone on my list ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/6 "2009-07-06T04:30:32Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > Very interesting. Hmm…Looks like I’ll have to give Meo-EST a try. It’s the next experimone on my list P78 is very similar to meo-est, but much more powerful at low dose. Meo-Est takes a lot (100+mcg) to get the target effects. Otherwise it is pretty undirected, although pleasant. Diane ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/7 "2009-07-06T04:42:49Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > P78 is very similar to meo-est, but much more powerful at low dose. Meo-Est takes a lot (100+mcg) to get the target effects. Otherwise it is pretty undirected, although pleasant. > > Diane When you say similar do you mean its sensual as well? I’ve yet to try it in a situation when things could be sensual, like kissing a guy. I did notice the P78 made me more passionate about things tho. Like I was more emotional ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 8:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/8 "2009-07-06T08:39:49Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > When you say similar do you mean its sensual as well? I’ve yet to try it in a situation when things could be sensual, like kissing a guy. I did notice the P78 made me more passionate about things tho. Like I was more emotional Yes, if you do an advanced search for Meo-Est and my name you will get a lot of information about how this molecule effects me, and how a small amount of certain modulator pheromones works with it. But basically, Meo-Est at 100+ mcg is very sensual. I always wear it in combination with Beta Androstenol, TAF, TAC, P102, and P103. Those other pheromones, most in very small amounts, ramp up and direct Meo-Est’s sensual nature to a large degree. Without those, Meo-Est always seems hungry for something undefined. I’ve never been able to wear it alone, because it seems to always demand something more. Diane ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 8:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/9 "2009-07-06T08:44:32Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > Yes, if you do an advanced search for Meo-Est and my name you will get a lot of information about how this molecule effects me, and how a small amount of certain modulator pheromones works with it. > > But basically, Meo-Est at 100+ mcg is very sensual. I always wear it in combination with Beta Androstenol, TAF, TAC, P102, and P103. Those other pheromones, most in very small amounts, ramp up and direct Meo-Est’s sensual nature to a large degree. Without those, Meo-Est always seems hungry for something undefined. I’ve never been able to wear it alone, because it seems to always demand something more. > > Diane Wow, that’s intense. So is it like that gnawing feeling you get when your bored but don’t know what to do? I’d probably pair this one with something sexual and see where that’d take me 😛 ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 9:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/10 "2009-07-06T09:06:15Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > Wow, that’s intense. So is it like that gnawing feeling you get when your bored but don’t know what to do? > > I’d probably pair this one with something sexual and see where that’d take me 😛 No. Meo-Est is never bored, just hungry for something. This is from my journal: > [@](#): > > Tonight Ima gonna try meo-est alone at 75 mcg sprayed to neck/chest. I notice a funny, kind of plastic taste in my mouth that lasts just a short time. That might be the alcohol evaporating. So far no yummy, sexy feel like I got from the last trial, but a sort of semi sensual slowing down of my thoughts and feelings. I also notice an almost unbearable desire to add more molecules: TAF, beta-nol, and/or cops. After 5 or 6 minutes I notice that the sensual feelings are increasing without the total YUM effects. Gonna wait 5 more minutes then add 50 more mcg meo-est. The “YUM” effects I referred to here are what the modulators do to meo-est. They include racing physical pleasure sensations down the legs, butterfly excitement, sensual arousal, etc. Oh, in addition to the Beta Androstenol, TAC, TAF, P102, and P103, another modulator that works nicely with Meo-Est is P79, if you like a roller coaster effect. Diane ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 9:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/11 "2009-07-06T09:13:37Z")
Hmm, I’ve yet to use P79 alone so I dont know abt those roller coaster effects. When I was wearing B-nol I noticed that I wanted to add more so I could feel good. It was making me craving kisses so much I was dying. Idk if it was similar to the hungering of Meo-EST, but it certainly got me hungering uncontrollably for kisses ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/12 "2009-07-06T14:34:51Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > Hmm, I’ve yet to use P79 alone so I dont know abt those roller coaster effects. > > When I was wearing B-nol I noticed that I wanted to add more so I could feel good. It was making me craving kisses so much I was dying. Idk if it was similar to the hungering of Meo-EST, but it certainly got me hungering uncontrollably for kisses I don’t know. Meo-Est doesn’t make me feel hungry for my guy. I have to be kind of careful playing with it, because sometimes it can feel so good that all I want to do is sit around and groove in my Meo-Est cloud. A little P80 kicks it in the right direction and makes the mix more desiring of my guy. But I do know what you mean about Betanol. That stuff is kickass in the right setting. ---
**Author:** ![Amy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/amy/32/444_2.png) [@Amy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Amy)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/13 "2009-07-07T00:03:43Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > So I’ve heard a lot of good things about Meo-EST. > > I’d like to test both out to see their differences, but it’s currently out of stock. Meo-EST is back in the stores!! Spread the word 😃 xoxo ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/14 "2009-07-07T00:08:46Z")
> [@Amy](#): > > Meo-EST is back in the stores!! Spread the word 😃 > > xoxo Cool, that is awesome! So, Amy… is Meo-Est 3-meo-1,3,5(10)9-estratetratraen-17-one or Meo-Est 3-meo-1,3,5(10)7-estratetratraen-17-one? Diane ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/15 "2009-07-07T00:10:26Z")
Geeze amy, you’re awesome senorita! 😃 the ladies are going to be thrilled! ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/16 "2009-07-07T01:31:41Z")
Wow! Thanks 😃 _runs off to store_ ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/17 "2009-07-07T05:41:35Z")
Lol hopefully there will be some in stock later 🙂 Amy you’re wonderful! All I gotta say to that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/18 "2009-07-08T02:43:52Z")
So I just placed an order for Meo-EST and some more TAC. My other bottle is almost out x.x Will be looking forward to its arrival and hopefully a free men’s product…hmm…lol ---
**Author:** ![lalalove](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c0e974/32.png) [@lalalove](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lalalove)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/19 "2009-07-09T20:13:04Z")
> [@Amy](#): > > Meo-EST is back in the stores!! Spread the word 😃 > > xoxo Was it only in stock for like a day? ☹ noo! Leave a bottle for meee!! lol ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384/20 "2009-07-09T21:30:03Z")
> [@lalalove](#): > > Was it only in stock for like a day? ☹ noo! Leave a bottle for meee!! lol aww girl you gotta be faster next time!! When it’s available grab it! 😃 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-does-meo-est-differ-from-p86/30384.md?page=2)