# How I transformed my looks from a 5/10 to a 10/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 29, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208 "2010-08-29T23:30:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/1 "2010-08-29T23:30:11Z")
This may or may not apply to you but hopefully you can find some good nuggets in here. It’s what worked for me. Me: 5’8.5, 125 pounds, 30 yrs old…not exactly a heart throbbing body…but in the last 2 years, I have gone through somewhat of a transformation…had more success professionally than I’ve ever had..been with more woman in those 2 years than the previous 10…things like that. I’m pretty happy where I am. So here goes. I’m going to focus on female attraction here: 1. CLOTHES - brand new, darker jeans, with some cool pattern. - amazingly cool tshirts (google cool tshirts and there are sights with a community of artists that design shirts and then VOTE on the top shirts - you’re gauranteed to have the coolest design and get compliments from girls) - black or lighter color blazer over the cool shirt - tallman shoes - these shoes make you 3 inches taller but hide the fact that they do.. So now I’m nearly 6’ with the way my hair is (height makes a BIG fucking difference to girls IMO). They are a bitch to get used to walking in though.. - hair - cool do - I put my hair back and up in the front with a little bit of product (while it is dry to not show the wet look) instead of the lame businessman like part to the side -cleanly shaven So now I’m looking hip and cool and unique and feel good about my style.. So let’s bump my looks from a 5/10 to a 7/10 1. CHARACTER - use the acronym “BETS” -Body Language - back straight up or leaning back - never needy and leaning in for approval -Eye contact - strong eye contact to the point where you don’t feel comfortable doing it…make OTHERS looks away from you. Stare people down. Fuck them. Be the alpha. -Tone - as in voice tone that communicates a happy, playful alpha male…not a fucking pushover beta bitch ass man. -Smile - radiate your smile! Depending on how well I can pull of the alpha personality (somedays at better than others)… I can usually get to 9/10 1. Have a couple of NORMAL but interesting things in your mind to talk about before entering a venue (if going out at night) - Examples - how was your summer? (be ready to talk about DHV travel related things such as Europe trips, road trips, beautiful beaches, waterfalls whatever……) - If you have 3 wishes what would they be? What you say matters but not early as much as the first 2 things…I’m always ready to open my mouth and ears…. Do it right and I’m a 10/10.…..I’m a hot fucking guy. J 1. [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) - ahh yes pheromones. Well I’ll leave that one to this forum. But again this is what works for me. What has gotten me MORE than just attraction 😉 😉 MX301, MX292/353, and IH, IO, IS… I’m already a 10/10 now so I don’t need pheromones. Why am I here? Because using pheromones makes up or compensates for the fuckups in the first 3 areas.. So with the good shit sprayed or oiled on to me…I’m now an 11/10! ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/2 "2010-08-30T19:22:37Z")
> [@giants52000](#): > > This may or may not apply to you but hopefully you can find some good nuggets in here. It’s what worked for me. > > Me: 5’8.5, 125 pounds, 30 yrs old…not exactly a heart throbbing body…but in the last 2 years, I have gone through somewhat of a transformation…had more success professionally than I’ve ever had..been with more woman in those 2 years than the previous 10…things like that. I’m pretty happy where I am. So here goes. I’m going to focus on female attraction here: > > 1. CLOTHES - brand new, darker jeans, with some cool pattern. > - amazingly cool tshirts (google cool tshirts and there are sights with a community of artists that design shirts and then VOTE on the top shirts - you’re gauranteed to have the coolest design and get compliments from girls) > - black or lighter color blazer over the cool shirt > - tallman shoes - these shoes make you 3 inches taller but hide the fact that they do.. So now I’m nearly 6’ with the way my hair is (height makes a BIG fucking difference to girls IMO). They are a bitch to get used to walking in though.. > - hair - cool do - I put my hair back and up in the front with a little bit of product (while it is dry to not show the wet look) instead of the lame businessman like part to the side > -cleanly shaven > > So now I’m looking hip and cool and unique and feel good about my style.. So let’s bump my looks from a 5/10 to a 7/10 > > 1. CHARACTER - use the acronym “BETS” > -Body Language - back straight up or leaning back - never needy and leaning in for approval > -Eye contact - strong eye contact to the point where you don’t feel comfortable doing it…make OTHERS looks away from you. Stare people down. Fuck them. Be the alpha. > -Tone - as in voice tone that communicates a happy, playful alpha male…not a fucking pushover beta bitch ass man. > -Smile - radiate your smile! > > Depending on how well I can pull of the alpha personality (somedays at better than others)… I can usually get to 9/10 > > 1. Have a couple of NORMAL but interesting things in your mind to talk about before entering a venue (if going out at night) > - Examples - how was your summer? (be ready to talk about DHV travel related things such as Europe trips, road trips, beautiful beaches, waterfalls whatever……) > - If you have 3 wishes what would they be? > > What you say matters but not early as much as the first 2 things…I’m always ready to open my mouth and ears…. Do it right and I’m a 10/10.…..I’m a hot fucking guy. J > > 1. Pheromones - ahh yes pheromones. Well I’ll leave that one to this forum. But again this is what works for me. What has gotten me MORE than just attraction 😉 😉 MX301, MX292/353, and IH, IO, IS… > > I’m already a 10/10 now so I don’t need pheromones. Why am I here? Because using pheromones makes up or compensates for the fuckups in the first 3 areas.. So with the good shit sprayed or oiled on to me…I’m now an 11/10! Fantastic post. reps, thanks, and I’m gonna give you a nomination because every guy who comes here looking for the ‘magic potion’ to get girls to fall for them or pay more attention to them should follow these guidelines to increase their overall attractiveness and create a strong sense of internal value. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/3 "2010-08-30T19:23:06Z")
Good post man, its funny some of the posts that get attention around here and multiple responses, and then someone puts in some effort into helping others other than sharing their latest “was this a hit?” story and no responses…LOL Thanks for sharing. Great post, great info in here. ---
**Author:** ![OneSexyMitch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/onesexymitch/32/2310_2.png) [@OneSexyMitch](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OneSexyMitch)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/4 "2010-08-30T19:31:35Z")
Well thought out, and helpful. I’ve been looking to change my look/style lately. But I haven’t really seen anything that got me thinking yet. I’m going to look into these shirts that you mention. As well, I have a black jacket and a blue blazer, but they really are not fitted correctly. I’m going to look into finding a really slick tailored blazer to go with stylish jeans and t-shirts. Thanks for the suggestions. ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/5 "2010-08-30T19:42:51Z")
> [@giants52000](#): > > This may or may not apply to you but hopefully you can find some good nuggets in here. It’s what worked for me. > > Me: 5’8.5, 125 pounds, 30 yrs old…not exactly a heart throbbing body…but in the last 2 years, I have gone through somewhat of a transformation…had more success professionally than I’ve ever had..been with more woman in those 2 years than the previous 10…things like that. I’m pretty happy where I am. So here goes. I’m going to focus on female attraction here: > > 1. CLOTHES - brand new, darker jeans, with some cool pattern. > - amazingly cool tshirts (google cool tshirts and there are sights with a community of artists that design shirts and then VOTE on the top shirts - you’re gauranteed to have the coolest design and get compliments from girls) > - black or lighter color blazer over the cool shirt > - tallman shoes - these shoes make you 3 inches taller but hide the fact that they do.. So now I’m nearly 6’ with the way my hair is (height makes a BIG fucking difference to girls IMO). They are a bitch to get used to walking in though.. > - hair - cool do - I put my hair back and up in the front with a little bit of product (while it is dry to not show the wet look) instead of the lame businessman like part to the side > -cleanly shaven > > So now I’m looking hip and cool and unique and feel good about my style.. So let’s bump my looks from a 5/10 to a 7/10 > > 1. CHARACTER - use the acronym “BETS” > -Body Language - back straight up or leaning back - never needy and leaning in for approval > -Eye contact - strong eye contact to the point where you don’t feel comfortable doing it…make OTHERS looks away from you. Stare people down. Fuck them. Be the alpha. > -Tone - as in voice tone that communicates a happy, playful alpha male…not a fucking pushover beta bitch ass man. > -Smile - radiate your smile! > > Depending on how well I can pull of the alpha personality (somedays at better than others)… I can usually get to 9/10 > > 1. Have a couple of NORMAL but interesting things in your mind to talk about before entering a venue (if going out at night) > - Examples - how was your summer? (be ready to talk about DHV travel related things such as Europe trips, road trips, beautiful beaches, waterfalls whatever……) > - If you have 3 wishes what would they be? > > What you say matters but not early as much as the first 2 things…I’m always ready to open my mouth and ears…. Do it right and I’m a 10/10.…..I’m a hot fucking guy. J > > 1. Pheromones - ahh yes pheromones. Well I’ll leave that one to this forum. But again this is what works for me. What has gotten me MORE than just attraction 😉 😉 MX301, MX292/353, and IH, IO, IS… > > I’m already a 10/10 now so I don’t need pheromones. Why am I here? Because using pheromones makes up or compensates for the fuckups in the first 3 areas.. So with the good shit sprayed or oiled on to me…I’m now an 11/10! Yea great job man! A lot of people know this to be true but still look for that one thing to push them over the edge easily, but it doesnt exist.. you have to work for it. Great job summing up a lot of the important parts. I’m going to work on the body language, straight back, and the staring down ones… I’ve done this before with great response but kind of forgot about that one 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![OneSexyMitch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/onesexymitch/32/2310_2.png) [@OneSexyMitch](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OneSexyMitch)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/6 "2010-08-30T19:46:33Z")
“Staring Down” I totally missed that. When I read “Eye Contact” I just skimmed over it. “Be the Alpha” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/7 "2010-08-30T20:51:46Z")
I have definitely made it a point when talking to females I’m pursuing to hold eye contact as long as I can and make them pull away. It shows intent and conveys a strong alpha vibe. My main target right now definitely gets a lil flustered when I do it to the point where I know it elicits very strong feelings inside of her. What’s funny is that with ‘soul gazing’ there are a bunch of schools of thought, and I’ve noticed when she looks at me she tends to focus on my right eye pretty intently. The traditional school of thought is based off the Celtic belief that the eyes are the windows to the soul.. and most notably the left eye. Any extended eye contact with someone will cause a strong emotional response if done right. You don’t have to probe with your eyes but holding direct eye contact with the same eye (right/right, left/left) and focusing behind the eye should allow you to create that connection. A lot of PUA guys use this in the Comfort stage to increase bonding and deeper rapport. I do this with my current lady friend because each day I do wish to deepen and intensify the bond we share. We have an amazing rapport already… lots of direct IOI (these do NOT stop once you are involved with someone), laughter, smiles, and just an amazing synergy between us when we’re together. This also helps to tie into the sexual side of things as well. Eye contact is really a respect thing. If you don’t hold eye contact it portrays you as being beta compared to alpha. I honestly have had issues with holding eye contact with people during conversation as I have self image issues, but over the years I’ve slowly learned to quell these and feel more comfortable with myself and my value as a person. I still have a bunch of things to accomplish including wardrobe/style updating and working on my physical presentation. I’m a big guy… 5’10, 250-260 lbs and my weight has always been a concern and has always caused me to look down upon myself. Upgrading my mental game did a lot for me. I’ve also been plagued by stupid girls who’ve helped to put me in bad mental places due to rejection. I don’t normally have an issue with outright rejection when I approach someone because I’m very selective of who I approach (which goes against all the PUA stuff, but I’m not a PUA). Even if it doesn’t become an attraction normally my demeanor and personality are enough to keep me from getting shot down in a negative way… but this also can lead to the ‘friend’ zone shit. I tend not to have problems with that as there are a lot of girls I’ve been interested in who I’ve become friends with that I’ve hooked up with or otherwise gotten romantically involved with. A short time ago a number of females in my dept mentioned the concept of dating “UP”, which I thought to be funny. Dating “UP” means that you date above your own social level or attractiveness level. Have you ever thought about how absolutely ugly some of the bigger PUA ‘gurus’ are? If you haven’t, you should go look up some pictures because there are many of them who should have no shot at the girls they get. I tend to date ‘UP’ as I have had a string of absolutely beautiful that I’ve involved myself with. I’m not saying I’m ugly at all as I get told how cute and adorable and amazing I am on a regular basis. These compliments come from a combination of females ranging from friends to ladies of interest to random people I meet in my social adventures. I feel that the pheromones have definitely helped for me to attract additional attention, add social presence, and definitely allowed me to see myself in a more positive light overall (thank you a314, p74, p75, p79, p83, p93, p106, and a whole shitload of other instant products, experimones, putatives, and mixes). But this is in combination with me upgrading my personal style, focusing on the increased social presence I’ve gained and acting accordingly/congruent, focusing on my health and well being (physical improvement) and more is what really made the difference. You’ll see time and time and time again the phrase “it’s 90% you, 10% mones”. Someone the other day said that it was 100% him and 10% mones, which means he was running at 110%. This is also somewhat related in the original post in this thread as well… make yourself a 10/10 and the mones can turn you into an 11/10. So now I’m going to STFU about myself and add a little bit more to the original post ideas. -CONFIDENCE!!! This is an absolute MUST HAVE in your day to day encounters with people. This is one of the most dominant/alpha traits you can hold. If you are confident in yourself (after following the steps in the original post to put yourself together properly) then there is almost NO door that you will have issues opening. This holds true for work/career, women/relationships, friendships, and anything else you can apply that confidence to. Walk with a swag but don’t be a pompous ass. There’s a difference between being confident and cocky. Knowing when to be a lil bit cocky can amplify your confidence internally and externally, but you have to know when and how to drop those kinda bombs on people. People who are too cocky come across as full of themselves and can easily be seen through by those who are truly confident/alphas. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/8 "2010-08-30T21:15:11Z")
Another thing you can do is for example when you’re having a 3 way convo. You, target and 1 other person. When target is speaking keep your eyes on her, when she stops, don’t stop watching her even tho’ the other person is now speaking. This gives her the feeling a bit like she’s being judged, not harshly mind you, and what this does is triggers some emotions in her, and they’re good ones. It causes her fight or flight instinct to sort of kick in, and she gets an emotional charge and will of course want that some more. I got this tip from the last David D interview with dating gurus and have used this in field and it works nicely. This was from the lady who wrote the book Updating - Leil Lowndes. She had some fabulous tips. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/9 "2010-08-30T21:16:17Z")
@ Reclipse - excellent post man…excellent post. ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/10 "2010-08-30T22:31:36Z")
Awesome thread. Im going to figure out what these ‘tallman’ shoes are. You and me are about the same height. ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/11 "2010-08-30T23:25:29Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > Another thing you can do is for example when you’re having a 3 way convo. You, target and 1 other person. > When target is speaking keep your eyes on her, when she stops, don’t stop watching her even tho’ the other person is now speaking. > This gives her the feeling a bit like she’s being judged, not harshly mind you, and what this does is triggers some emotions in her, and they’re good ones. It causes her fight or flight instinct to sort of kick in, and she gets an emotional charge and will of course want that some more. > > I got this tip from the last David D interview with dating gurus and have used this in field and it works nicely. This was from the lady who wrote the book Updating - Leil Lowndes. She had some fabulous tips. This also helps to show your target that your focus is on her instead of whoever is speaking. This show of attention and focus on a person can be alluring and also alarming. You must do it in a subtle but noticeable way. Don’t turn your head completely away from the person that’s speaking as that is rude. Keeping your head slightly turned towards the speaker while focusing your eyes on the target is a good way to not alienate anyone in the group and still show your focus is on the target. Some people have trouble focusing their visual attention somewhere and their audible focus elsewhere. With some practice this can definitely be done… you just need to be able to separate the 2. Practice makes perfect! For any of you who have doubts about their inner game or confidence, I highly suggest Christian Hudson’s “Unbreakable” program. This is a series of 12-13 videos on the website that talk about a lot of things that plague people who lack confidence in themselves to be able to attract 9’s and 10’s. The program is somewhat simple in that it goes over a lot of things that we should know already, but have issues applying to our daily lives. I am actually re-watching the entire program and taking notes this time around so I can review my own actions and demeanor so I too can become ‘Unbreakable’. If you’re interested in the program check it out at [The Social Man](http://www.thesocialman.com). Christian and Nick are the 2 main people behind the program and their videos are full of awesome info. I do not really consider them to be PUA, but more lifestyle coaches who provide information how you can tighten up your inner game and feel really amazing about yourself. ---
**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/12 "2010-08-31T00:27:11Z")
Great info everyone! People have PMed me about some clothing companies: 1. This is the tshirt place that has an active forum like AD where people vote on the best designs. Really cool: [Cool T-Shirts DesignByHumans | Buy T Shirts Graphic T-Shirts Cool Tees](http://www.designbyhumans.com/) 2. Here is tallman shoe site: [Height Increasing Elevator Shoes for Man’s tall - Tallmenshoes.com](http://www.tallmenshoes.com/) ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/13 "2010-08-31T00:31:26Z")
Thx guys for sharing the link. I’m definitely going to look into the unbreakable program when I get finished with some other things I’m working on. And as for the shoes, LOL yeah I always buy some Doc’s or something padded on the heels, being 5’ 6 1/2 I needs all the help I can get. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/14 "2010-08-31T01:00:07Z")
> [@Bolkie](#): > > Awesome thread. Im going to figure out what these ‘tallman’ shoes are. You and me are about the same height. You can get one of the 3 inch boots from Sketchers. They look pretty trendy too; it will cost you ~ 85 to 100$ though ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/15 "2010-08-31T03:55:20Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > Thx guys for sharing the link. > I’m definitely going to look into the unbreakable program when I get finished with some other things I’m working on. > > And as for the shoes, LOL yeah I always buy some Doc’s or something padded on the heels, being 5’ 6 1/2 I needs all the help I can get. 🙂 The unbreakable program is solid. Actually… after I get done doing dinner I think I might dig into a video or 2 and get some more reinforcement back into my head. Today was kinda off (didn’t medicate) and it put me in a not so unbreakable thought process haha. ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/16 "2010-08-31T20:44:46Z")
A few other things that can make you more attractive are having a decent physique. Start working out and get in shape if you are not already in shape. Confidence also helps just. When you walk, walk as if someone just poured ice cold water down your back with your shoulders straight back,standing upright. And when you are talking to a girl if you offend her with one of your personal views or opinions never apologize. Don’t ever apologize for your beliefs and opinions. If a girl gets pissed at you say “I am sorry you feel that way”. It is a way of apologizing without handing the girl your man card. Having a easy-going personality and being laid back as well helps. Have a busy life, make it seem like you have something to offer. When you talk with a girl keep your hands out of your pockets, do not touch your face, and do not put your drink in front of your face.All these things are signs of uncertainty and doubt. Dominant the conversation without being a complete and total jerk. Do everything you are supposed to in order to open her. Push-Pull you know all the basics. Negging etc. But probably the biggest factor is confidence. If you have any doubt in your mind when you are approaching a girl she can sense it. Have the I don’t give a shit mentality and you can succeed with flying colors. Girls are drawn to the guys who do not care about other people’s opinions. They like guys that are direct in their intentions and do not shit around the bush. And remember the nice guy bull gets you know where except in the friendzone. Which is just a waste of time. Things to take away: Be confident Have good posture Stay well groomed shave,shower, workout etc And never apologize for who you are Oh and everything from Christian Hudson is good. Also check out Bobby Rios stuff ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/17 "2010-08-31T23:18:40Z")
> [@Jabez](#): > > Oh and everything from Christian Hudson is good. Also check out Bobby Rios stuff Bobby’s emails and programs are really solid as well. I’ve gotten lots of great info from the daily emails. ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-i-transformed-my-looks-from-a-5-10-to-a-10-10/41208/18 "2010-09-01T00:52:20Z")
Carlos Xuma is good too. Mystery or Niel Strauss too