# How is Spaceland? Too strong, just right, not enough? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 16, 2006, 12:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147 "2006-02-16T00:56:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 12:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/1 "2006-02-16T00:56:54Z")
How do you guys the potency and social effects of the test product Spaceland (mostly alpha nol, 50mcg per spray)? Also, how long do the effects last on most of you? This doesn’t use our standard orange package, instead using a natural essential oil blend which seems to last longer. I’m wondering what you guys of think of this, too. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 2:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/2 "2006-02-16T02:36:08Z")
> [@](#): > > This doesn’t use our standard orange package, instead using a natural essential oil blend which seems to last longer. I’m wondering what you guys of think of this, too. is there anyway that the orange scent can be added in to the natural essential oil blend..or would that be too much fixative…i just really like the scent. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 3:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/3 "2006-02-16T03:11:59Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > is there anyway that the orange scent can be added in to the natural essential oil blend..or would that be too much fixative…i just really like the scent. Yes, however, the anosmic (meaning, most people can’t smell it) musk in the orange isn’t anosmic anymore when you mix it with most EOs. It comes right out. You have Spaceland, though? How do you like it? ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/4 "2006-02-16T03:14:31Z")
no, but I im getting Instant Openess tomorrow…I just wanted to point out I really like the neroli scent in most of the Instant line. I didn’t know if it could be kept while also extending the duration of effects. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 3:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/5 "2006-02-16T03:18:10Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > no, but I im getting Instant Openess tomorrow…I just wanted to point out I really like the neroli scent in most of the Instant line. I didn’t know if it could be kept while also extending the duration of effects. It’s just tough to mix it with EOs or herbal mixtures. You usually get a scent clash. ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/6 "2006-02-16T03:19:53Z")
I see…well in that case the products effectiveness is more important. ---
**Author:** ![TaoistBiker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/taoistbiker/32/1117_2.png) [@TaoistBiker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TaoistBiker)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 11:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/7 "2006-02-22T23:34:16Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > How do you guys the potency and social effects of the test product Spaceland (mostly alpha nol, 50mcg per spray)? This has been a fun “party time” product - I had stopped going out to lunch with people at work… I had been promoted into managing them and having me around was just too different once I had been promoted. This _really_ can break the ice. Much stronger and maybe no one goes back to work. 🙄 It also is strong enough to have mellowing effects on groups of kids. (I am active at my daughters elementary school; meaning that I am regularly involved in classroom activities.) Some of the kids in that age group have incredible and somewhat agressive energies. > [@MHarris](#): > > Also, how long do the effects last on most of you? It’s hard to tell - once the ice is broken in a group the dynamics can take a life of their own. I tend to be “up but focused” - kind of wired - most of the time by nature so it can be hard for me to tell when anol products wear off. > [@MHarris](#): > > This doesn’t use our standard orange package, instead using a natural essential oil blend which seems to last longer. I’m wondering what you guys of think of this, too. I like both. I tend to want long lasting even diffusion in anol/friendly products and more intense/shorter half-life diffusions in sexual products. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/8 "2006-02-23T01:29:53Z")
hey this thread has been here for a week and i never even knew it existed. i don’t think Spaceland is too strong, it is what it is and what it was intended to be. i use a good full spray of this almost anytime i use -none. i also have a bottle of your 30mcg alpha nol when i’m not using -none or at most just a dab. ---
**Author:** ![Pongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Pongo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pongo)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 8:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/9 "2006-02-23T08:37:33Z")
I think this is a [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) well suited to high dose use - as far as how long it lasts I really think 2.5 hrs is about it due to the base, I used 3 sprays on Valentines day and it made some of the people at work act like they were on crack “lots of laughing”. I use it in conjunction with my A1/NPA mix because the A1 makes me feel like crap without it. ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 1:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/10 "2006-02-23T13:55:28Z")
Pongo if you don’t have [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) you really should get some..that stuff makes you feel really good nearly instantaneously…probably even more so than spaceland makes you feel. not to mention it compliments any mix. ---
**Author:** ![Aurelie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aurelie/32/1914_2.png) [@Aurelie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aurelie)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/11 "2006-02-23T23:08:55Z")
I like Spaceland. Without reading the other posts too much (I didn’t want to be influenced) I can report this. It seems to work well at steering the mood in the right direction if there is a high level of energy already present. I’ve used it with my kids. The are quite hyper-active. Not physically in the house, but real chatter-bugs and prone to fighting with each other. One spray of Spaceland seems to put them in a much more “compliant” mood. Seems to settle them down. I once tried it on my husband. But we were just quietly watching TV. I used three sprays. Maybe an OD? Later that evening, no matter what else I sprayed on, he just seemed ready to go to sleep. Michael, do you think that was a NOL OD? Is there such a thing? What would the consequences of a NOL OD be? As far as the concentration is concerned. I really don’t know. 50 mcg just sounds like a nice round number. I’m happy with it. My next experiment will be to try 1 spray when he is “agitated” (to put it kindly). 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/12 "2006-02-28T23:21:26Z")
> [@Aurelie](#): > > I like Spaceland. Without reading the other posts too much (I didn’t want to be influenced) I can report this. > > It seems to work well at steering the mood in the right direction if there is a high level of energy already present. > > I’ve used it with my kids. The are quite hyper-active. Not physically in the house, but real chatter-bugs and prone to fighting with each other. One spray of Spaceland seems to put them in a much more “compliant” mood. Seems to settle them down. Good results with the kids. > [@](#): > > I once tried it on my husband. But we were just quietly watching TV. I used three sprays. Maybe an OD? Later that evening, no matter what else I sprayed on, he just seemed ready to go to sleep. > Michael, do you think that was a NOL OD? Is there such a thing? What would the consequences of a NOL OD be? You can OD on anything, including water. Almost everything in nature follows a u-shape curve. There’s too little, there’s a sweet spot, and there’s too much. Too much can express itself as excitement _or_ sleepiness. At the end of the day, when his neurotransmitters (brain juice) are running low, I’d say you’re more likely to get sleepiness. I tend to find 30 to 100mcg or so of ANOL pretty good. 150mcg (3 sprays of Spaceland) may have been too much. > [@](#): > > As far as the concentration is concerned. I really don’t know. 50 mcg just sounds like a nice round number. I’m happy with it. > > My next experiment will be to try 1 spray when he is “agitated” (to put it kindly). 😉 1 to 2 sprays should sooth him just fine. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 11:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/13 "2006-03-01T11:47:00Z")
one of my earlier tests with 2 sprays Spaceland 3 drops -none had this girl non stop giggling but also practically humping my leg while we were hugging. the non stop giggling is fine, until the clothes come off.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 12:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/14 "2006-03-01T12:09:43Z")
> [@josef](#): > > one of my earlier tests with 2 sprays Spaceland 3 drops -none had this girl non stop giggling but also practically humping my leg while we were hugging. How many micrograms of androstenone was that? > [@josef](#): > > the non stop giggling is fine, until the clothes come off.🙂 It’s all fun and games until someone gets humped… _… then it’s just fun!_ _😉_ ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/15 "2006-03-01T18:01:23Z")
I think Josef used/uses NPA, which came out to your figures to be around 18-24mcg anone with 3 drops…i could be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/16 "2006-03-02T00:21:10Z")
oh man you’re going to ask me to remember that far back, lol. that test was 3 drops NPA, drops as in drops onto a finger and not dabs. as fast as that stuff runs down my finger though it’s hard to tell how much i was wearing. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 12:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/17 "2006-03-02T00:29:34Z")
> [@josef](#): > > oh man you’re going to ask me to remember that far back, lol. > > that test was 3 drops NPA, drops as in drops onto a finger and not dabs. That’s a lot, I’d reckon. How’s that work for you without the Spaceland? > [@josef](#): > > as fast as that stuff runs down my finger though it’s hard to tell how much i was wearing. But you remember that you definitely _weren_’t naked? You were wearing at least a little something? Let me ask you… does the amount of clothing or style (I understand you are fond of Chaps), seem to affect your results? ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/18 "2006-03-02T01:22:58Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > That’s a lot, I’d reckon. How’s that work for you without the Spaceland? well i’ve learned not to even bother with -none unless i’m wearing A314 or Spaceland. -none sticks out on me like a hippy at a republican convention. > [@MHarris](#): > > But you remember that you definitely _weren_’t naked? You were wearing at least a little something? i charge 4.99 per minute for that information. > [@MHarris](#): > > Let me ask you… does the amount of clothing or style (I understand you are fond of Chaps), seem to affect your results? who told you about chaps? that was supposed to be my secret! ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/19 "2006-03-02T01:38:24Z")
> [@josef](#): > > well i’ve learned not to even bother with -none unless i’m wearing A314 or Spaceland. -none sticks out on me like a hippy at a republican convention. Now this is interesting. You’ve said that you have soft masculine features and could even be called a “pretty boy”. You’d think androstenone would bring something new to the table, and give you a more complete, “well rounded” presence. ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2006, 1:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147/20 "2006-03-02T01:52:42Z")
I know I get less attention with higher amounts of Anone..like women are intimidated by me. I’d say I’m cross between a pretty boy and masculine. I pull off the masculine vibe by not shaving for 3-4 days. I can grow a beard if i let it go. When I think of a pretty boy I think of a guy that has little to no facial hair. with refined features rather than prominent masculine features. yet, I have symetrical refined features rather than any prominent masculine ones. I also have a deep voice, which helps make up for the lack of masculine facial features. A couple octaves deeper and I’d sound like michael clark dunken(the actor) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-is-spaceland-too-strong-just-right-not-enough/147.md?page=2)