# How long does it take your body to recharge itself of it's own natural pheromones? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 15, 2010, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620 "2010-05-15T06:07:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RedDam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@RedDam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDam)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/1 "2010-05-15T06:07:56Z")
Hi guys, I heard that we produce our own [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) but we lose it due to frequent showers and other factors. So I was wondering, after taking a shower, how long does it take for the body to replenish itself of its own natural pheromones? Also, besides frequent bathing, what are other factors that diminish the modern man’s natural pheromones? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 6:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/2 "2010-05-15T06:20:56Z")
having testosterone levels about 50% of what the average was 50 years ago might be a factor. ---
**Author:** ![RedDam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@RedDam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDam)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 6:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/3 "2010-05-15T06:24:32Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > having testosterone levels about 50% of what the average was 50 years ago might be a factor. Oh really? That’s really interesting, do you know a link for that report? ---
**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 6:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/4 "2010-05-15T06:39:10Z")
> [@RedDam](#): > > Also, besides frequent bathing, what are other factors that diminish the modern man’s natural pheromones? - Diet (bad=less), - Exercise (more=more) - Stress (more=less, or at least the wrong ones) - Age (older=less testosterone) ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/5 "2010-05-15T06:46:17Z")
> [@RedDam](#): > > Oh really? That’s really interesting, do you know a link for that report? My bad, it seems that TECHNICALLY the 50% number was referring to sperm counts. However that IS related in many ways directly to test levels which HAVE been shown to be declining substantially by numbers almost as disturbing. [http://www.sustainer.org/dhm\_archive/index.php?display\_article=vn630spermed](http://www.sustainer.org/dhm_archive/index.php?display_article=vn630spermed) [The Doctor’s Office - WSJ.com](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120052504892095691.html) [Testosterone levels falling 1% every year | MaleHealth](http://www.malehealth.co.uk/node/19208) [TMUSCLE.com | Question of Strength: Vol 33](http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/question_of_strength_33) [Health News for Men](http://www.takebackyourballs.net/ArchivesYear2007/PeakTestosterone.html) Essentially a good amount of our food additives contain phytoestrogens, botanical extracts that exhibit estrogen like properties when introduced to the body. This coupled with a sedentary lifestyle, an obesity level that says some 2 out of three men have weight problems, daily exposure to carcinogens and other chemicals that might not be estrogenic but are harmful to the testes none the less. Hell even wearing your cell phone on your hip exposes your balls to low levels of electromagnetic radiation for hours a day for…well how long if your cell phone contract? Most pheromones are produced by the metabolizing of testosterone and those metabolites being secreted by the body through sweat and urine. If out test levels are down by 20%, or possibly lower than a mere 2 generations ago it’s no wonder we need to supplement our pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 7:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/6 "2010-05-15T07:19:14Z")
Many male mones are produced by skin bacteria feeding on waste and other materials in our sweat. The most common moan on male skin is A1. Your fresh sweat after a workout is full of A1. Of course A1 is a metabolite of testosterone. When A1 is acted upon by skin bacteria it breaks down to androstenol which, in turn, breaks down to androstenone. When we bathe frequently the poor bacteria have little food to eat, hence poor mone production in squeaky clean men. If not for bacteria men would be great around PMSing women but not get much nookie later… Androsterone is produced in the liver when testosterone is metabolized and exits the body via urine. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/7 "2010-05-15T07:26:58Z")
You know more about this than I do Gegogi, is the bacterial consumption of A1 the only means of producing nols and none? They aren’t produced by any other mechanism? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/8 "2010-05-15T09:59:17Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > You know more about this than I do Gegogi, is the bacterial consumption of A1 the only means of producing nols and none? They aren’t produced by any other mechanism? Anol is produced in human sweat glands in small amounts. So it is found in the body we just dont secrete it as much as others. Anone is a steriod metabolised from testosterone. You find it in urine and sweat. Many pheromones are derived from hormones at different points of metabolizing in the body. So one derives from another A small amount of conversion can occur if bacteria continues the metabolization process outside the body but these pheromones/hormones exist in the body independently as well and are secreted in our body fluids. [ScienceDirect - The Journal of Steroid Biochemistry and Molecular Biology : Microbial pathways leading to steroidal malodour in the axilla](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T8X-49P82PS-2&_user=10&_coverDate=10%2F31%2F2003&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1335965040&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=9c7d88eb28c0caeaf763fa52611bd092) [ScienceDirect - The Journal of Steroid Biochemistry and Molecular Biology : Comparison of 16-Androstene steroid concentrations in sterile apocrine sweat and axillary secretions: Interconversions of 16-Androstenes by the axillary microflora—a m](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T8X-47PR27K-75&_user=10&_coverDate=03%2F31%2F1994&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1335966356&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=fe3536b5a7e0a414b6f9dccc93081bf4) [Comparison of 16-androstene steroid concentrations… [J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. 1994] - PubMed result](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8142319?dopt=Abstract) This will help a you understand more about the biosynthesis pathways. > [@question: pheromone biosynthesis pathways](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-pheromone-biosynthesis-pathways/31828): > > Warning: Newbie questions here. I’m wondering if there is available a diagram that maps out how the body synthesizes various [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). Specifically, something that shows things like “testosterone breaks down in the body into this, and this is excreted onto the skin, where this bacteria changes it into this”, etc… I’m interested in this for two reasons. First, it might give clues as to why certain pheromones have certain effects. For example, a pheromone that is produced by a process that … > [@](#): > > Also, besides frequent bathing, what are other factors that diminish the modern man’s natural pheromones? Hygiene is the main culprit. While pheromones are found in saliva and urine as well as sweat humans dont go around smelling other humans urine, butts or licking each other like other mammals do. That is what they are doing when you see a animal sniffing another animals butt or where they peed. They are picking up on information from the pheromones. Anywhoo… while race age diet etc etc can effect the amount you make the only thing that effects the amount you have on your body is hygiene. Soap deodorant frequent showering tooth paste antiperspirant these effect whats naturally on the skin. How quickly you replenish them is probably different for everyone depending on the speed of metabolism. Men probably replenish faster then women though. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/9 "2010-05-15T20:24:19Z")
> [@](#): > > Tisha writes, while pheromones are found in saliva and urine as well as sweat humans dont go around smelling other humans urine, butts or licking each other like other mammals do. Well, speak for yourself! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/10 "2010-05-15T21:19:34Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Well, speak for yourself! Snort, Well Gegogi you know I have a crush on you. I could be tempted to lick you 😉 ---
**Author:** ![seekingadvice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@seekingadvice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seekingadvice)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/11 "2010-05-15T21:35:18Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Many male mones are produced by skin bacteria feeding on waste and other materials in our sweat. The most common moan on male skin is A1. Your fresh sweat after a workout is full of A1. Of course A1 is a metabolite of testosterone. When A1 is acted upon by skin bacteria it breaks down to androstenol which, in turn, breaks down to androstenone. When we bathe frequently the poor bacteria have little food to eat, hence poor mone production in squeaky clean men. If not for bacteria men would be great around PMSing women but not get much nookie later… Hmm, I wonder how this would turn out, workout HARD for, let’s say, 10-15 minutes. Apply some cover up scent for that nasty smelling BO enhancing sweat and WALA! you got some instant A1 😛 Add a spray of TUTH and hit the club to this and…$@(&!!🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 1:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/12 "2010-05-16T01:11:55Z")
The A1 will soon convert to anone if you’re hot 'n sweaty so you may not need TUTH. ---
**Author:** ![phillykid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@phillykid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phillykid)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/13 "2010-05-16T14:40:17Z")
what’s a first order approximation on the amount naturally produced (in mcg)? ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/14 "2010-05-16T15:07:11Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > The A1 will soon convert to anone if you’re hot 'n sweaty so you may not need TUTH. yeah, but unless he is Shaq or Dwight Howard, I doubt this dude is producing 5mcg + of anone to diffuse. Just spray yourself like 2x AMMO 😃 ---
**Author:** ![RedDam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@RedDam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDam)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/15 "2010-05-16T19:26:22Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > yeah, but unless he is Shaq or Dwight Howard, I doubt this dude is producing 5mcg + of anone to diffuse. Just spray yourself like 2x AMMO 😃 What does that mean? bigger people produce more anone? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/16 "2010-05-16T19:30:41Z")
He means big, athletic and black ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/17 "2010-05-17T00:44:46Z")
> [@RedDam](#): > > What does that mean? bigger people produce more anone? Fit Muscular men have higher levels of testosterone therefore higher pheromone output. Race is a small factor as with certain pheromones. Now big as in a high ratio of body fat to muscle. Depending on there health and age they make less. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![RedDam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@RedDam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDam)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/18 "2010-05-18T06:18:21Z")
Why do women need [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/)? Are women’s estrogen levels going down as well or is the case mostly where a lot of their pheromones get washed away in showers? ---
**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 7:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/19 "2010-05-18T07:42:58Z")
> [@RedDam](#): > > Why do women need pheromone products? Are women’s estrogen levels going down as well or is the case mostly where a lot of their pheromones get washed away in showers? Some factors that reduce a woman’s natural scent. - Frequent washing - Not enough body hair left to trap pheromones (a tendency to remove most body hair) - A _general_ tendency to perceive any intimate smells as yukky and hence cover them up - Stress - Bad diet - The Pill - An in-built compulsion to hide ovulation and hence reduce any signals that would give the game away, like natural scents (this is a fairly recent scientific hypothesis rather than a fact, but it’s a strong one) I love the way women smell. Sadly a lot of them don’t and have been conditioned to think that smelling like themselves is “bad”. ---
**Author:** ![RedDam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@RedDam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDam)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/20 "2010-05-18T07:58:14Z")
> [@oom](#): > > Some factors that reduce a woman’s natural scent. > > - Frequent washing > - Not enough body hair left to trap pheromones (a tendency to remove most body hair) > - A _general_ tendency to perceive any intimate smells as yukky and hence cover them up > - Stress > - Bad diet > - The Pill > - An in-built compulsion to hide ovulation and hence reduce any signals that would give the game away, like natural scents (this is a fairly recent scientific hypothesis rather than a fact, but it’s a strong one) > > I love the way women smell. Sadly a lot of them don’t and have been conditioned to think that smelling like themselves is “bad”. Cool. Do you know a link to the last one about the recent scientific hypothesis regarding women’s compulsion to hide ovulation? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620.md?page=2)