# How long does it take your body to recharge itself of it's own natural pheromones? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 15, 2010, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620 "2010-05-15T06:07:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 8:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/21 "2010-05-18T08:54:58Z")
> [@](#): > > Not enough body hair left to trap pheromones (a tendency to remove most body hair) Some races have almost no body hair outside of their heads. My Thai GF only had 3 or 4 poobs and no pit or leg hair whatsoever (no shaving or removal–all natural). ---
**Author:** ![21st-evo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/b77776/32.png) [@21st-evo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/21st-evo)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 9:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/22 "2010-05-18T09:45:21Z")
I’m more curious about the quantity of natural pheromones of an average man vs a spray/droplet. For example, could 1 spray be 1 day of natural production? ---
**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 1:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/23 "2010-05-18T13:07:52Z")
> [@RedDam](#): > > Cool. Do you know a link to the last one about the recent scientific hypothesis regarding women’s compulsion to hide ovulation? **Is Human Ovulation Concealed? Evidence From Conception Beliefs in a Hunter-Gatherer Society** Frank W. Marlowe, Ph.D. Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 33, No. 5, October 2004, pp. 427–432 (c)2004) [http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~hbe-lab/acrobatfiles/is%20ovulation%20concealed.pdf](http://www.fas.harvard.edu/%7Ehbe-lab/acrobatfiles/is%20ovulation%20concealed.pdf) My anecdotal opinion is that yes, ovulation is a signal that most of the women I’ve met try to hide (either consciously or unconsciously). Women dress more revealingly when ovulating[1] and their skin tone and scent changes. I have a sensitive eye/nose for these things and used to be able to detect at what part of her cycle a girl was. It was a infamous party-trick of mine: I won’t go into too much detail here but it involves sniffing the nape of the neck as well as closely watching skin-tone and posture over time. In most cases I got it right (over 70% I’d say). If you know what to look for, it’s obvious: some girls more than others. But it does take practice. _[1] Durante, K.M., Li, N.P. & Haselton, M.G. (2008). Changes in women’s choice of dress across the ovulatory cycle: Naturalistic and laboratory task-based evidence. Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, Vol 34: 1451-1460._ ---
**Author:** ![RedDam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@RedDam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDam)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/24 "2010-05-18T15:31:30Z")
> [@oom](#): > > **Is Human Ovulation Concealed? Evidence From Conception Beliefs in a Hunter-Gatherer Society** > Frank W. Marlowe, Ph.D. > Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 33, No. 5, October 2004, pp. 427–432 (c)2004) > > [http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~hbe-lab/acrobatfiles/is%20ovulation%20concealed.pdf](http://www.fas.harvard.edu/%7Ehbe-lab/acrobatfiles/is%20ovulation%20concealed.pdf) > My anecdotal opinion is that yes, ovulation is a signal that most of the women I’ve met try to hide (either consciously or unconsciously). > > Women dress more revealingly when ovulating[1] and their skin tone and scent changes. I have a sensitive eye/nose for these things and used to be able to detect at what part of her cycle a girl was. It was a infamous party-trick of mine: I won’t go into too much detail here but it involves sniffing the nape of the neck as well as closely watching skin-tone and posture over time. > > In most cases I got it right (over 70% I’d say). If you know what to look for, it’s obvious: some girls more than others. But it does take practice. > > _[1] Durante, K.M., Li, N.P. & Haselton, M.G. (2008). Changes in women’s choice of dress across the ovulatory cycle: Naturalistic and laboratory task-based evidence. Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, Vol 34: 1451-1460._ Wow that’s really interesting. What are you supposed to look for? What kind of smell, skin-tone and posture give it away? And do you ask the girl if you can smell her neck or do you just get close enough so you can? ---
**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/25 "2010-05-18T16:24:48Z")
> [@RedDam](#): > > Wow that’s really interesting. > What are you supposed to look for? What kind of smell, skin-tone and posture give it away? > And do you ask the girl if you can smell her neck or do you just get close enough so you can? You WILL be able to work it out for yourself if you **pay attention**. The important thing is to establish a baseline, if you spend enough time with girls you’ll work out when a period starts (moodiness, bailing out of physical activities, complaining of cramps/ache, taking bag to the rest-room when it usually doesn’t happen, dressing for comfort rather than visual effect, etc) and so on… it’s not rocket science. Once you’ve established this anchor point then **approximately** 12-16 days from then you’ll notice some changes in behavior and appearance, this is where you need to pay attention. Those changes should be clear once you’re looking out for them: the changes might include skin-tone changes (specifically the color of cheeks, throat) and the hormone changes can also change the appearance of skin texture, making it look smoother. Posture will be more ‘open’, generally standing up straighter with chest out. The smell is simple. Ovulating girls smell like a woman to me, it’s hard to describe any other way. Not sexual, but definitely feminine. Getting to smell their neck has to be part of a game. Before I became aware of my party-trick of guessing ovulation (and became slightly infamous because of it) I used to practice by _pretending_ to guess age by sniffing the nape of the neck. It was just a game, but the differences in scent were noticeable. The trick was to guess the age wrongly every time (otherwise you wouldn’t be able to have another go a week or two later). Eventually you’ll notice “hold on, this smells more… _interesting_ than last time”. 🙂 Finally, and this is almost too obvious to state, ovulating girls _act differently_ around boys. Spend enough time being a slightly-detached observer in a social group and the behavioral changes become clear as day. Life’s a game. Pay attention and it becomes fun. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/26 "2010-05-18T17:29:54Z")
You must live in an area where oral contraception isn’t too popular. Everybody on the friggen pill… ---
**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/27 "2010-05-18T19:38:46Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > You must live in an area where oral contraception isn’t too popular. Everybody on the friggen pill… Yeah, that kind of screws things up. There’s no ovulation ergo there’s nothing significant to detect. I can still detect some changes (and there certainly are cyclical mood changes even on the pill) but they’re much more subtle and to be honest, I probably miss most of the cues. The presence of a different but continuing hormonal cycle even when on the pill means that _something_ might be noticeable.**_Ovulatory cycle effects on tip earnings by lap dancers:_ _economic evidence for human estrus?_** _Geoffrey Miller⁎, Joshua M. Tybur, Brent D. Jordan Department of Psychology, University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM 87131, USA_ ---
**Author:** ![RedDam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@RedDam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDam)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/28 "2010-05-18T22:10:15Z")
Exactly how long does ovulation last? ---
**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/29 "2010-05-19T14:18:12Z")
> [@RedDam](#): > > Exactly how long does ovulation last? About [this much](http://www.google.com/search?q=how+long+does+ovulation+last) ---
**Author:** ![RedDam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@RedDam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RedDam)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 10:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/30 "2010-05-19T22:48:38Z")
Well I googled it and I was still unclear on that so I just asked here. From the articles it sounded like ovulation only lasts 24-48 hours after about 14 days in the cycle. (Assuming a 28 day cycle.) One article even said the ovulation cycle was as short as 12-24 hours. But then I asked a girl and she said ovulation lasts 4-6 days after the 14th day in the cycle. So I guess a better question is, how large is the time window where one can detect ovulation from physical observations? Is it only noticeable in a 12-48 hour window? Or for up to 4-6 days? ---
**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/31 "2010-05-20T14:03:54Z")
> [@RedDam](#): > > Or for up to 4-6 days? That one. Sometimes longer. It’s not a science, it’s an art. If you’re looking for hard numbers for something so organic, human and ephemeral, you’ll never spot something as subtle as ovulation. Start looking, stop counting. ---
**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 3:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620/32 "2010-05-20T15:28:18Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > You must live in an area where oral contraception isn’t too popular. Everybody on the friggen pill… BTW: It depends on the type of pill the girl is taking. With _progestin-only_ pills they might still ovulate about 50% of the time (but the thickening of the lining and other effects of the pill will prevent fertilization). I’ve said it in another post but it’s worth repeating: girls on the pill will still exhibit hormonal (and hence moodiness/fertility-feeling) cycles. Oom. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-does-it-take-your-body-to-recharge-itself-of-its-own-natural-pheromones/38620.md?page=1)