# How much none is too much none? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 15, 2012, 10:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407 "2012-08-15T10:19:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DevilJin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/258eb7/32.png) [@DevilJin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DevilJin)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 10:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407/1 "2012-08-15T10:19:22Z")
I’ve read many people say that none based products like TUTH can irritate and have the potential to backfire majorly. Now I’ve been using a combo of 1xammo, 2xTUTH, 15mcg of P74, 3xIS and 50mcg of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) with a girl whose only 20 and I’ve had good success. Now she’s told me openly that she’s usually slightly wet around me with that combo. I want her to get even hornier, so we can actually get down to business 😛 Now my question is, could I use a combo of 3xTUTH, 15mcg of P74, 3xIS and 50mcg of P83? Are the dosages of P74 and IS enough of a buffer? Or is that ODing on none? I’m aware that ammo is already buffered, that’s why I ask this question. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 10:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407/2 "2012-08-15T10:44:27Z")
Try it and see - that really is the only way. Nobody can say how much is too much with absolute certainty as that depends on both your body chemistry and the particular responses of the subject. All we can go by is fairly generalised responses from the different age ranges and the types of environment you are operating in. eg a work/school environment can usually tolerate less none than a culb/party as the mood is usually more determinedly sexual. If she has responded well to an overt none mix like that, then the chances are good you will be able to push it higher or in a more sexually overt direction and as you have kept-up a clearly sexual intention with this girl from the beginning, I recokn she can deal with it. However its **you** not just the mones who will finally tip her into full-on sexual activity, so there is a time to stop talking and start acting! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 12:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407/3 "2012-08-15T12:06:43Z")
Its hard to say how much anone will be to much for you. We are all different. The general rule of thumb is when using heavy anone or heavy masculines add a buffer (social) at a 3 to 1 ratio with That would be 3 sprays of buffer per 1 spray of anone. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 12:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407/4 "2012-08-15T12:39:49Z")
> [@DevilJin](#): > > Now my question is, could I use a combo of 3xTUTH, 15mcg of P74, 3xIS and 50mcg of P83? Are the dosages of P74 and IS enough of a buffer? Or is that ODing on none? I’m aware that ammo is already buffered, that’s why I ask this question. If I may, How old are you? What strength of TUTH do you own, You Devil … 2.5 or 5.0? Take that sucker out on a test drive, and see how she (the mix) handles. And do make sure you come back to report how the ride was!! 😉 Through the years, there have been lots of **too much none scares off the young and delicious** , but EXCEPTIONs has been spotted all over the place. One may love it, one may like it, and one may hate it. Tis why testing is the ONLY way to get your answer. 😉 And you could very well be missing the power of IH in the mix. Isn’t testing fun!?!?! Well, it should be! May the FORCE be with you! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DevilJin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/258eb7/32.png) [@DevilJin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DevilJin)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407/5 "2012-08-15T16:47:53Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > If I may, > > How old are you? > > What strength of TUTH do you own, You Devil … 2.5 or 5.0? Take that sucker out on a test drive, and see how she (the mix) handles. And do make sure you come back to report how the ride was!! 😉 > > Through the years, there have been lots of **too much none scares off the young and delicious** , but EXCEPTIONs has been spotted all over the place. One may love it, one may like it, and one may hate it. Tis why testing is the ONLY way to get your answer. 😉 > > And you could very well be missing the power of IH in the mix. Isn’t testing fun!?!?! Well, it should be! > > May the FORCE be with you! 😃 I’m 22, I’ve got the regular strength TUTH (2.5?). Is IH a better buffer than IS for TUTH in your experience? ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407/6 "2012-08-15T17:00:29Z")
> [@DevilJin](#): > > I’m 22, I’ve got the regular strength TUTH (2.5?). Is IH a better buffer than IS for TUTH in your experience? I wasn’t thinking along the lines of buffering, more like finding out what’s going on inside her thinker; but she has already admitted to you that she was leaking in your presence, so I take back my advice. **PROCEED WITH CAUTION** , and have fun!!! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407/7 "2012-08-15T17:51:07Z")
Yes - IS keeps the feeling happy very well but its IH’s close/connecting properties that are the most useful here. IH is excellent for precipitating those **“it was just meant to happen”** moments that we all love! 🙂 Only, don’t go obliterating your none with an enormous dose of IH like you were thinking on last time. Keep it in proportion with the rest of the mix. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnM)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407/8 "2012-08-17T03:51:17Z")
> [@](#): > > I’ve read many people say that none based products like TUTH can irritate and have the potential to backfire majorly. Now I’ve been using a combo of 1xammo, 2xTUTH, 15mcg of P74 , 3xIS and 50mcg of P83 with a girl whose only 20 and I’ve had good success. Now she’s told me openly that she’s usually slightly wet around me with that combo. I want her to get even hornier, so we can actually get down to business If a girl tells you that she’s wet when she’s around you, why do you think that you need to get her hornier? Maybe it’s more important to worry about the logistics. Getting the girl very horny while being in public where the girl can’t have sex with you doesn’t necessarily help you. ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407/9 "2012-08-17T04:32:51Z")
> [@JohnM](#): > > If a girl tells you that she’s wet when she’s around you, why do you think that you need to get her hornier? > > Maybe it’s more important to worry about the logistics. Getting the girl very horny while being in public where the girl can’t have sex with you doesn’t necessarily help you. These were my exact thoughts when reading the first post. She’s openly told you that she gets aroused when you’re near. If you like her you may want to act on that. Are you looking for the mone mix that makes her rape you or what? Be careful what you wish for then. You may not enjoy the strap-on. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 5:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407/10 "2012-08-17T05:14:21Z")
> [@JohnM](#): > > If a girl tells you that she’s wet when she’s around you, why do you think that you need to get her hornier? That’s easy to answer! Because that’s what women do to men. Their brains go haywire, and then they figure they need something more. 😃 _ **"She locked the door! Nailed a couple of boards across it to make sure I couldn’t get out! Pulled out a gun, and said,“YOU ARE GONNA DO ME, AND YOU ARE GONNA DO ME NOW!”** _ _ **Now, what mix can I use to make her pull out a gun and a knife!?!?!"** _ 🙄 Another example that proves that women make the world go round, and man’s intelligence go down! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![DevilJin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/258eb7/32.png) [@DevilJin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DevilJin)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407/11 "2012-08-18T05:14:57Z")
> [@JohnM](#): > > If a girl tells you that she’s wet when she’s around you, why do you think that you need to get her hornier? > > Maybe it’s more important to worry about the logistics. Getting the girl very horny while being in public where the girl can’t have sex with you doesn’t necessarily help you. She says she wants to hold off doing the dirty until she really gets to know me and once we connect but she said that if she got any hornier, she would find it really hard not to get down to business. That’s precisely why I made this thread. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407/12 "2012-08-18T05:18:46Z")
> [@DevilJin](#): > > She says she wants to hold off doing the dirty until she really gets to know me and once we connect but she said that if she got any hornier, she would find it really hard not to get down to business. That’s precisely why I made this thread. Use some [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), that could speed up the getting to know each other/comfort/connection phase. ---
**Author:** ![DevilJin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/258eb7/32.png) [@DevilJin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DevilJin)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407/13 "2012-08-18T05:25:35Z")
> [@still18](#): > > Use some Instant Honesty, that could speed up the getting to know each other/comfort/connection phase. I have been doing upto x4 sprays but she really isn’t one to open up it seems. Got any recommendations of any tweaks that I can make to that combo? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 5:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407/14 "2012-08-18T05:34:34Z")
> [@DevilJin](#): > > **She says she wants to hold off doing the dirty until she really gets to know me and once we connect** This can be a bit of a red flag TBH. Some women who like but are not that attracted to a man will try to keep them hanging-on with just this excuse. After all, what is better for “connection” than sex? However, when a woman gets the hots for a guy fully, there is **very little** that will keep them out of bed with him and often all thought/caution will be thrown completely to the wind. So you now need to balance your respecting her stated wishes whilst making it **absolutely clear** that you are not going to be her little lapdog, and wait patiently till she decides to put-out. You have other potions to explore. Alternatively, this could also be seen as her making a veiled suggestion that she wants you to take control sexually and some of your previous posts does suggest that to me - however, you are the one who knows her best and can judge if this is a good or bad move. ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 6:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407/15 "2012-08-18T06:22:56Z")
> [@DevilJin](#): > > She says she wants to hold off doing the dirty until she really gets to know me and once we connect but she said that if she got any hornier, she would find it really hard not to get down to business. That’s precisely why I made this thread. To be blunt one of my ex GF’s confessed to getting wet whenever I entered the same room as her. We used to f\*ck a lot. Something isn’t right. And it could be just as mobo is saying. Buuut, assuming all is OK did you [try P83](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-corrupting-a-modest-woman/56048) after? ---
**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnM)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-much-none-is-too-much-none/56407/16 "2012-08-20T13:05:59Z")
> [@](#): > > She says she wants to hold off doing the dirty until she really gets to know me and once we connect but she said that if she got any hornier, she would find it really hard not to get down to business. That’s precisely why I made this thread. If I get this right you asked her to have sex with you and asked why she doesn’t want to have sex. Than you take her answer as “factual truth”. As I understand it adding more -none will increase her feeling of you pressuring her into having sex with you. It doesn’t exactly raise her comfort level. It could work. > [@](#): > > I have been doing upto x4 sprays but she really isn’t one to open up it seems. The amount of -none you wear can make her feel threatened and uncomfortable to open up. You have basically two choices: 1. Increase the -none. It increases the pressure on her. It’s risky. It might make her break down, be mad at you or it might make her wild to have sex with you. 2. Decreasing the -none. It reduces the pressure on her. It makes it easier for her to open up to yourself.