# How pheromones affect virgins? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 11, 2007, 9:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591 "2007-07-11T09:01:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kiara](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kiara/32/747_2.png) [@Kiara](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kiara)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 9:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591/1 "2007-07-11T09:01:19Z")
I’ve been reading this forum so much that i feel like i’m almost becoming an expert on pheros lol 😃 but what i haven’t found yet, is how sexual [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) would affect virgin man? I think i read somewhere, that men recognize the smell of copulins and subconsciously know that its the smell of a turned-on woman and they automatically (also subconsciously) think: “could I be the reason she’s turned on?” But… what i think is… that if a guy is virgin, then he can’t recognize the smell, since he has never smelled it before? and if i wear some sexual mix of pheros, then he might not understand what that smell means and run off? or does he get aroused anyway but just doesnt know why? 😃 just some of my thoughts…🙄 ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 11:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591/2 "2007-07-11T11:11:52Z")
So far the only [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) iv tried are instant shine and ammo, instant shine uppes my mood a bit, and ammo has a tendency of getting me down (though not always), on the other hand iv been near women where it was possible that it was theire scent that got me turned on, so i think it may be built in and not just from past experience. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 12:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591/3 "2007-07-11T12:32:32Z")
From what I gather it is a built in response. They Dont have to recognize or be familer with the scent for it to turn them on. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591/4 "2007-07-11T16:33:27Z")
> [@Kiara](#): > > I’ve been reading this forum so much that i feel like i’m almost becoming an expert on pheros lol 😃 > but what i haven’t found yet, is how sexual pheromones would affect virgin man? I think i read somewhere, that men recognize the smell of copulins and subconsciously know that its the smell of a turned-on woman and they automatically (also subconsciously) think: “could I be the reason she’s turned on?” > But… what i think is… that if a guy is virgin, then he can’t recognize the smell, since he has never smelled it before? > > and if i wear some sexual mix of pheros, then he might not understand what that smell means and run off? or does he get aroused anyway but just doesnt know why? 😃 > > just some of my thoughts…🙄 If he’s a virgin pheros will help but you might find artfully helping him chase you will make the biggest difference. ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591/5 "2007-07-11T16:52:58Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > If he’s a virgin pheros will help but you might find artfully helping him chase you will make the biggest difference. Well.. in hard cases, blatantly help him would be more precise 😃 as far as im aware this is true about most male virgins: male virgins, that arent virgins of their own free will, have some kind of feeling that they dont deserve girls as much as other guys, since its other guys that get them. And you therefore need to do a lot more work then you would have to do with a guy that has had girlfriends, one nightstands etc. ---
**Author:** ![tomboy05](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tomboy05/32/2320_2.png) [@tomboy05](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tomboy05)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591/6 "2007-07-11T20:06:53Z")
> [@rollercoaster](#): > > Well.. in hard cases, blatantly help him would be more precise 😃 > > as far as im aware this is true about most male virgins: > male virgins, that arent virgins of their own free will, have some kind of feeling that they dont deserve girls as much as other guys, since its other guys that get them. And you therefore need to do a lot more work then you would have to do with a guy that has had girlfriends, one nightstands etc. Really? My ex lost his virginity to me, and he has had 5 previous girlfriends. It wasn’t difficult to get him to sleep with me at all. But I guess his previous girlfriends weren’t good to him, so maybe he just felt like he trusted me more. He always told me that I was the one who taught him what a relationship is like. Kiara, if you’re looking to sleep with a virgin, maybe try some [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) with the copulins. That should hopefully help out the problem that rollercoaster said might be present. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591/7 "2007-07-11T20:59:21Z")
Most younger guys don’t need to smell, touch or see a woman to get turned on. Just the thought of her has him pitchin’ tent. Also they’re so overwhelmed by their own engorged member they usually don’t care if the woman is turned-on or not. If he likes you, he’ll get the drift and go with the flow. ---
**Author:** ![Quicksilver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/quicksilver/32/1328_2.png) [@Quicksilver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Quicksilver)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591/8 "2007-07-11T21:06:05Z")
> [@Kiara](#): > > But… what i think is… that if a guy is virgin, then he can’t recognize the smell, since he has never smelled it before? > > and if i wear some sexual mix of pheros, then he might not understand what that smell means and run off? or does he get aroused anyway but just doesnt know why? 😃 > > just some of my thoughts…🙄 See this post/thread, and the thread it links to: > [@A theory on why/how cops work on men](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-theory-on-why-how-cops-work-on-men/2546/6): > > Ladies, This is an excerpt from my latest post in [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/setting-for-new-experiment/1270/17](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/setting-for-new-experiment/1270/17) Hopefully it adds some insight to the male reaction to copulins. I was in a car. … I think I smell B.O. but it smells musky and strangely like I need to take more deep breaths of it. It’s somewhat familiar, and it dawns on me what it is. Copulins. From 11:12 to 12:00 the car reeks of cops. The most addicting smell ever. The men are quiet and keep glancing at each other, then look… Cheers, 🆒 Quicksilver ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2007, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591/9 "2007-07-11T23:31:30Z")
> [@tomboy05](#): > > Really? My ex lost his virginity to me, and he has had 5 previous girlfriends. It wasn’t difficult to get him to sleep with me at all. But I guess his previous girlfriends weren’t good to him, so maybe he just felt like he trusted me more. He always told me that I was the one who taught him what a relationship is like The piece iI wrote was loosly from an article I read ages ago that fitted my situation pretty well. I dont think you quite understood what i meant though… so I’v been sitting now for quite som time trying to explain it, but I cant, 1) it’s to big 2) it’s to personal and 3) I dont think it would help anyway. One thing I can say though is that if you dont like being a virgin, then the civilized world where sex is advertised everywhere is no fun place to be. but my advise to you is to take many of the first steps, even those that are usually taken by the male (such as initiating things) at some point he will most likely start take steps to. but if he is anything like me, it probably wont be before he knows that he isnt just fantasising about you actually liking him. stuff you might do to give him the hint is like if you two are going somwhere, thats more then just a few steps grab his hand casually while walking (possibly even with your fingers through his), if you are casual about it, theres a god chance he will be so to. also first kiss, can be a biggie, last time i tried that (which is only about a year ago, didnt get the girl though, im not good at competition..) we were very unpleasently interrupted (twice) and i was very discouraged after that and didnt try again taht day, (and some other guy snaged her, heck even slept with her that night) so if you think he may be trying to make a move, make sure that it it is in a somewhat safe invironment, or do it yourself. btw, how old are the two of you? (damn’s gotta be the msg that has taken me the longest time to write, mainly becouse of all the painfull things i tried to put down in words and then decided they were just to painfull and deleted them again. anyway, i hope it helps you, he may be nothing like me, and in that case it wont help much, but good luck with getting him 🙂 ) ---
**Author:** ![tomboy05](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tomboy05/32/2320_2.png) [@tomboy05](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tomboy05)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591/10 "2007-07-12T00:25:43Z")
I’m really sorry to hear you’ve been having a hard time. I really didn’t mean for you to bring up bad memories. I understand what you’re getting at though. For what it’s worth, you can always PM me if you have a situation you need help with. It wasn’t until I was 19 years old when I got into my first relationship. My high school years weren’t very good to me. But trust me, it was worth the wait. Trust me, I’m sure the right girl will come along and make it worth the wait 😉. ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 2:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591/11 "2007-07-12T14:48:12Z")
> [@tomboy05](#): > > I’m really sorry to hear you’ve been having a hard time. I really didn’t mean for you to bring up bad memories. I understand what you’re getting at though. For what it’s worth, you can always PM me if you have a situation you need help with. > > It wasn’t until I was 19 years old when I got into my first relationship. My high school years weren’t very good to me. But trust me, it was worth the wait. Trust me, I’m sure the right girl will come along and make it worth the wait 😉. No worries, I’m pretty thick skinned, sometimes it just overwhelms me 🙂 besides every1 has painful memories when it comes to that area, heck I know a guy that can get just about any girl he wants, yet he is miserable most of the time, I’m nowhere near that low 🙂 On the plus side, I’v never been dumped 😉 And if a problem to personal to post comes up that i need help with, I’ll be sure to PM you, thanks 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ProtoJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@ProtoJay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ProtoJay)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 2:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591/12 "2007-07-13T14:31:55Z")
> [@Kiara](#): > > I’ve been reading this forum so much that i feel like i’m almost becoming an expert on pheros lol 😃 > but what i haven’t found yet, is how sexual pheromones would affect virgin man? I think i read somewhere, that men recognize the smell of copulins and subconsciously know that its the smell of a turned-on woman and they automatically (also subconsciously) think: “could I be the reason she’s turned on?” > But… what i think is… that if a guy is virgin, then he can’t recognize the smell, since he has never smelled it before? > > and if i wear some sexual mix of pheros, then he might not understand what that smell means and run off? or does he get aroused anyway but just doesnt know why? 😃 > > just some of my thoughts…🙄 To give you my opinion, being a virgin (as a man) doesnt have anything to do with not being turned on by women, or not being able to detect copulins (which signify how fertile a woman is, not how turned on SHE is)… There are two situations where a man is a virgin, the first is when he has made that choice on purpose, and the other is where he hasnt. When its the former, it means hes made an active choice to be celebate. As a result, using pheromones to make him more turned on probably wont work if he is not comfortable with you or doesnt think your the one he ones. Usually, communication is a better idea, and comforting him. In other words, talk to him and try and deduce what exactly hes looking for and find out when he wants to make the relationship more intimate. At this point, you can wear pheromones to turn him on, wear copulins, etc, as well as make an effort in the bedroom. Good luck anyway… ---
**Author:** ![ProtoJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@ProtoJay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ProtoJay)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 2:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591/13 "2007-07-13T14:46:41Z")
Also, I dont mean to hijack this thread, but what I was also wondering if how well would pheromones work on virgins of the female gender. I am assuming that by the time a female is 18 years old, she will be exposed to the pheromone signature of many guys, and probably also had several boyfriends, yet hasnt felt ready to do it. Im just wondering from a female perspective, what pheromones are the likeliest to make you do it if you are (or were) a virgin. Im guessing that it isnt just about trying to turn you on alot, but perhaps trust and respect. So maybe [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/)/A314 + Instant Honesty is a good basis. That would be my guess, id love to hear back… ---
**Author:** ![tomboy05](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tomboy05/32/2320_2.png) [@tomboy05](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tomboy05)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591/14 "2007-07-13T16:56:18Z")
> [@ProtoJay](#): > > Also, I dont mean to hijack this thread, but what I was also wondering if how well would pheromones work on virgins of the female gender. I am assuming that by the time a female is 18 years old, she will be exposed to the pheromone signature of many guys, and probably also had several boyfriends, yet hasnt felt ready to do it. Im just wondering from a female perspective, what pheromones are the likeliest to make you do it if you are (or were) a virgin. Im guessing that it isnt just about trying to turn you on alot, but perhaps trust and respect. So maybe Instant Gentleman/A314 + Instant Honesty is a good basis. That would be my guess, id love to hear back… I guess it mostly depends on the girl’s willpower to stay a virgin. I’m trying to think of how I would react to a guy wearing pheromones when I was a virgin. When I really wanted to stay a virgin, I might have been a little more cuddly and maybe a little frisky, but I don’t think that would have made me sleep with the guy. Maybe a guy wearing pheromones over a period of time would make his virgin girlfriend more and more comfortable with the thought of sleeping with him because that would probably make her think more and more about it from being turned on. ---
**Author:** ![Kiara](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kiara/32/747_2.png) [@Kiara](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kiara)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591/15 "2007-07-14T05:27:26Z")
Well thanks everyone, got some useful information here 🙄 actually my intentions are not THAT serious… its not that i don’t want him, but i don’t want to take advantage of him in any way. so i’m just trying to get close to him and get to know him. Then we’ll see what comes after. those questions were more like hypothetic, like “what if” and “wonder what happens if” kinda style. ---
**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-pheromones-affect-virgins/4591/16 "2007-07-14T18:24:39Z")
If he is in cellebesy of his own free will then i agree it would be taking advantage of him, or trying to atleast 🙂 If its not somthing he has chosen, then by all means, go for it.