# How strong is the scent? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 17, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-strong-is-the-scent/49917 "2011-04-17T16:16:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pat83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71e660/32.png) [@Pat83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pat83)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-strong-is-the-scent/49917/1 "2011-04-17T16:16:43Z")
Hi everyone. I am Asian and work in a conservative but racially diverse office. I don’t think I’ve ever smelled cologne on guys or perfume on the girls although a few mid-aged women wear heavy perfume. The kind that makes you think there is a halal food stand behind you when they walk over. I know a number of the guys wear unscented deodorant because it does got hot later in the day even if the office is well A/Ced. I’d to know how strong are the scent from the IO, IH, IS social products and AMMO, TUTH, IJ, IG and A314 and if there is a way to cover it up. Going stealth with no scent is the best but I don’t think that’s possible with [pheromone](https://a314.com/). If the scent isn’t too bad I can start using lightly scented deodorant to cover it up but I cannot be the cologne guy. My target is also setting 6’ from me and I cannot choke her with the scent. ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-strong-is-the-scent/49917/2 "2011-04-17T17:55:45Z")
I have the IO, IH, and IS sprays. They seem a bit strong when you first spray them, but they diffuse well. For the first couple days I couldn’t bare the idea of spraying more than 2 or 3 sprays…but they really do diffuse! Take a look at this thread and note Tisha’s response, she is very helpful in this department! > [@ODing on scent](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-scent/49866): > > There’s a lot of talk here about OD-ing on mones, but I’ve found significantly less discussion on OD-ing on scent. In my (youthful) stupidity, I bought a 2.5mcg/spray vial of p83, and (maybe as a relic from my basenotes days) cannot bring myself to apply more than four sprays. I hate being The Cologne Guy. This can, and will, be solved in my next order, when I get p83 in a higher concentration if it is still available. My question is- with all the combinations that you guys do, do you keep a sc… ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-strong-is-the-scent/49917/3 "2011-04-17T18:05:16Z")
[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is the strongest you have there and you don’t really need a cover scent for that. The rest are all pretty light in normal use and because of the oil-base, A314 is the most discrete of the lot. Remember that less os often more with pheros and don’t start with too many sprays or use too many products together to begin with. And 6’ from your target is well within a normal indoor phero range. ---
**Author:** ![Pat83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71e660/32.png) [@Pat83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pat83)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-strong-is-the-scent/49917/4 "2011-04-17T19:18:29Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Ammo is the strongest you have there and you don’t really need a cover scent for that. > > The rest are all pretty light in normal use and because of the oil-base, A314 is the most discrete of the lot. So AMMO is the strongest and will cover up other’s (IO, IS, etc.) scent if I applied them. Does layering affects the scent or is it about the same applying on different spots. > [@mobocaster](#): > > Remember that less os often more with pheros and don’t start with too many sprays or use too many products together to begin with. > > And 6’ from your target is well within a normal indoor phero range. 6’ is within the scent’s range or pheromone’s effective range? She sits in the cubical across from me (not adjacent) and there is a 4’6" divider wall between us. I rarely walk in or walk behind her cube but often stands up and talk to her over the divider. Here I draw up a setting chart. Everyone else in the office is more than 12’ away from me. (I am 6’ from target, 7’ from the girl adjacent. The guy is about 9’ from me and 7’ from target.) . . . . . . . | \<- tall divider (5’6") . . . . . . . | . . target .| . guy ---------------------- \<- short divider (4’6") . . . me . .| . girl . . . . . . . | . . . . . . . | I want to figure out if I can keep the scent in my cube, pheromone’s effect closest to the two of us and don’t accidently let her think it is the other guy. The short / tall dividers work in my favor but just barely. ---
**Author:** ![Septerra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/septerra/32/196_2.png) [@Septerra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Septerra)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-strong-is-the-scent/49917/5 "2011-04-17T19:51:55Z")
You said, > [@Pat83](#): > > don’t accidently let her think it is the other guy She’s not going to think its you unless you act with it. Look up congruency and owning your signal. I haven’t found an amazing post on it yet, but have seen a few posts that discuss it. Maybe read this thread to get a better understanding: > [@Pheromones and self-consciousness](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-self-consciousness/44654): > > I’ve been thinking about the effects of constant pheromone use and self-consciousness and I have came to this conclusion: Excessive use of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), using different mixes, and then observing and caring about the “hits” you’re getting puts you into a negative frame of mind. That frame of mind is generally, “I care about other people’s reactions” and “I want people to react positively to me so that I feel good about myself.” I really think pheromones offer some benefits. But to what extent? … ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-strong-is-the-scent/49917/6 "2011-04-17T20:17:27Z")
> [@Pat83](#): > > So AMMO is the strongest and will cover up other’s (IO, IS, etc.) scent if I applied them. > > Does layering affects the scent or is it about the same applying on different spots. > > 6’ is within the scent’s range or pheromone’s effective range? Yes layering can affect the scent a bit IME. I tend to start with the lower scents, then add Ammo or any stronger cover scent last. The other thing I tend to do is for none-products, start from the neck/chest area and work out, whilst with socials, I’ll start with the wrists/forearms (depending on clothing cover) and work in. Applying Ammo/none to your neck first also ensures you get the best of any self effects and itgets anchored into your scent/phero signature. However, all the alcohol base products can be layered over each other in any way you like. Oil-based A314 is different and you don’t layer over that, use different App points here. I usually use neck - line up behind the ears, wrists - pulse points and so-on. Within the phero range, the scent may be faintly detectable as it acts as a carrier to diffuse it further. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-strong-is-the-scent/49917/7 "2011-04-17T20:35:22Z")
You can do a customization for AMMO. Use [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/)/FF21/FF22 and take the light scent. Otherwise, you’re just going to reek of cologne if that’s what you’re trying to avoid, I’ve sprayed in the upwards of 10x of lightly scented and it was never an issue.