# How TAF stacked up in a blindfold comparison test - Me and "M" **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 27, 2009, 4:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-taf-stacked-up-in-a-blindfold-comparison-test-me-and-m/26534 "2009-02-27T04:47:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 2:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-taf-stacked-up-in-a-blindfold-comparison-test-me-and-m/26534/21 "2009-03-04T02:44:28Z")
> [@CookieGirl](#): > > My OD with TAF has been completely different from any OD I’ve had from other pheros. Usually, I get struck with a huge headache and my brain feels like it wants to split open. I get nauseous to the point of wanting to vomit and my throat starts to get very dry. > > I didn’t realize what a “crash” it was until two days ago. I’ve also been checking up on Vespero’s TAF extravaganza and I noticed that he also feels similar. Diane said something about neurotransmitters, which I didnt fully comprehend because Im dumb, but I’ll look it up :o > > Now with TAF, I’ll can be more descriptive because I’m actually still feeling it right now. Because I cant stop using it. It smells too good. And it makes my other phero’s “shiny”.☹ But it feels like my brain is on the fritz. Numb. Its hard for me to have a firm grasp on anything afterwards. I dont necessarily feel the physical crash (i.e waking up exhuasted as with Vesp) but then again, I went to sleep and woke up fine. Energetic. Then two hours later, I was crawling back into bed for a nap. …Dunno what happen there. > > Actually, it feels EXACTLY as if I had stayed up the WHOLE night, got 7-8 hours of sleep right through the mornign and woke up in late afternoon. You know that feeling Im talking about ? Like everything feels wonky and despite getting enough hours of sleep in, you dont exactly feel “well-rested”. > > Someone get me off this thing. It’s like coffee. _Don’t keep using!!!_ You will regret it immensely. The pheromones cause your brain to burn through the chemiosignals it normally uses. You need to take time off of the pheromones and replenish. Eat walnuts and bananas, take lots of B-complex vitamins, get some Omega 3 fatty acids, take vitamin C, drink lots of water. And put the pheromones away for 3-4 days up to a week. If you don’t, you will come to the place where you get _no_ effects from the pheromones and you will bottom out. Diane ---
**Author:** ![CookieGirl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cookiegirl/32/1379_2.png) [@CookieGirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CookieGirl)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 2:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-taf-stacked-up-in-a-blindfold-comparison-test-me-and-m/26534/22 "2009-03-04T02:52:42Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > _Don’t keep using!!!_ You will regret it immensely. The pheromones cause your brain to burn through the chemiosignals it normally uses. You need to take time off of the pheromones and replenish. Eat walnuts and bananas, take lots of B-complex vitamins, get some Omega 3 fatty acids, take vitamin C, drink lots of water. And put the pheromones away for 3-4 days up to a week. If you don’t, you will come to the place where you get _no_ effects from the pheromones and you will bottom out. > > Diane Saw this and now I have banana + orange juice in hand, and took a fish oil pill. Thanks for the warning Diane, I definitely dont want that to happen ! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 5:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-taf-stacked-up-in-a-blindfold-comparison-test-me-and-m/26534/23 "2009-03-04T05:45:57Z")
> [@CookieGirl](#): > > Saw this and now I have banana + orange juice in hand, and took a fish oil pill. Thanks for the warning Diane, I definitely dont want that to happen ! ☹ You are welcome! Most of us take at least one or two days a week off from testing and from [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) use. I learned the hard way. It wasn’t fun. Diane ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-taf-stacked-up-in-a-blindfold-comparison-test-me-and-m/26534/24 "2009-03-04T05:59:32Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > You are welcome! Most of us take at least one or two days a week off from testing and from pheromone use. > > I learned the hard way. It wasn’t fun. > > Diane Good idea. Now I’m glad I take at least 1-2 days off every week. I don’t want to not feel any effects! ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-taf-stacked-up-in-a-blindfold-comparison-test-me-and-m/26534/25 "2009-03-04T06:07:14Z")
Awesome idea Cookie girl and happykitsune. Tell you what, I got more phero toys than I know what to do with, and I’ve got empty to-go’s and 30 ML bottles. If you wanna PM me your names and addresses, I’ll fill up a couple of to-go’s with a putatives and send them out to you, and I’ll PM each of you what the other is testing. I don’t know either of you and you don’t know me, so if your uncomfortable with that, I totally understand and respect you for being cautious. But, you both seem really cool and it would be a killer experiment! I have sent out bottles of pheros to several of the ladies and even a couple of the guys though, and they’re all still around, safe and sound, and nobody’s shown up and shot me yet, 😮 so I ain’t worried if you guys aint. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-taf-stacked-up-in-a-blindfold-comparison-test-me-and-m/26534/26 "2009-03-04T07:58:52Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > _ **I have sent out bottles of pheros to several of the ladies** _ and even a couple of the guys though, and _ **they’re all still around, safe and sound** _, and _ **nobody’s shown up and shot me yet** _, 😮 so I ain’t worried if you guys aint. I can vouch for that. 🙂 😉 Never had a real urge to shoot him. Though I have thought about _hogtying_ him upon occasion. 😛 'Cept he’d prolly _like_ it. 🙄 😃 Bella ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-taf-stacked-up-in-a-blindfold-comparison-test-me-and-m/26534/27 "2009-03-04T13:55:55Z")
cookie, just so you and any other experimenters know, TAF 's burnout is severe, true - but you _can_ burnout from most of the molecules under specific conditions. TAF is by no means the only one with this reaction 😃 i remember trying to find a threshold with [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) (seems so innocent) but yeah after 160mu you mind as well have huffed TAF ! id rather figure out where the limits are incrementally than all at once with a _whoops_ :o ---
**Author:** ![CookieGirl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cookiegirl/32/1379_2.png) [@CookieGirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CookieGirl)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-taf-stacked-up-in-a-blindfold-comparison-test-me-and-m/26534/28 "2009-03-04T17:37:44Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > If you wanna PM me your names and addresses, I’ll fill up a couple of to-go’s with a putatives and send them out to you, and I’ll PM each of you what the other is testing. > > I don’t know either of you and you don’t know me, so if your uncomfortable with that, I totally understand and respect you for being cautious. But, you both seem really cool and it would be a killer experiment! I’m totally up for it ! (despite being terrified of putatives) I wish I could blind test myself but unfortunately my phero’s have rather distinctive smells ( or I’ve atleast gotten familiar enough to distinguish certain ones ) I’ll totally pm you then… me and kitsune are working out a plan 😃 > [@Lor](#): > > cookie, > just so you and any other experimenters know, > TAF 's burnout is severe, true - > but you _can_ burnout from most of the molecules under specific conditions. > > TAF is by no means the only one with this reaction 😃 > > i remember trying to find a threshold with P74 (seems so innocent) > but yeah after 160mu you mind as well have huffed TAF ! > > id rather figure out where the limits are incrementally than all at once with a _whoops_ :o I was just about to ask you if I should have caution with all other pheros 🙄 Funny thing is, I didn’t even realize I was using phero’s so much. It wasnt till diane warned me that I thought " Well, I only used it today, last night, and sunday… and saturday…and…friday for friends…some on thursday too…wednesday…ah shit… " And TAF in almost all of them ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-taf-stacked-up-in-a-blindfold-comparison-test-me-and-m/26534/29 "2009-03-04T17:55:34Z")
Cookie - I was rolling on the floor laughing at your post. “Red - I want to punch babies.” AHAHAH!! 😃 I want in on this phero switcheroo blind testing. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-taf-stacked-up-in-a-blindfold-comparison-test-me-and-m/26534/30 "2009-03-04T18:05:07Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > I want in on this phero switcheroo blind testing. 🙂 I think it’s a brilliant idea! Maybe we should start a blind test circle… Everyone gets or decants a P or Mx…no lables…and send it to someone on the list 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-taf-stacked-up-in-a-blindfold-comparison-test-me-and-m/26534/31 "2009-03-04T18:07:17Z")
I think it’s great - I can see this getting expensive though… 🙂 I dont want to “lose” any of my stash, so I’ll have to buy another to go for someone else to test… but I’ll get theirs! And they’ll have bought a new one too, 'cause they _clearly_ also dont want to lose any of their stash… Hey! Is this an Androtics marketing scheme!? 😉 Cookie… ---
**Author:** ![CookieGirl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cookiegirl/32/1379_2.png) [@CookieGirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CookieGirl)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-taf-stacked-up-in-a-blindfold-comparison-test-me-and-m/26534/32 "2009-03-04T18:55:45Z")
I was hoping that atleast 8 other women would wanna join in so then all of us are forced to buy 7 sprays each. You caught me 😉 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-taf-stacked-up-in-a-blindfold-comparison-test-me-and-m/26534.md?page=1)