# How to break the resistence of ex

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 28, 2008, 4:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513 "2008-02-28T04:49:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![spiderweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@spiderweb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spiderweb)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 4:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/1 "2008-02-28T04:49:09Z")

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I would like to know how to break the resistence of your ex to fall in love with you again. I did some mistakes and my ex left me. She has feelings for me still but acts very tough. We are still in talking terms but she tries hard to keep the conversations short. I meet her daily. I know she still has feelings for me, but she is trying very hard to supress the feelings. I know phermones can not change her mind completely but I know they can atleast weaken her resolve. I would like to know how can the phermones help me here.

I have tried so far with nols, IShine for one day and nols+IShine+Instant Honesty the second day. They seem to be working. I would like to know if I should use [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) for the next meeting. I am thinking of going with nols+IShine+Instant Openness+Instant Honesty for the third day. Next day we are going out I am thinking of using nols+IShine+Instant Openness+Instant Honesty+Instant Female Magic. I would appreciate any suggestions.

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 4:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/2 "2008-02-28T04:56:16Z")

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Aside from the relationship aspect of things, I would think [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) & IH and IFM might work well.

Instant shine to keep everyone as upbeat as possible.  
IFM to help her relax in a potentially stressful situation.  
IH may help you two honestly discuss issues that need to be aired while possibly creating a sense of connection.

The thing to remember is that a good relationsip needs good communications.

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**Author:** ![spiderweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@spiderweb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spiderweb)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/3 "2008-02-28T05:02:52Z")

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Thanks for your reply. We had some good times and some bads times towards the end of our relationship. Presently she is only thinking about the bad times. How to make her feel good about me then she will think about our good times together. I believe if she feels good about me then she will think about the our good times together.

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**Author:** ![incubusattacks](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/incubusattacks/32/1259_2.png) [@incubusattacks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/incubusattacks)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/4 "2008-02-28T06:18:49Z")

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Well me and my ex don’t talk anymore but we still hang out with the same group of people. Weird, I know. Well ever since i started using high concentrations of CTTM2, i’ve had on 2 occasions, DIHL from her. SO try it out maybe, it might work.

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**Author:** ![malleus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malleus/32/1722_2.png) [@malleus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malleus)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 11:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/5 "2008-02-28T11:11:54Z")

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I think A314 might come in handy in this situation. It will make you seem trustworthy and respectable, and may encourage her to rely on your words and put her faith in you, which might make it easier to overcome some of the “mistakes” you made in the past with her.

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**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 1:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/6 "2008-02-28T13:25:21Z")

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Hi Spiderweb!  
Sorry tor ead about you and your girlfriend. Ok, beside the “human factor”, let me say that I think you’re on the good way on the “Pheromone Factor”, the others just wrote what I wanted to say… I think that on this situation, IFM and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) (to rise “deep conversation”) would be your winning horses. Keep us updated!!! Good Luck!!!

See ya

Franz

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**Author:** ![kustocha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kustocha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kustocha)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 8:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/7 "2008-02-28T20:33:54Z")

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I am in the same situation. We both hang out in the same group. I have worn 3x A314 and 3x IShine near her at a party and noting worked on her. 😕 She never even talked to me. I am gona order some instant openness and instant female magic. I just want to try the instant line on her first. Anyone else with some advice? 🙄

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/8 "2008-02-29T00:58:43Z")

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Having been down this road with my ex-wife and a GF I have a few observations. First, despite the sometimes extremely dramatic testimonials on this board, most pheromone reactions are highly restrained and subtle. Reactions tend to be most pronounced among strangers and casual acquaintances. Those that know you best–lovers, close friends and family–tend to ignore a new pheromone signature. In their mind they have you pegged in a certain niche, and it takes a lot of time to change a hardened perception.

In my case, no amount of type of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) were able to treat the root cause of the failed relationship. Most relationships fail because of communication and lifestyle problems, not chemistry. I wasn’t able to revive or reclaim my failed loves, although I’m still friends with my ex-wife and share some business ventures. In all the years I’ve read of forum member quests to reclaim lost love with pheromones, I don’t recall any that actually worked. However most dug the pheromones and found they helped open other doors for them professionally, socially and sexually.

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**Author:** ![millwark](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/millwark/32/560_2.png) [@millwark](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/millwark)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 1:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/9 "2008-02-29T01:01:44Z")

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> [@bosshank](#):
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> Aside from the relationship aspect of things, I would think Instant Shine & Instant Honesty and Instant Female Magic might work well.
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> Instant shine to keep everyone as upbeat as possible.  
> IFM to help her relax in a potentially stressful situation.  
> IH may help you two honestly discuss issues that need to be aired while possibly creating a sense of connection.
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> The thing to remember is that a good relationsip needs good communications.

Or lots of money and ignorance. 🙄

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**Author:** ![spiderweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@spiderweb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spiderweb)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 9:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/10 "2008-02-29T09:23:54Z")

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I have tiried IS+IH+IFM. I know phermones are working but still she avoiding me. She is feeling different but still she is resisting the feelings pretty hard.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/11 "2008-02-29T15:31:56Z")

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I dont want to come across as Harsh but she may keep resisiting. Yes the mones are probably effecting her but they wont change her mind. Thats not what mones do. They enhance and give you a edge but people retain there free will.

As gegogi mentioned it takes more time to work on someone who knows you well to. Took over a week for me to get my husband to respond and that was just to IO. People close to you will respond though after repeated exposures. They will start looking at you funny then start asking questions like “you get a haircut” Is that new" ?? They begin to try to place whats different.

If my husband had a reason not to respond he wouldnt and it would take more then the mones to overcome that.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![oce89](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/oce89/32/2198_2.png) [@oce89](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oce89)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 3:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/12 "2008-02-29T15:59:23Z")

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spiderweb, I think your doubting yourself a bit too much here. Sure I’m gonna invest in some pheros and see if I can get a few IOIs from my ex at a party next week, but I won’t go any further out of my way after that. Coming across as a needy type guy, only drives them further away. I harassed my ex after we broke up with bitching and stupid text messages and she found someone else. Being a strong character is what women love to see. Not a pathetic needy begging emotional wreck. Be confident, be a man, stand tall, hell, be an ass and try ignoring her for a day or two. See how she likes that. Your sure her feelings for you are still there? Awesome, let her do the work. Why not use it to your advantage? How would she feel if she saw you get close to another girl? Jealous? It’s not a nice thing to do but what other ideas have you got? I hope this works out for you man, just don’t rely on pheros so much, your better than that and have more power at your disposal than you know.

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**Author:** ![spiderweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@spiderweb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spiderweb)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/13 "2008-03-01T22:31:40Z")

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I am not in a cool state of mind currently. I feel down and think of her almost entire day. Anyway I am trying hard to ignore her. She has feelings for me and she is trying very hard to supress them, hence she always tries to avoid me. I know phermones are making her weak but I am still struggling to find the right combination. I feel [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)+Instant Honety+IFM seem to do the trick. Next week I will try CTTM. I want a combintion of phermones by which she feels good about me emotionally. I am not looking for any sexual phermones.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 1:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/14 "2008-03-02T01:47:34Z")

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You’ve never mentioned the root cause of your breakup. pheromones may ignite a chemical spark for a brief time and get her attention (been there!). However, you’ve really got to solve the root cause first or you’re wasting yours and her time. Root causes for breakup tend to revolve around problems related to finances, communication and the future of the relationship. For example, she may perceive her child bearing days passing quickly and need someone with a 6 figure income and a diamond ring ready to make house and babies. So still loving you won’t make any diff if she doesn’t see a stable future with you and those things she needs. I’ve seen many women in their late 20 to 30s make that hard choice and walk away from a guy they cared about only to quickly marry a fat hairy divorced dentist.

I think oce89 gave you the best short term advice. Meanwhile you need to get busy solving the underlying root problem. Once that’s fixed the pheromones will lure her back and you’ll have the wherewithal to keep her.

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**Author:** ![Baldman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/baldman/32/2015_2.png) [@Baldman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Baldman)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 4:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/15 "2008-03-02T04:09:35Z")

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^^^  
Exactly 100% right. Listen to this man.

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**Author:** ![kevio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c5a1d2/32.png) [@kevio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevio)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 7:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/16 "2008-03-02T07:09:02Z")

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oce89 said it right. I wanted to get my ex back so badly that I appeared pathetic and needy. No girls like that and never will. We didn’t solve the root problem and so could not get back together. However, it was our problem and me fixing this alone could not work. In your case, I don’t know but if you, yourself alone can solve this problem. Do it.

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**Author:** ![Baldman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/baldman/32/2015_2.png) [@Baldman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Baldman)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 12:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/17 "2008-03-02T12:45:43Z")

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Read this one all the way through mate, its the gods honest truth in my experience. Not a ‘move on and forget her’ post but a ‘hang in there’ one.

Anyway, again, I agree. Best thing you can do, even if you want her back badly is move on and hang out with other girls. You’ll grow as a person and you’ll at least be on even ground when you get together next. THAT is where the pheros come into play. Getting you into other girls… So to speak. As I’ve found, pheros cannot break the years (in my case) of looking at you in a certain light that she has had. They can influence a new view of you once you have grown alot and start spending time together again, yes. But you can’t just jump back into her life expecting the pheros to make things ok. Thats a hard thing to hear, but it’s the truth I’m afraid.

Spending time with other girls, even if you don’t really want to, will take away the needyness you exhibit and make you feel better about everything. It’ll also show her you’re more of a man, an individual and someone who can look after what you need.

You can’t take care of anyone else until you can take care of yourself. Women, and humans in general, can sense that about others.

This is in no way me saying forget about her and move on. Sometimes that is best, yes. But I don’t presume to know your relationship with her or anything like that. If anything this is me saying hang on to hope. You very well might get there again. BUT you need to go out and grow a bit first. Look out for number one… You. Then go back to her when you’re a full person with more experience under your belt and try again.

I am the biggest sucker for that one girl, but even I am finding out that spending time with other girls is the best medicine. I don’t go into situations expecting them to be ‘the one’ and I just enjoy their company and companionship for what it is.

Most important point is being a man and being upfront with them. I always tell girls I get involved with (when we have “the talk”) that I honestly don’t know where the relationship is headed. I might be gone tomorrow or I might be with you for the rest of my life. I just don’t know. And thats the truth, anything could happen. Just make sure you don’t play with anyones feelings along the way and be up front about everything. It’ll get you a long way with the fairer sex… At least the ones that are worth spending any time with. If you’re going for ‘those’ girls (i.e the slutty ones) then lie through your teeth if you need to. But you’ll find they make you feel worse about things in the long run and you won’t grow at all as a person by sleeping with as many girls as possible.

I’ve learnt the most about myself by spending time with girls I still hold very close to my heart. Those were unexpected and I was in no way after a long term relationship when I met them since I was still in love with my one girl. But, as life would have it, they gave me the most valuable lessons I’ve ever learnt in my life just by being them. Get out there mate, you’ll meet some amazing girls and if anything it will help you on the road back to your ex… Assuming that after you’ve experienced them you still want to go back.

Excuse my rambling I’ve had a few drinks and my tongue is a bit loose, but, its a rambling based off of my own personal experience. You really will learn alot by getting out there and just experiencing other girls. They’ll teach you lessons about yourself and life that nothing else could. It honestly is, in my opinion, the best road back to an ex.

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**Author:** ![spiderweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@spiderweb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spiderweb)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 9:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/18 "2008-03-02T21:12:41Z")

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Thanks for the advise. I agree pheros are definitely helping me get the other girls but I seem to have a mind-lock of that girl. Lets see how it goes.

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**Author:** ![The\_Phoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/71c47a/32.png) [@The\_Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 5:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/19 "2008-06-20T17:08:33Z")

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🙂 Hi all. Im going through something that kind of fits in with the issue on this forum. My ex-fiance and I had been together for sometime and before I met her she had gotten a DUI and then another while I was out of town for 4 months. Per her law requirements she had to go to rehab, which is an 8 week venture and she will be returning late July. A week before she left, she ended the relationship but left it on a positive note saying we could eventually date or still get married after she is back. Mainly the reasoning was that we were not as strong individually as we had been before I left town. When I returned from being out of town, I had set up plans for jobs, vehicles, places to live, etc. Well it all fell through except with her. But, I became depressed and very self-centered and it pushed her away and that combined with her emotional stress of going to rehab is what I and her parents, who still Love me and invite me to dinner weekly, have generally agreed upon as to what ended our relationship. I am seeing a therapist so that I may rid myself of this nasty little habit of becoming selfishly depressed and also to break the cycle of self-sabotaging my relationships with women. I spoke with this girl the day before she left for several hours and it was great conversation, but I wont have any contact with her from May 23-July 23 which is her term in rehab. I know her mindset is going to be different as is mine and I accept the fact that we might not get back together, but I also have never had such an amazing relationship with a woman and she even said the same thing the last time I talked to her. We Loved each other deeply and passionately. I now am getting myself taken care of so I can be the best individual I can be for her or any woman I have a relationship with, but I do want to have every oppurtunity to work it out with her once she returns. I have one month before that is and I am also planning to incorporate the use of pheromones. Im buying the A314, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Instant Honesty and Instant Openess but does anyone have any other reccomendations of what I should attempt to use? Any feedback is deeply appreciated as its gonna give me another perspective to look upon things!!!😃 Thank you all very much for your support and Im looking forward to getting to know everyone as this is my first post!  
The\_Phoenix

Change the way you look at things and the things you look at change…

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**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 6:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-break-the-resistence-of-ex/9513/20 "2008-06-22T06:23:19Z")

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> [@malleus](#):
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> I think A314 might come in handy in this situation. It will make you seem trustworthy and respectable, and may encourage her to rely on your words and put her faith in you, which might make it easier to overcome some of the “mistakes” you made in the past with her.

I agree with the quote on A314. And I think the IFM is a good idea.

I’d throw some TAF into the mix. It seems to have that see-it-again-for-the-first-time quality to it. That’s exactly what you’re looking for, isn’t it?

Once you are _sure_ you have her wanting to give you another chance but resisting her own emotions, try P83. It has a reputation as a sex [pheromone](https://a314.com/), but the better evidence seem to suggest that it is NOT. It just lowers inhibitions. Once she succumbs, be totally ready to make her glad to be with you in a way she won’t forget. Liquid Trust might work here. And TAL is another one that may lower her resistance.

In the meantime give TAK a try on yourself when your obsessing over her. I don’t know that I’d throw it into the mix when you are around her though.

This is a classic problem. Let us know if you have any success. I really want to know what happens when you add TAF.

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