# How to find your sweet spot...

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 28, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146 "2008-10-28T21:13:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dmoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@dmoney](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dmoney)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/21 "2010-06-09T16:01:14Z")

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hey guys quick questions. i’m trying to follow these guidelines but i think i alreayd messed up. I tried one spray of A314 on saturday and did not notice much then took off sunday and monday off…then tried 2 sprays yesterday and had one activity. Should i try 2 sprays again today or continue to with my original plan and take today off and try tomorrow or thursday?

i only ask because i misread what to do when i started i did read the part hat said to try out each spray for 3 days (thats what i get for reading fast at work).

So again should i do 2 sprays again today or take off today and tomorrow and try thursday?

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/22 "2010-06-09T16:48:34Z")

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You just deferred your timetable by 1 day, go with days off in between and not by actual day names tha t you wrote down.

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**Author:** ![dmoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@dmoney](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dmoney)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/23 "2010-06-09T17:04:09Z")

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ok so try 2 sprays again today and just go a day off in between no need to have it be two days rights?

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/24 "2010-06-10T02:07:07Z")

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I think it would be easier to judge the consistency of the product if you go three days on, two days off.  
I would try three days at one spray/drop per day, take two days off and make note of the differences, then do three days at 2 sprays/drops etc

Beyond that I wouldn’t advice doing this with A314 until you’ve done most if not all the other consumer line products. A314 is subtle and until you learn to recognize hits and how rone hits differ from none hits from nol hits etc, you could be getting results from A314 and not even know it. The danger with that is that because it’s subtle and you might not even notice the slow gradual results it gives you might give up on an awesome product.

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**Author:** ![Getterdone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/71e660/32.png) [@Getterdone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Getterdone)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/25 "2010-06-10T02:46:56Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Lately I have been getting a lot of calls from guys and gals unsure what the forum members mean when we say “sweet spot.”😛
> 
> Here’s a very simple way to find your individual sweet spot for each consumer line product like:  
> Ishine  
> IH  
> IO  
> IFM  
> AMMO  
> A314  
> TUTH  
> and so on.
> 
> It’s very easy to do and I hope this guide offers you the assistance you need. When applying the pheromones, please ensure that you are using only one (1) pheromone product at a time. This step is extremely important and must not be skipped. It ensures you are getting the proper results without extenuating circumstances. What works for Ammo, might be completely different for TUTH 😛.
> 
> With that in mind, if you aren’t already, please ensure you are properly cleaning yourself daily. Sometimes, with heavy molecules like Androstenone (-none), that have a tendency to stick to your skin soap and water don’t wash it off well. A search will reveal numerous threads about -none buildup that I highly suggest you read.
> 
> Taking into consideration that above, please follow these guidelines and soon you too, will have experience with your very own sweet spot.
> 
> 1. Use one (1) spray each day for three days
> 2. Take two days completely off pheromones
> 3. Use two (2) sprays each day for three days
> 4. Take two days completely off pheromones
> 5. Use three (3) sprays each day for three days
> 6. Take two days completely off pheromones
> 7. Use four (4) sprays each day for three days
> 8. Take two days completely off pheromones
> 
> During each day using and non-using of pheromones a journal should be kept. This journal should include any hits noticed or anything out of the ordinary. Even if you don’t believe it was a hit you should write it down.
> 
> I have discussed this with numerous forum members and everyone always asks me: “what happens if three sprays is my sweet spot, should I just stop there?” The answer is no! Here’s why: you have no way of knowing if you just stop at three (or where ever) if you don’t push it above that if maybe more is better. Nothing to compare it too. Three maybe good, but four maybe better, so if you stop at three you might be short-changing yourself.
> 
> Remember though, mones are not magic and as such the results you get will be along the lines of what you have been getting with the journal you kept. If you noticed more smiles while wearing three sprays, that is what you should consider a hit while you have three sprays on from that point. It gives you a decided advantage when you know how much to wear and what to look for.
> 
> As you progress further into your mones you will start to notice more than just the initial smile you were getting. The key to all this is practice and patience. Smile and be happy always.

Now any particular locations eg: Neck, wrists?

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/26 "2010-06-14T02:40:08Z")

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Experiment, depends on where you noticed that your colognes smell the best

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**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 8:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/27 "2010-06-29T08:56:50Z")

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Hey I know this is an old thread, but what do you guys think about doing more of a binary search? Do a 3 day round of 1 spray, 2 days off, a 3 day round of a pretty high dose, say 4 or 5: if there are no adverse effects, no signs of od-ing, then increase the dosage. Once there’s a round of od-ing, start dividing the distance between what’s od-ing and what may not yet be the perfect threshold in half until perfected.

While I’m not so sure this really helps at the begginning of testing and that Steve’s way is probably better, faster, and easier, I think that it’s the idea for perfecting that threshold down to the last mcg, which is more important when delving into certain putatives and would be very important and helpful when making personal mixes for I would think.

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**Author:** ![falcos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/falcos/32/1189_2.png) [@falcos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/falcos)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 12:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/28 "2010-07-05T12:17:42Z")

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Can I request that this thread becames a sticky? I think its very important for the new users.

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**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/29 "2010-07-06T05:40:43Z")

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> [@falcos](#):
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> Can I request that this thread becames a sticky? I think its very important for the new users.

I couldn’t agree more, sticky request here too!

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/30 "2010-08-04T16:22:15Z")

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sticky it!

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**Author:** ![mark2115](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@mark2115](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark2115)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/31 "2010-08-11T00:03:55Z")

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With all do respect, i am a newbie, so not trying to sound like an expert, and i totally get the idea behind finding your sweet spot through the described method, but this method takes i wd estimate 3 - 6 months to figure out how many sprays to apply, not to mention the time u gona need to start mixing after that!! With this method, you need a year to be where you wana be, i think thats just too long.

What i think as an easier way, is to read many of the journals on here, (i understand its diff. for each person) but using common sense, if 1 spray of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) worked for a guy, i dont think another 1 spray of ammo on another person is going to repell people. What causes the repelling effect is the crazy mixing i read by some.

About me, after reading many journals (and asking many questions -which i think is v. important) and using common sense.. based on what each product does, a person might be able to start mixing a couple of products or even three, at low number of sprays (1 to 2), based on the responses, adjustments then applied.

Thats what i think, and again, am a newbie.  
Thanks

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 2:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/32 "2010-08-11T14:02:16Z")

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> [@mark2115](#):
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> With all do respect, i am a newbie, so not trying to sound like an expert, and i totally get the idea behind finding your sweet spot through the described method, but this method takes i wd estimate 3 - 6 months to figure out how many sprays to apply, not to mention the time u gona need to start mixing after that!! With this method, you need a year to be where you wana be, i think thats just too long.
> 
> What i think as an easier way, is to read many of the journals on here, (i understand its diff. for each person) but using common sense, if 1 spray of Ammo worked for a guy, i dont think another 1 spray of ammo on another person is going to repell people. What causes the repelling effect is the crazy mixing i read by some.
> 
> About me, after reading many journals (and asking many questions -which i think is v. important) and using common sense.. based on what each product does, a person might be able to start mixing a couple of products or even three, at low number of sprays (1 to 2), based on the responses, adjustments then applied.
> 
> Thats what i think, and again, am a newbie.  
> Thanks

Much respect for posting a valuable opinion 🙂.

This is only a “guide” and not a must do. Everyone IS different and some people need the structure. This was created because 50% of the community, at the time, were reading journals and reports, attempting the same thing and then not understanding why they didn’t get the same results. Guides help guide people 😉.

I still absolutely believe this is a very important step with none based mixes and powerful products like A314.

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**Author:** ![MISTIKO](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mistiko/32/1956_2.png) [@MISTIKO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MISTIKO)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/33 "2010-10-01T21:14:03Z")

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> [@falcos](#):
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> Can I request that this thread becames a sticky? I think its very important for the new users.

Of course…sticky!! Great information for new users!!!

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**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/34 "2010-10-02T01:44:03Z")

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Random question, do certain people have certain sweet spots, or is the sweet spot for you as an individual? So one friend may get reeled in with 3 Ammo while an other hits off of 1? So do you need to do certain testings in general? I am begining to notice I am not getting the same reactions as I use to anymore ( and certain people react to certain amounts/combos too ).

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/35 "2010-10-02T03:37:37Z")

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> [@samuraitea](#):
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> Random question, do certain people have certain sweet spots, or is the sweet spot for you as an individual? So one friend may get reeled in with 3 Ammo while an other hits off of 1? So do you need to do certain testings in general? I am begining to notice I am not getting the same reactions as I use to anymore ( and certain people react to certain amounts/combos too ).

in short…yes

frustrating answer I know but it’s the truth. When we talk about sweet spots what we mean is the level at which you experience the best results on an overall average.  
That’s not to say that EVERYONE you happen across will respond favorably. You may find that 4 sprays of ammo gets you the best results overall. But you will occasionally find a random person who is particularly none sensitive that is repulsed by it. Likewise what might be considered an overdose for all sakes and purposes could be the fucking bees knees for a very small group.

For example, once for shits and giggles I decided to go balls out and sprays somewhere in the ballpark of 8 sprays of [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/). That’s roughly about 20 mcg of none and steering mones. The whole day I had roughly about an 8 feet space cushion around me at any given time. Unless circumstances forced people to get within it they would subtly avoid me. Likewise with talking. I could say “hello” and be totally ignored unless I did it louder and in a more confrontational manner like standing directly in front of them and saying “I SAID HELLO”  
Now, in spite of that on the first day of the experiment I had a fairly attractive black woman stare at me while I was talking to her about her glasses and she subconsciously slid her hand under her shirt collar and began massaging her tit right there in front of not only me…but her 12 year old son!  
The second day of this little experiment a hispanic woman was making goo goo eyes at me and let it slip that she was in the market for a husband to “take care of her needs”.  
Now these were both women over 35 and black and hispanic women are reputed to be more responsive to none than Caucasians or Asian women. But even then these were TWO hits in two days when I see 20-30 people a day. So while I would take hits of that obvious a nature all day if I can get them the fact is they are two few and far between at that level to be considered a sweet spot.

A good idea for potential record keeping is this.  
**Your General Sweet spot** (the level at which you get the best reactions, and the best consistency of reactions)  
**Your Specialized Sweet Spots** (the mones, quantities and ratios at which you get the best results with a particular person):IE A single spray of TuTH may creep out your coworkers but 3 sprays could turn your current girlfriend/LTR into a screaming sexual hellcat.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/36 "2010-10-04T17:56:17Z")

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Another Great Rad Answer

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**Author:** ![phaseshift](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@phaseshift](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phaseshift)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 6:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/37 "2011-01-06T06:38:52Z")

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I’ve got a question when mixing -nones. Say I find that my sweet spot for AMMO is 2 shots, IS is 3 shots, IO is 2 shots and TUTH is 1 shot. Does that mean I can combine all of them in a total of 8 shots?  
Or mixing is a completely different way of finding out?

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**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 7:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/38 "2011-01-06T07:03:50Z")

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Ammo and TUTH are Both -None using BOTH could Cause an OD… With what the Listed you MIGHT get away with 1 Ammo and 1 TUTH… With the IS and IO you don’t have to Worry so Much… Socials are Kinda Hard to OD on…

Note: With a Mix, YES you Need to Find a NEW Sweet Spot for Each MIX…

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**Author:** ![stiggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@stiggy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stiggy)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/39 "2011-04-01T17:57:33Z")

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the issue i have with sweet spot testing is , i work in a office with 95% men and i work in a cube LOL. so how can i even tell is Ammo is working lol.

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/40 "2011-04-01T18:55:27Z")

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…go out, if you’re not wanting to throw out a sexy vibe at work because you’re surrounded by mostly men…then uhhh go someplace where there’s women and test it there.

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