# how to  make p83 work for me - 74/ IH/ p83 dissaponting

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 12, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-make-p83-work-for-me-74-ih-p83-dissaponting/15384 "2008-07-12T09:43:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![mahalo\_silver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mahalo\_silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mahalo_silver)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-make-p83-work-for-me-74-ih-p83-dissaponting/15384/1 "2008-07-12T09:43:06Z")

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so this is the one putative in struggling with …today i wore p83 [12.5 plus 2.5 residual mg’s]/ p74 [10]/ IH at 1 spray and i went out for a coffee with a girl. gone was the comforting seductive response i got from her last week while wearing [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)/IS/IH [just about my current favourite combo.] she seemed hesitant and somewhat defensive, not OD like, but its like she was straining to be polite and couldnt wait to go home. i compared it with the last time she saw me, when the IOI’s were flyin’ around, and im confused by todays response.

things ive noted while wearing p83:

1. ive only had good hits with pale skinned/ caucasian. asian and middle eastern chicks give a defensive response. i realise this is just my experience and some get good responses from darker girls with p83.
2. low dose is essential for me…say not above 12.5mcg, today just abit over and it really turns even with a few extra mcg’s worn.
3. needs IH or another comforter to be effective.

so, so far, really dissapointing, but im determined to figure it out, as ive had brief amazing moments with it at low dose, so i can see its potential.

anyone found the killer way to use it or combine it ?

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**Author:** ![mahalo\_silver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mahalo\_silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mahalo_silver)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 9:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-make-p83-work-for-me-74-ih-p83-dissaponting/15384/2 "2008-07-12T09:48:39Z")

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so another thought, id worn the ammo/ih/is around her succesfully. that was 3 days ago…today im totally changing my signature with the 74/ IH/ p83…was she confused by this? i was scared she might become immune to reacting to the none so i wanted to vary it…then again, if somethin’ aint broke…dont try and fix it?

whats the consensus on quick phero signature changes? ie. every few days with the same people. just confuse 'em , right? maybe this explains the reaction i got, though, maybe not, as this has been a standard response while wearing p83 above 12.5 mcg