# How to Maximize Diffusion OUTSIDE **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 5, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-maximize-diffusion-outside/50622 "2011-06-05T16:11:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-maximize-diffusion-outside/50622/1 "2011-06-05T16:11:55Z")
Now that it’s warm and beautiful out…Got cool things going on like NYC open Rooftop parties, dates involving walking and ice cream etc… What to do to improve the outdoor diffusion?? Is it a myth that adding an extra spray to what you would normally wear indoors is a good idea? Perhaps it’s a good idea to wear heavier cologne when outside to increase diffusion? Of course, on a hot day, we all know [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) burn off quicker, only leaving the scary none on… Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-maximize-diffusion-outside/50622/2 "2011-06-05T16:29:28Z")
Not to nitpick the choice of wording but diffusion during warmer months, particularly outdoors will be fine, and actually better than during most other conditions. Diffusion is simply the action of the mones being lifted off the skin and getting airborne…which warm weather would be fine for. I think what you’re asking about is sillage, which would be your mones/scent leaving a trail of sorts that leads others to you. Outdoors in warmer months your range and density can be adversely effected. Even on a day where the air is still, your range will increase as the open air allows the scent to spread out farther, the drawback to this is the strength of signal will be inversely proportional. A VERY light gentle breeze can be beneficial if you can manage to position yourself upwind of the intended targets. This would increase the range of effect, and keep your signal concentrated in one direction as opposed to spread out in all directions. My advice, is to either A.) try to stay upwind of the intended target, or B.) try to maintain close proximity. Using more product will be more expensive in the long run and then has the drawback of being too much if for some reason you have to go inside for any length of time. ---
**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-maximize-diffusion-outside/50622/3 "2011-06-05T16:35:11Z")
Thanks Radman! As long as I stick to females shorter than me and stay close to them, the SILLAGE should be effective enough outside! Now to put that to the test on my ice cream date today… ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-maximize-diffusion-outside/50622/4 "2011-06-05T16:56:00Z")
A little tip, I do this at work since the office stays pretty warm in spite of the ac running. I use patient charts as a fan of sorts. You can do this by having a magazine or something handy. Don’t overdo it but during warm months using something as a makeshift fan won’t be seen as being the least bit strange, people do it all the time and it allows you to slightly control the direction of your phero cloud. I’ll do it once every couple of minutes just to make sure my signal hits the intended target. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-maximize-diffusion-outside/50622/5 "2011-06-05T17:10:27Z")
Finding an outdoor activity that involves tents is a goodun! Can’t you tell I like my festivals? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-maximize-diffusion-outside/50622/6 "2011-06-06T22:31:10Z")
> [@giants52000](#): > > Now that it’s warm and beautiful out…Got cool things going on like NYC open Rooftop parties, dates involving walking and ice cream etc… > > What to do to improve the outdoor diffusion?? > > Is it a myth that adding an extra spray to what you would normally wear indoors is a good idea? > > Perhaps it’s a good idea to wear heavier cologne when outside to increase diffusion? > > Of course, on a hot day, we all know pheromones burn off quicker, only leaving the scary none on… > > Thanks! As much as I don’t prefer the FF21 scent, and I like to really only use [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) at night, I find that those are the best ones in terms of like what Radman said, sillage. Also for the summer months, I like to keep a togo with me, I mix something like IS and IH together in a bottle and I’ll add on my favorite summer cologne in there, let it sit for a couple of days, and then just spray a little here and there throughout the night. If you wear a buncha -none based mixes then it’s perfect, and even if you don’t the IS and IH still are very good esp since being happy and comfortable with someone at the end of the night can have very good results especially if the attraction stage is complete, IMO for first time meetings, can be a better way to help get around LMR. I got the 2x strength of both of them so essentially 2 sprays, with added cologne of 1/4 of the to-go bottle is about 1 spray of equivelent strength. I don’t do exact numbers because these are just on the fly refreshers I use if I needed them at that point. ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 5:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-maximize-diffusion-outside/50622/7 "2011-06-07T05:36:25Z")
I first started using mones last April here in NYC…thru the summer, so my 1st encounter was outside as I work daily outside on the streets. Close proximity and reapplication was a common theme. I’m now working outside again this summer and I’m seeing the same thing. I’ll put on 3 sprays of IG and ride my bike …2 and half hours later..it’s like it’s all gone. So instead of the usual 4 hrs…i do 3 and re-up with one more spray. With IS…i do like mustang and have a togo, feel like that goes away 30 min after i spray when im outside in the sun, biking…even slow steady bikin. With A314, I tried going over and wore about 3 or 4 drops…OUCH! I felt so tense and angry…yuck! So I backed it off to 2 drops. And I just find I need to be close to my target…although be cause I’m hot and it’s hot I find it diffuses like magic…the way it’s supposed to when I 1st started using mones…the winter happened and outside 2 drops of A314…seemed like i wasn’t wearing ANY mones. with TUTH, i find one spray to my wrists works just as fine inside as outside…matter a fact I strategically used this at work mind you outside and got, exactly what I always get. The girl gets turned on and begins kino. And because of build up, i pretty much DONT re-up like i would. So, I kinda feel like my whole experience with mones from the beginning and throughout has been outside. And Radman hit it on the head. Close proximity. Happytaps ---
**Author:** ![Gotchaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Gotchaz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gotchaz)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 4:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-maximize-diffusion-outside/50622/8 "2011-06-09T04:40:26Z")
Good info here I was at ball last Sunday and put on 4xIO and 4XIS and got nadda, zip. Everyone was pretty much the way they always are. I wonder if suntan lotion messes it up. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 8:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-maximize-diffusion-outside/50622/9 "2011-06-09T08:08:05Z")
If you’re outside, it’s so hard, in pool/beach scenarios, you almost have to put on an inordinate amount or just don’t waste product and just go without it