# How to mix A1? Willing to learn. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 20, 2009, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144 "2009-05-20T08:57:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![silentscope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/silentscope/32/2218_2.png) [@silentscope](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/silentscope)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/1 "2009-05-20T08:57:35Z")
I bought a bottle of DPG and a bottle of Perfumers alcohol both dropper tops and I’m waiting for the A1 to arriieve. Do I use the DPG or alcohol or mix them both together with the A1. I have 5ml empty to go bottles. What can I use the measure? For the A1 how many drops? I know I’m still pretty new at this but I’m willing to learn? Please provide feedback and suggestions. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 9:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/2 "2009-05-20T09:38:24Z")
Do you have it in liquid or crystal form ? What is the Mg’s ? Tisha ---
**Author:** ![silentscope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/silentscope/32/2218_2.png) [@silentscope](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/silentscope)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/3 "2009-05-20T09:41:20Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Do you have it in liquid or crystal form ? > > What is the Mg’s ? > > Tisha Ordered the stuff from LS I’m waiting for it to arrive ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 9:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/4 "2009-05-20T09:58:48Z")
I believe there’s are in dry form but I never bought A1 there so I am not positive. These posts will help \>\>\> > [@How do I dilute concentrated pheromones?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-dilute-concentrated-pheromones/4460): > > Hey, I have concentrated estratetraenol (5 mg/5 mL) and concentrated androstanone (5 Mg/5 mL, but I wonder if that is a misprint, because that would be VERY concentrated) I wish I could dilute these so I can dose them, especially since I like knowing how much pheromone it takes to get a reaction. I am thinking about placing an online order with an ebay seller who sells atomizers that look exactly like the to-go atomizers as well as funnels and graduated pipettes. Anyway, nbully gave me a grea… > [@Homebrew Mixes?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/homebrew-mixes/16722): > > I know I am not the only one who makes his own phero-mixes using putatives and experimones. Naturally, it is sometimes necessary to change the concentrations of my, “base solutions,” so that that final product is of another given concentration. So, herein lies my dilemma: When I am diluting solutions in order to change their concentrations, should I use EtOH, DPG or both? If both, then what kind of ratios? I am aware that even AD’s Instant line contain some DPG, for the desired diffusion ef… For crystal EST [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) I dissolve in ethanol, 1ml to 1 mg of pheromones. It takes a few days to dissolve completely. Then I mix this in DPG if I am adding it to a oil EO cover. If not I add it right to the alcohol based product I am using without the DPG. The tricky part is figuring out the dose. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![silentscope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/silentscope/32/2218_2.png) [@silentscope](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/silentscope)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 10:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/5 "2009-05-20T10:17:46Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I believe there’s are in dry form but I never bought A1 there so I am not positive. > > These posts will help \>\>\> > > [How do I dilute concentrated pheromones?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-dilute-concentrated-pheromones/4460) > > [Homebrew Mixes?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/homebrew-mixes/16722) > > For crystal EST pheromones I dissolve in ethanol, 1ml to 1 mg of pheromones. It takes a few days to dissolve completely. Then I mix this in DPG if I am adding it to a oil EO cover. If not I add it right to the alcohol based product I am using without the DPG. The tricky part is figuring out the dose. > > Tisha I found this **My androstadienone journal** [http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8224](http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8224) Not sure if I should of link this remove it if needed ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/6 "2009-05-20T19:42:02Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I believe there’s are in dry form but I never bought A1 there so I am not positive. It’s a chemset mone. Alcohol carrier, “eye dropper” top.😃 ---
**Author:** ![TheCentaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@TheCentaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheCentaur)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/7 "2009-05-20T20:07:08Z")
now to question a good dose. 10 mg is 10,000 mcg right? so… if you fill a togo with just that solution from ls, you’d have ~100 mcg per spray. what’s the ideal dose you want to look for? what was the total mcg dose in IFM? wasnt it something like 19mcg total per spray? (there were other pheros in there,too) ---
**Author:** ![silentscope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/silentscope/32/2218_2.png) [@silentscope](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/silentscope)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/8 "2009-05-22T21:20:19Z")
Got my A1 today in the mail The ingreients ethanol, water and A1. ---
**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/9 "2009-05-22T23:17:54Z")
I’ve heard that members who use the “chemset” A1 from Love Scent tend to apply one to two straight drops and then cover. Since there’s already ethanol and water in the A1 you bought, I wouldn’t mix it with anything. Probably best to use straight. ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/10 "2009-05-22T23:57:32Z")
> [@Ball.Saxbury](#): > > I’ve heard that members who use the “chemset” A1 from Love Scent tend to apply one to two straight drops and then cover. > > Since there’s already ethanol and water in the A1 you bought, I wouldn’t mix it with anything. Probably best to use straight. If LS is using the apparently popular 100mg:100ml ratio of crystals to solvent, then using your A1 undiluted might be a bit of a waste. 100mg:100ml ratio produces, roughly, a 1000 parts per million solution. One ounce of this solution is 30 ml, and in that 30 ml would be 30 milligrams of crystals (if they are evenly dissolved, etc.) One milligram would be dissolved in one milliliter. If your average spray bottle gives you roughly 6.67 sprays per milliliter (that’s about 200 sprays per ounce, the Androtics standard spray bottle) then you will be getting **150 mcg per spray** which is about ten times the average dose in an Androtics “commercial product” per spray. Or compare to TUTH, which starts with a mere 2.5 mcg per spray and goes up from there. So you can use any measure you like to dilute your source, but remember that once it is diluted, it can’t be ~undiluted~. For a 15 mcg per spray dose (using the standard Androtics spray bottle – the 5ml ToGo spray delivers less volume) you just mix 9 parts of diluent with 1 part of your 100:100 source. (Once again, this assumes that LS is still using the 100:100 concentration.) For a 10 mcg per spray dose, mix 14 parts of diluent with 1 part of 100:100 source. That could be 14 drops of perfumers alcohol plus one drop of source, or 14 shot glasses of alcohol plus one shot glass of source. My diluent is typically 95ml perfumers alcohol and 5ml DPG, or 98ml:2ml. I personally have two solutions that I use regularly: - 40 mcg/spray: 8 ml source to 22 ml diluent makes 1 oz - 15 mcg/spray: 3 ml source to 22 ml diluent makes 1 oz I use the 40 mcg concentration for mixing up with other pheros for “convenience mixes” – e.g., if I’m mixing A1, alphanol, betanol, and -rone in equal parts, the 40mcg A1 when mixed will be at 10mcg/spray strength. The 15 mcg/spray concentration is what I use when I want to apply the A1 alone, or on a particular body part. Hope that helps. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/11 "2009-05-23T00:59:52Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > It’s a chemset mone. Alcohol carrier, “eye dropper” top.😃 Well than you Jim this is good to know. Like I said I never got the the chem set A1 but I did get the est which was dry so I wasnt sure. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![silentscope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/silentscope/32/2218_2.png) [@silentscope](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/silentscope)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 1:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/12 "2009-05-23T01:17:28Z")
> [@silentscope](#): > > I bought a bottle of DPG and a bottle of Perfumers alcohol both dropper tops and I’m waiting for the A1 to arriieve. Do I use the DPG or alcohol or mix them both together with the A1. I have 5ml empty to go bottles. > > What can I use the measure? > > For the A1 how many drops? > > I know I’m still pretty new at this but I’m willing to learn? Please provide feedback and suggestions. Any more suggestion how to use ---
**Author:** ![silentscope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/silentscope/32/2218_2.png) [@silentscope](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/silentscope)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/13 "2009-06-04T06:24:04Z")
Need some more advice on how to mix Androstadienone in 5ML to go bottle in simple to understand terms? ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/14 "2009-06-04T06:44:25Z")
> [@silentscope](#): > > Need some more advice on how to mix Androstadienone in 5ML to go bottle in simple to understand terms? Holy mizzole, you mean… what you bought elsewhere doesn’t clearly label the dosage you’re using? Oi vey. That’s bad news! Dosage with Androstadienone is so infinitely important to understand what it’s doing. It’s a tough molecule to nail down for some folks… the wrong dosage can send one spiraling into icky self-effects (not everyone, mind you, but some people have terrible self-effects with it despite lovely effects on females.) ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/15 "2009-06-04T13:38:05Z")
> [@silentscope](#): > > Need some more advice on how to mix Androstadienone in 5ML to go bottle in simple to understand terms? If you can measure a half ml then you can make a 12.5 mcg per spray dilution in a to go by placing 1/2 ml of the L-S 1mg per ml solution in a togo and adding 4 and 1/2 ml of diluent (perfumers alcohol or everclear). precise measurement at these small amounts is important YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![TheCentaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@TheCentaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheCentaur)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/16 "2009-06-04T17:17:03Z")
how accurate do you wanna go? you can get pipettes and syringes at the pharmacy if you didnt order any, or it didnt come with the kit. renny just said fill 1/10 of your togo with A-1 and the rest up with diluent. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/17 "2009-06-04T17:39:46Z")
Just experiment until you find you a SWEET SPOT … 4:1, 3:2, A-1:cologne, OR … 4:1, 3:2 Colonge:A-1. Some where at Love Scent … someone said they kept upping the A-1 to their cologne, and the more they upped it, the better the hits. I found my notes and sent it to you in a pm. Should anyone else care to see the post, I can post it here. Personally, two drops is all I needed … sometimes I place them on the wrist, and sometimes I place one drop in each arm pit. It’s about experimenting, my friend. Yes, you may waste a little, but when YOU find YOUR sweet spot … t’will be worth it! 😉 Buona fortuna! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![silentscope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/silentscope/32/2218_2.png) [@silentscope](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/silentscope)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 7:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/18 "2009-06-06T07:17:21Z")
I have some A1 colonge in a 5ml bottle. Can I add A! mix it in with the colonge? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 7:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/19 "2009-06-06T07:44:11Z")
You might wanna experience with using small quantities before mixing and potentially screwing it up. I use LS A1 but only need one drop on my hand or forearm to work perfectly at defeating my SO’s PMS. I used to dilute it with 10 parts cologne to 1 part A1 in a Sephora atomizer but found I never used it outside of PMS time. A couple sprays was all I needed during her monthly punishment. I used to also add it to NPA mixes but prefer WAGG, TAA or alpha androstenol as a mellowing agent. ---
**Author:** ![simple\_franky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@simple\_franky](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simple_franky)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 12:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144/20 "2010-04-06T12:41:09Z")
hello, I was wondering how critical the ratio of DPG to alcohol is, I have just been guessing but using upwards of 20% .Could this be the reason for the sketchy results with A1, even in the 20mcg per spray range? Thanks [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-mix-a1-willing-to-learn/29144.md?page=2)