# How to not use scent with pheremones... **URL:** \ **Category:** Parfum / Fragrance\ **Created:** [July 21, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-not-use-scent-with-pheremones/62456 "2014-07-21T02:41:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![p90x3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@p90x3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/p90x3)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-not-use-scent-with-pheremones/62456/1 "2014-07-21T02:41:09Z")
Hi, I am about to order the to-go starter kit. However, I am not someone known to use cologne or perfumes. A long time ago, I use to wear sandal wood and patchouli. I am not willing to go back. Anyway, are there ways to use the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) without making changes to my behaviour that may need to be explained. ---
**Author:** ![vanadium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@vanadium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanadium)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 3:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-not-use-scent-with-pheremones/62456/2 "2014-07-21T03:15:53Z")
Each of the bottles in the starter kit contains a scent (most are neroli, IIRC), so I don’t think that “totally scent free” is an option there. It is a mild scent, however, and I can tell you from personal experience that_I_ noticed it more than others did, especially after the 30 minute “break-in” period that follows application. Androtics does offer unscented options, but pheros themselves have smells that some people may detect, even if you don’t. Maybe blame it on your “new antiperspirant”? It is summer, when many people try out antperspirants even if they don’t usually use them. By fall, no one will notice. ---
**Author:** ![garygoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/garygoh/32/1138_2.png) [@garygoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/garygoh)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 4:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-not-use-scent-with-pheremones/62456/3 "2015-01-21T04:07:26Z")
Are we allowed to wear pheromones with our existing perfumes i.e. CK One or A&F Fierce etc? Since such perfumes do not contain pheromones, it will just make the pheromones applied smell better? Or it will ‘dilute’ the pheromones’ effectiveness? ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-not-use-scent-with-pheremones/62456/4 "2015-01-21T06:00:38Z")
It can definitely change the effectiveness of the pheromones, and is generally not recommended. I don’t think you’ll mind though, because they smell really good! ---
**Author:** ![garygoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/garygoh/32/1138_2.png) [@garygoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/garygoh)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 6:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-not-use-scent-with-pheremones/62456/5 "2015-01-21T06:06:07Z")
Thanks for the advice Miss Dragon. I am awaiting my first [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) order… so I better finish up all my perfumes and eau de toilette now! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 8:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-not-use-scent-with-pheremones/62456/6 "2015-01-23T20:18:31Z")
Good quality colognes pose little problem but the cheaper ones can contain components eg antibacterials that will wipe-out pheros - body sprays, antipersps and hair gels are amongst the worst for this. Think seriously about eliminating them altogether and adopting a more proactive personal hygiene routine. CK colognes should be fine - I’ve never had a problem with any I’ve tried but I don’t know A&F. In fact a good cologne and phero combination can complement each other superbly - smell/scent is a very important attraction trigger in many women and the right combination on an otherwise attractive man is a real winner. 🙂 Although phero sprays and colognes can be layered together, it is also good to keep them to different app points as this will help minimise the risk of any damage from cologne contents but if you are using oil-base pheros, you do need to aboid overspraying with cologne as this will mess-up diffusion badly. Nearby is quite OK though. But yes, for pure phero testing, it is best to avoid all other scented preps so you get the idea of how pheros perform unaided.