# How to OD on IFM and end up insane! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 24, 2007, 1:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-od-on-ifm-and-end-up-insane/1738 "2007-01-24T01:01:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![XDragonX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/6f9a4e/32.png) [@XDragonX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XDragonX)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 1:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-od-on-ifm-and-end-up-insane/1738/1 "2007-01-24T01:01:48Z")
So here’s my question, is it possible to od on instant female magic, instant openness, instant honesty or instant shine? If it is possible to od on it will you be ignored? And approximately how many sprays does it take to + or - 2 sprays. Also I have a question for the younger guys from 16-20. How many sprays do you guys use of the none androstenone produts such as instant female magic, instant openness, and instant shine? Do they work for you around girls 16-20? ---
**Author:** ![malacide](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malacide/32/925_2.png) [@malacide](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malacide)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 1:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-od-on-ifm-and-end-up-insane/1738/2 "2007-01-24T01:09:40Z")
well nothing seemed to work aorund my 16 year old ex… so maybe they are less effectivew the yournger u are ---
**Author:** ![XDragonX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/6f9a4e/32.png) [@XDragonX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XDragonX)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 4:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-od-on-ifm-and-end-up-insane/1738/3 "2007-01-24T04:07:02Z")
and is it possible to od on the instant line? ---
**Author:** ![malacide](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malacide/32/925_2.png) [@malacide](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/malacide)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-od-on-ifm-and-end-up-insane/1738/4 "2007-01-24T04:41:12Z")
i had an interesting experence the other night but im not sure… the od may be differnt on the instant then they would on the TUTH… thats for sure… ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 9:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-od-on-ifm-and-end-up-insane/1738/5 "2007-01-24T09:17:46Z")
> [@](#): > > well nothing seemed to work aorund my 16 year old ex… so maybe they are less effectivew the yournger u are In my experience, [pheromones](https://a314.com/) grow increasingly less effective with people you know well and see regularly, e.g., family, close friends and lovers. I supect they merely get used to you. So, although the 'pheromones may work at a biological level (e.g., invoke a hormonal response), their brain increasingly filters it out. Thus I find pheromones most effective on people I just met or casual pals. In other words, they’re great for initial dates, business meetings, parties and bars, but won’t fundamentally change your relationship your ex-wife (I tried!). ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 9:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-od-on-ifm-and-end-up-insane/1738/6 "2007-01-26T09:18:02Z")
Tonight I applied - 20 mcg Androstenone to my crotch / pubes (wearing jeans commando style) - 20 mcg Androstenone to my back of hands / wrists / goatee - 2 sprays 4x [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) to back of neck - 1 spray Spaceland to back of neck - 3 sprays 2x Instant Shine to front / sides of neck I felt I was walking a half-inch taller; it might have been the cold, or not. Women introduced themselves to me. Men shook my hand like I was a popular political candidate. Acquaintances offered to buy me drinks. My personal space invaded, some casual frottage. A story of muscle strain, an invitation to massage ‘sore muscles’. Three, possibly four, opportunities for sex-now (take me home tonight) and another two or three “I’d like to know you better” opportunities; another 3 IOIs. I tried to OD on -none, and apparently failed. I’ll characterize this evening as an “eye-opener”. I will try -none alone next week … ---
**Author:** ![Matthew1982ct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/matthew1982ct/32/1157_2.png) [@Matthew1982ct](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matthew1982ct)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 9:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-od-on-ifm-and-end-up-insane/1738/7 "2007-01-26T09:23:58Z")
Sounds like a funky little mix. Maybe you could coin a name for it. How about **The Rex Grossman Mix**? Cos it sounds like it has great potential; but with the ability to trip up (-none OD). Matt ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 11:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-od-on-ifm-and-end-up-insane/1738/8 "2007-01-26T11:57:21Z")
Hey Mark, you get an F- on your 'None OD report card. I can’t believe you pulled off that much Androstenone. I was sincerely frightened some weeks ago when you ordered the 10mcg/spray (yes, quivering all the way from California)! Where did you go on this magical night? Actually, this mix kind of super RULES. I don’t think a young man under 25 could pull it off at all. Your placement is very interesting. I think your placement of everything was key in the super results you had tonight. Layering all the social mones toward the face and smile and talking oriface, and then layering all the sexy badass pheromones on the sex machinery (hands and crotch, oh god, I’m sure everyone in the room was driven effing crazy). Makes you wonder! I want to see other folks try out a risky mix like this, in similar application points! ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-od-on-ifm-and-end-up-insane/1738/9 "2007-01-26T14:09:49Z")
> [@Matthew1982ct](#): > > Sounds like a funky little mix. Maybe you could coin a name for it. How about **The Rex Grossman Mix**? Cos it sounds like it has great potential; but with the ability to trip up (-none OD). > > Matt Heh – I guess “fumbling around in public” is one of those things you can get paid big bucks for. I don’t have any allegience to Rex though I wish him well in the Big Bowl. > [@Jasmin](#): > > Hey Mark, you get an F- on your 'None OD report card. > > I can’t believe you pulled off that much Androstenone. I was sincerely frightened some weeks ago when you ordered the 10mcg/spray (yes, quivering all the way from California)! > > Where did you go on this magical night? > > Actually, this mix kind of super RULES. I don’t think a young man under 25 could pull it off at all. > > Your placement is very interesting. I think your placement of everything was key in the super results you had tonight. Layering all the social pheromones toward the face and smile and talking oriface, and then layering all the sexy badass pheromones on the sex machinery (hands and crotch, oh god, I’m sure everyone in the room was driven effing crazy). > > Makes you wonder! > > I want to see other folks try out a risky mix like this, in similar application points! I cycled though three of the local bars/clubs, including my “circus bar”. I really expected to get an ‘invisibility’ response at best, some outright antagonism/barfight at worst. 20 mcg of the -none was … discreetly hidden, not “in your face”, under blue jeans … but even so, the other 20 mcg was right out there. I did wake up this morning with a noticeable tension headache … ---
**Author:** ![HABIB001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/habib001/32/2159_2.png) [@HABIB001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HABIB001)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-od-on-ifm-and-end-up-insane/1738/10 "2007-10-12T17:13:16Z")
Hmmm Well is it possible to overdose on IFM? ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-od-on-ifm-and-end-up-insane/1738/11 "2007-10-12T20:24:10Z")
well, one of the reported side effects is depression in men, so I’d imagine a super dose would at the very least make this effect more pronounced.