# How to PROPERLY make ICM (MX301) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 13, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595 "2010-10-13T17:52:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 2:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/21 "2010-10-14T02:08:55Z")
> [@Wentworth](#): > > THANK YOU, STEVE. I was genuinely upset when I found out it wasn’t going to be in the store anymore. Agreed, I know Steve’s experiences and initial intent seem to be very different. He went for a just got laid, sort of vibe, but I loved it for an almost crushy instant boyfriend sort of vibe, got it as a stand alone, and magnified it tremendously by using with A314. It was like all the ingredients were specifically designed to compliment or enhance the high status vibe of A314. I got better results from that than I did from [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). The man is a genius, hopefully after I have time to experiment with more putatives and experimones I’ll be able to formulate something as impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/22 "2010-10-14T02:14:26Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > Agreed, I know Steve’s experiences and initial intent seem to be very different. He went for a just got laid, sort of vibe, but I loved it for an almost crushy instant boyfriend sort of vibe, got it as a stand alone, and magnified it tremendously by using with A314. It was like all the ingredients were specifically designed to compliment or enhance the high status vibe of A314. I got better results from that than I did from Ammo. The man is a genius, hopefully after I have time to experiment with more putatives and experimones I’ll be able to formulate something as impressive. Exactly the reason I like it. Definitely sends out the crushy vibe. Throw some [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) or P86 on it and watch that aspect come out even more. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/23 "2010-10-14T02:23:12Z")
All ingredients in store. Except pipettes.. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/24 "2010-10-14T03:31:03Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > Exactly the reason I like it. Definitely sends out the crushy vibe. Throw some P83 or P86 on it and watch that aspect come out even more. I thought p83 was in it already; nevermind it is the other ICM mixes ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/25 "2010-10-14T03:32:57Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > I thought p83 was in it already Steve just posted the ingreds to it IN THIS THREAD -\_- ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/26 "2010-10-14T03:36:40Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > CK you already breathe it in everytime you apply lol Yeah breathing in 15 ug of ammo is different from actually mixing and breathing in 100 ml’s it… although I don’t think it will do any health damage, I think you still can get some major high from this ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/27 "2010-10-14T03:59:02Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > Yeah breathing in 15 ug of ammo is different from actually mixing and breathing in 100 ml’s it… although I don’t think it will do any health damage, I think you still can get some major high from this You realize if you think about it with some logic with what he said for the recipe you’d only be mixing 11 something to 22 something mL’s max. Your essentially NOT mixing and breathing in 100’s of mLs because for one the quantity is only 11 or 22 at end product and your not gonna have all your bottles open at the same time when you mix it together. Major high? honestly neroli or whatever I buy the putatives barely emanates from the bottle unless I go and stick my nose in the opening and just inhale. If you don’t want to mix it for yourself then don’t do it but blabbering about mumbo jumbo like this really isn’t warranted. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/28 "2010-10-14T04:01:06Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > You realize if you think about it with some logic with what he said for the recipe you’d only be mixing 11 something to 22 something mL’s max. Your essentially NOT mixing and breathing in 100’s of mLs because for one the quantity is only 11 or 22 at end product and your not gonna have all your bottles open at the same time when you mix it together. > > Major high? honestly neroli or whatever I buy the putatives barely emanates from the bottle unless I go and stick my nose in the opening and just inhale. > If you don’t want to mix it for yourself then don’t do it but blabbering about mumbo jumbo like this really isn’t warranted. okay, dude! Can you do it for me? hehe I am not into mixing chemicals ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/29 "2010-10-14T04:05:54Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > okay, dude! Can you do it for me? hehe > I am not into mixing chemicals The problem essentially is if you tell me to mix something and then you decide not to buy it from me after the fact then I’m stuck with something I do not want. This is why asking other users to mix for you isn’t very plausible. Your better off buying the ingredients individually and metering them to Steve’s exact prescribed doses. This will take some slight tinkering and adding of Perfumers Alcohol but it isnt that difficult once you input the stuff into the calculator. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/30 "2010-10-14T04:25:26Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > The problem essentially is if you tell me to mix something and then you decide not to buy it from me after the fact then I’m stuck with something I do not want. This is why asking other users to mix for you isn’t very plausible. Your better off buying the ingredients individually and metering them to Steve’s exact prescribed doses. This will take some slight tinkering and adding of Perfumers Alcohol but it isnt that difficult once you input the stuff into the calculator. Well, I will just go with AMMO + IS + IH… good enough for me, heh ---
**Author:** ![Ftordces](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7feea3/32.png) [@Ftordces](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ftordces)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/31 "2010-10-14T04:26:52Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/future-pheromone-universe-i-seek-your-9175.html` > > This is ICM and this is how you make it. > All 30 mL bottles at the mcg listed > You must have an additional CLEAN NEW 30 ML bottle and individual pipettes for each molecule. You DO NOT reuse these! > > TAA ----\>30 mcg ----\>72 drops = 3.974 mcg per spray > BNOL ----\>30 mcg ----\>90 drops = 4.967 mcg per spray (ANOL can be sustituted if you choose) > P93 ----\>20 mcg ----\>48 drops = 1.766 mcg per spray > P74 ----\>30 mcg ----\>55 drops = 3.035 mcg per spray > NONE----\>30 mcg ----\>92 drops = 5.077 mcg per spray > TAC ----\>30 mcg ----\>96 drops = 5.298 mcg per spray > > TOTAL = 11.325 mL > (double drops if you like - tripling will not fit in bottle!) > > Make sure all your molecules are scented the same way. Do NOT REUSE pipettes or old empty bottles. Clean everything in the room with lysol. Ventilation is key. Wear rubber gloves and preferable if you have a mask. > > This is my PRIVATE mix and this is how I made it without any of the upgrades I put into it now. Yes it absolutely matters if you make it correctly. 48 drops means sitting there and dropping 48 times out of a pipette. 5.298 means 5.298 and not 5.25. There is a big difference. > > I will not release my oil mixes and I am not going to consult with anyone on how to mix by opening bottles. I must reemphasize this is my personal knowledge and has nothing to do with androtics\> am sharing it freely with you as a member of Pherotalk community and not as a representative in any official capacity. All risks you take are completely your own as with any damages you incur. This formula remains my property and is not to be shared anywhere else without my express written permission. Yes I really do mean that and yes I will go after you. > > Thanks and enjoy Thank you STEVE!!! I’m saving this one in my favorite spreadsheet.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/32 "2010-10-14T19:27:37Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Except pipettes.. Speaking of pipettes…anyone have some suggestions on where to find these locally? Of course ya’ll don’t live by me but what kind of store would have them? Pretty sure there’s not a chemical mixing supply store around here haha. I need some for some other things I want to do…😕 EDIT: I’m thinking the craft store. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/33 "2010-10-14T19:44:45Z")
> [@TheBoogieMan](#): > > Speaking of pipettes…anyone have some suggestions on where to find these locally? Of course ya’ll don’t live by me but what kind of store would have them? Pretty sure there’s not a chemical mixing supply store around here haha. I need some for some other things I want to do…😕 > > EDIT: I’m thinking the craft store. May have to go to a hobby shop and pick up some chemistry set accessories. ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/34 "2010-10-14T22:13:19Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > May have to go to a hobby shop and pick up some chemistry set accessories. Yeah, I called the craft store and they didn’t have them…there used to be another similar store that had more hobby stuff too but I think it closed. I can get 500 for like $20 😮 on Amazon so I might just do that. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 10:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/35 "2010-10-14T22:42:47Z")
> [@TheBoogieMan](#): > > Yeah, I called the craft store and they didn’t have them…there used to be another similar store that had more hobby stuff too but I think it closed. I can get 500 for like $20 😮 on Amazon so I might just do that. Are the drops going to be the same though? ---
**Author:** ![Onedzguy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/onedzguy/32/1382_2.png) [@Onedzguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Onedzguy)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/36 "2010-10-14T22:46:47Z")
Every now and then I use my e-cig. Here is one of my sources for pipettes. [Pipette -15 Assorted Pack](http://www.diyflavorshack.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Pipette-+15+Assorted+pack) I hope this helps. ODG ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/37 "2010-10-14T23:22:46Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Are the drops going to be the same though? Good point. Maybe someone with more chemistry experience (I hated that class lol) could answer that for both of us. They don’t have 3.5ml on Amazon but they do have 3ml. I’m not using them to make MX301 anyways as I don’t even have a majority of the ingredients and I think I’ll be able to do what I need based on milliliters instead of drops. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/38 "2010-10-14T23:27:54Z")
> [@TheBoogieMan](#): > > Good point. Maybe someone with more chemistry experience (I hated that class lol) could answer that for both of us. They don’t have 3.5ml on Amazon but they do have 3ml. > > I’m not using them to make MX301 anyways as I don’t even have a majority of the ingredients and I think I’ll be able to do what I need based on milliliters instead of drops. Since its drops and not ML specific I don’t know, I wouldn’t wanna mess up the ratios. I can’t even spray them on because they’re only dosed a specific way, plus with the 5% ± margin of error on sprays it won’t be as accurate. I’m just happy I got some MX301 left. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/39 "2010-10-15T00:00:37Z")
> [@TheBoogieMan](#): > > Good point. Maybe someone with more chemistry experience (I hated that class lol) could answer that for both of us. They don’t have 3.5ml on Amazon but they do have 3ml. > > I’m not using them to make MX301 anyways as I don’t even have a majority of the ingredients and I think I’ll be able to do what I need based on milliliters instead of drops. IF you really want an exact experience I’d say pick up 1-2 droppers from AD and count the drops yourself and see how it stacks against one that you buy so that if you want a really a recipe done really exact you can do it. What Mustang says about the 5 percent +/- can be an issue according to the degree of exactness Steve prescribes in his instructions because even a 30 mcg bottle can be + or - 1.5 mcgs and thats enough to throw things off on a drop mcg level. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/40 "2010-10-15T00:07:10Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > IF you really want an exact experience I’d say pick up 1-2 droppers from AD and count the drops yourself and see how it stacks against one that you buy so that if you want a really a recipe done really exact you can do it. > > What Mustang says about the 5 percent +/- can be an issue according to the degree of exactness Steve prescribes in his instructions because even a 30 mcg bottle can be + or - 1.5 mcgs and thats enough to throw things off on a drop mcg level. But the ratios should still be the same once its all composited. Finally outsmarted olfact! yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy 😃 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595.md?page=3)