# How to PROPERLY make ICM (MX301) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 13, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595 "2010-10-13T17:52:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/41 "2010-10-15T00:13:25Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > **IF you really want an exact experience I’d say pick up 1-2 droppers from AD and count the drops yourself and see how it stacks against one that you buy so that if you want a really a recipe done really exact you can do it.** > > What Mustang says about the 5 percent +/- can be an issue according to the degree of exactness Steve prescribes in his instructions because even a 30 mcg bottle can be + or - 1.5 mcgs and thats enough to throw things off on a drop mcg level. Great idea and definitely something I’ll try when their pipettes are back in stock. Like I said though, I’m not looking to make MX301 at this particular time and Steve himself said that Androtics did not use the same exactness in their mixing anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Vespero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vespero/32/988_2.png) [@Vespero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vespero)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/42 "2010-10-15T00:24:26Z")
MX310 was great, but if Steve is telling the truth about ICM 2.0, I’ll bet it’s worth the wait. I think I’ll wait to give that a shot before I order all the ingredients and try to make my own MX301. ---
**Author:** ![NIGHTistheNEWDAY](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nightisthenewday/32/2148_2.png) [@NIGHTistheNEWDAY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NIGHTistheNEWDAY)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/43 "2010-10-15T02:40:57Z")
> [@Vespero](#): > > MX310 was great, but if Steve is telling the truth about ICM 2.0, I’ll bet it’s worth the wait. I think I’ll wait to give that a shot before I order all the ingredients and try to make my own MX301. The truth? Steve never denies the truth and trust me, We can’t handle the truth! ---
**Author:** ![Scipio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Scipio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scipio)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/44 "2010-10-16T05:40:51Z")
Steve, dont take this the wrong way But I freakin love you. I used my last spray of mx301 today. ---
**Author:** ![ppHamelin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pphamelin/32/758_2.png) [@ppHamelin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ppHamelin)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 6:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/45 "2010-10-16T06:27:17Z")
Awesome Steve, thanks for this one. I know [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) is in it 🙂. I don’t get why they are not going to sell it again, sure we have the formula now but most people probably don’t want to get all the ingredients separately and mix it by their own. Let alone doing the mix properly…I guess I should use mine very carefully from now on then. Ok this is the only mix where I got girls moaning and heaving deep sigh as if they really want something they can’t have 😃. I don’t know about ICM 2.0 but I never got to try Mx302 which I heard is as lethal if not more so than 301…😉 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/46 "2010-10-16T17:19:14Z")
Thanks Steve for posting the ingredients and proper guidelines. I just ordered some more ingredients so I can make my alternative mix even if it’s just sprayed on the skin as was mentioned earlier in the thread. I will definitely be experimenting further with [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) in this kind of mix once I receive it … ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/47 "2010-10-16T18:47:39Z")
Great…now I have to try making actual MX301 as it was mass produced (which got me awesome results) and now the actual ICM as designed by Steve to compare. ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/48 "2010-10-16T20:18:45Z")
> [@ppHamelin](#): > > Awesome Steve, thanks for this one. I know P93 is in it 🙂. Thanks for sharing Steve. I’ve seen various posts on what [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) does for others. P93 was nicknamed “Caucasian Magic” on this board. I was wondering what the effects of P93 are in this mix. In your opinion does MX301 work on non caucasian women? ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/49 "2010-10-16T22:07:30Z")
> [@ppHamelin](#): > > Awesome Steve, thanks for this one. I know P93 is in it 🙂. Thanks for sharing Steve. I’ve seen various posts on what [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) does for others. P93 was nicknamed “Caucasian Magic” on this board. I was wondering what the effects of P93 are in this mix. In your opinion does MX301 work on non caucasian women? ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 10:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/50 "2010-10-16T22:09:20Z")
Double posting isn’t going to make him answer faster or at all if anything. Talk to him on the phone or shoot him a pm if your really interested. ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 4:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/51 "2010-10-17T04:08:40Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > Double posting isn’t going to make him answer faster or at all if anything. Talk to him on the phone or shoot him a pm if your really interested. LOL, I refreshed my browser and it posted again by accident 😮 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/52 "2010-10-17T15:37:12Z")
> [@paradox1](#): > > Thanks for sharing Steve. I’ve seen various posts on what P93 does for others. P93 was nicknamed “Caucasian Magic” on this board. > > I was wondering what the effects of P93 are in this mix. > > In your opinion does MX301 work on non caucasian women? MX301 and ICM have worked on many, many people according to many, many forum posts. I like the white girls and that’s what I go for. I am sure others on here, use it for other races. You would need to figure out who is what race and have them share. I know, but that’s up to them if they want to share that info with you. P93: I never read that it has been nicknamed caucasion magic on the forum. I’ve read most reports on it and never came across that. Can you shine some light then please. My intentions for P93 in this mix were set specifically to work on it on a comforting level in conjunction with the TAC and [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) without using A1. TAC, P74 and P93 have a female harmony amplifier going on, but I’ve also noticed when used with high levels of none, it can cause a gay vibe. Hence why it is the lowest mcg per spray of everything in the mix. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/53 "2010-10-17T16:44:51Z")
There were actually a few reports on it, many conflicting but enough reports that Jasmine posted a thread asking if it was a “racist” [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/). ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/54 "2010-10-17T16:57:49Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > P93: I never read that it has been nicknamed caucasion magic on the forum. I’ve read most reports on it and never came across that. Can you shine some light then please. [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-caucasian-attractant-or-the-first-known-racist-pheromone/12830) > [@P93: gay or attractant mone?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p93-gay-or-attractant-mone/42362): > > I am interested in ordering this putative next. It seems interesting. It is in Mx301 that I sometimes use. However, I read in many threads that it makes women think of you as GAY in somewhat high doses. In contrast, some guys say that it is a caucasian magic mone. I am wondering if p93 is similar to [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/). Girls become really close and friendly with you, because they feel some ‘femine,’ gayish vibe about you, and they don’t feel threatened and don’t mind letting their guards down and becoming … > [@Steve](#): > > My intentions for P93 in this mix were set specifically to work on it on a comforting level in conjunction with the TAC and P74 without using A1. TAC, P74 and P93 have a female harmony amplifier going on, but I’ve also noticed when used with high levels of none, it can cause a gay vibe. Hence why it is the lowest mcg per spray of everything in the mix. Thanks, Yes I’ve read that also. Now you have me wondering if A1 would be a better ingredient than [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/). If it weren’t for the depression it causes some men it probably would be a better fit. Good to hear the story and formula behind this mix. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/55 "2010-10-17T18:11:43Z")
Thanks for the links/feedback paradox and Rad. That’s rather interesting and now that you mention it I do recall reading what Jasmin wrote. I don’t base anything I do on race though, so I can’t really say matter-of-fact. Memphis is the most racially divided city I have ever lived in, and I’ve lived all over the world. I just don’t take it into consideration, so I guess in that aspect, I don’t look at it based on race type results. That’s not to say that members here are basing their results on race in a compartmentalized way. To me there is only one race, the human race, so I just don’t ever pay any attention to whether I get different results. Sorry I can’t help you on this paradox ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/56 "2010-10-17T18:29:01Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Sorry I can’t help you on this paradox Ok, no problem. Just waiting for your latest Mix ([Someone detonated the MOAB downtown Memphis, tonight!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/someone-detonated-the-moab-downtown-memphis-tonight/42664)) ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/57 "2010-10-17T19:52:21Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > ICM is old and outdated now. We want new members to come along and make new mixes. This is just for those die-hards who are not willing to mix anything for themselves. I don’t know about being unwilling to mix. I actually have a few idea’s of my own I might try in the future, but from my experience 301 was a perfect compliment to A314. The combination of Bnol, Tac, [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) and P93 created a very good comfort vibe that makes me wonder if it’s even worth it to try messing with A1. The healthy dose of none kept it masculine and sexual enough to avoid friend zoning. Plus it could be the 74 or the 93 or both but I noticed a great teamwork and cooperation vibe with the women I work with. Something nice about being the only guy at an office full of cooperative and borderline submissive women. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/58 "2010-10-17T20:35:03Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > I don’t know about being unwilling to mix. I actually have a few idea’s of my own I might try in the future, but from my experience 301 was a perfect compliment to A314. The combination of Bnol, Tac, P74 and P93 created a very good comfort vibe that makes me wonder if it’s even worth it to try messing with A1. The healthy dose of none kept it masculine and sexual enough to avoid friend zoning. Plus it could be the 74 or the 93 or both but I noticed a great teamwork and cooperation vibe with the women I work with. Something nice about being the only guy at an office full of cooperative and borderline submissive women. That’s definitely the P74 although the P93 certainly makes you the qualified ring leader. Like Warren has said every molecule and pheromone has its place. I never realized how harmful A-1 could be to other guys until I thought back when I wore it on outtings with my good friends while a few had there SO’s with them. I got along just fine with the SO’s but it really dampened the temperament with the guys though. There are ways around it but it just seems like so much accommodation for one little aspect. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/59 "2010-10-18T15:10:59Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > I don’t know about being unwilling to mix. I actually have a few idea’s of my own I might try in the future, but from my experience 301 was a perfect compliment to A314. The combination of Bnol, Tac, P74 and P93 created a very good comfort vibe that makes me wonder if it’s even worth it to try messing with A1. The healthy dose of none kept it masculine and sexual enough to avoid friend zoning. Plus it could be the 74 or the 93 or both but I noticed a great teamwork and cooperation vibe with the women I work with. Something nice about being the only guy at an office full of cooperative and borderline submissive women. Not everyone Rad, but yes there are many members here that will ask for mixes but never mix on their own. Maybe unwilling is used in the wrong context, but unwilling is better than incapable, which is not what I meant. I wasn’t using it to denote a negative connotation, just that some members are unwilling to mix. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/60 "2010-10-18T15:43:26Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > That’s definitely the P74 although the P93 certainly makes you the qualified ring leader. Like Warren has said every molecule and pheromone has its place. I never realized how harmful A-1 could be to other guys until I thought back when I wore it on outtings with my good friends while a few had there SO’s with them. I got along just fine with the SO’s but it really dampened the temperament with the guys though. There are ways around it but it just seems like so much accommodation for one little aspect. I’ve discovered, for me at least and this ICM stuff, that P93 softened the none considerably by adding a vibe of happy fun, mindless wheeee, spin around in circles on the playground merry go around, just sillyness in general. I used it from 15, 10, 5, 2.5 and everything in between in heavy none mixes and something in there does not agree with it. In every instance of testing it gave off this decidedly I am a gay man vibe. Several other users of ICM before it was even known to the forum all had the same experience. I really couldn’t get my head around it, so I must have tweaked this mix a gazillion times. It was back to the drawing board and started testing individual molecules on their own and then added one to the other. None was first and thankfully the first I added was P93 at the dose I wanted it at. The reaction was immediate and exactly as it had reacted before. Are you gay? So I lowered it in the mix and whalla found the best amount. Keep in mind I wear this mix at 6 sprays. _More may work for others and that’s what I meant above when Rad wrongfully jumped on me accusing me of malicious harmful intent, so worrisome my shoes fell off! Thats a joke RADMAN 😉._ I would love to read users, just like Rad has done to add in other ingredients and report back. That’s what I mean by many members are unwilling to even do that. If you have a mix that works great, make changes, tweak it, see if it gets worse or even better. I’m always adding and changing. My original statement about exact reproduction of the ICM mix to exactly replicate ICM. That’s why when a member asked about using the skin as his pallet I was all for it. You (in general terms meaning anyone) should! It’s encouraged, add some more of this, see how that works. The only thing I was getting across is that would not be ICM, that would then be YOUR mix. ICM is a precise mix, when you customize it it becomes your own. Make it your own. One thing I have also taken into consideration with P93 working in conjunction with the -none in ICM is that the vibe I initially was going for was a post-coital glow. On several occasions I had woman mentioning this to me too. Oddly enough it is the only mix where the results matched the avenue I was traveling. I believe the P93 just like P90 and P91 and several other in the early P90 range, might be some type of ALPHA female trait enhancers. I also do not like the A314 edition with P90, and I very much disliked [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) as both have been reported by me. The other night while testing a putative I came to the congruency conclusion that I was off congruency and therefore the results were skewed by my failure to not take this into consideration. So how exactly would I become congruent with an ALPHA female. I fought years of internal battles to overcome painful shyness, learning disabilities that isolated me, weight issues, self loathing, pity, doubt, all the things that every person experiences. It took years and still I fight everyday but I successfully overcame it and adapted to become the ALPHA male that I am today. So how do I regress and become something I am not, something that I fought to overcome, something that I loathe and help others overcome? Not so easy right? My opposition is that regardless how ALPHA a female is, she will never be as ALPHA as a male. Yes this is sexist and why wouldn’t it be. We are vastly different so it just makes sense. That’s why I have a difficult time dealing with test mixes like mx297 that in my eyes I see as a sign of weakness. It’s the only product that I have read so much about guys loving it, but no reports of a guy who has gotten laid off it without anything added to the mix. But, on that note, people should be testing and using other products. Amp up the P93, amp up the P90 and P91. Throw in TAH and TAL. I think its all great ideas and I’m all for it. Now go out an have fun, I’m going back to bed. Running a fever and feel like I have the flu. I hope I didn’t catch anything from this girl:o. No I don’t mean an STD! Wait I do mean STD, like I hope I didn’t catch an STD, Ahh my head hurts! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595.md?page=4)