# How to PROPERLY make ICM (MX301) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 13, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595 "2010-10-13T17:52:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/61 "2010-10-18T16:01:56Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I’ve discovered, for me at least and this ICM stuff, that P93 softened the none considerably by adding a vibe of happy fun, mindless wheeee, spin around in circles on the playground merry go around, just sillyness in general. I used it from 15, 10, 5, 2.5 and everything in between in heavy none mixes and something in there does not agree with it. In every instance of testing it gave off this decidedly I am a gay man vibe. Several other users of ICM before it was even known to the forum all had the same experience. I really couldn’t get my head around it, so I must have tweaked this mix a gazillion times. > > It was back to the drawing board and started testing individual molecules on their own and then added one to the other. None was first and thankfully the first I added was P93 at the dose I wanted it at. The reaction was immediate and exactly as it had reacted before. Are you gay? > > So I lowered it in the mix and whalla found the best amount. Keep in mind I wear this mix at 6 sprays. _More may work for others and that’s what I meant above when Rad wrongfully jumped on me accusing me of malicious harmful intent, so worrisome my shoes fell off! Thats a joke RADMAN 😉._ > > I would love to read users, just like Rad has done to add in other ingredients and report back. That’s what I mean by many members are unwilling to even do that. If you have a mix that works great, make changes, tweak it, see if it gets worse or even better. I’m always adding and changing. > > My original statement about exact reproduction of the ICM mix to exactly replicate ICM. That’s why when a member asked about using the skin as his pallet I was all for it. You (in general terms meaning anyone) should! It’s encouraged, add some more of this, see how that works. The only thing I was getting across is that would not be ICM, that would then be YOUR mix. ICM is a precise mix, when you customize it it becomes your own. Make it your own. > > One thing I have also taken into consideration with P93 working in conjunction with the -none in ICM is that the vibe I initially was going for was a post-coital glow. On several occasions I had woman mentioning this to me too. Oddly enough it is the only mix where the results matched the avenue I was traveling. I believe the P93 just like P90 and P91 and several other in the early P90 range, might be some type of ALPHA female trait enhancers. I also do not like the A314 edition with P90, and I very much disliked MX297 as both have been reported by me. The other night while testing a putative I came to the congruency conclusion that I was off congruency and therefore the results were skewed by my failure to not take this into consideration. > > So how exactly would I become congruent with an ALPHA female. I fought years of internal battles to overcome painful shyness, learning disabilities that isolated me, weight issues, self loathing, pity, doubt, all the things that every person experiences. It took years and still I fight everyday but I successfully overcame it and adapted to become the ALPHA male that I am today. So how do I regress and become something I am not, something that I fought to overcome, something that I loathe and help others overcome? Not so easy right? > > My opposition is that regardless how ALPHA a female is, she will never be as ALPHA as a male. Yes this is sexist and why wouldn’t it be. We are vastly different so it just makes sense. That’s why I have a difficult time dealing with test mixes like mx297 that in my eyes I see as a sign of weakness. It’s the only product that I have read so much about guys loving it, but no reports of a guy who has gotten laid off it without anything added to the mix. But, on that note, people should be testing and using other products. Amp up the P93, amp up the P90 and P91. Throw in TAH and TAL. I think its all great ideas and I’m all for it. > > Now go out an have fun, I’m going back to bed. Running a fever and feel like I have the flu. I hope I didn’t catch anything from this girl:o. No I don’t mean an STD! Wait I do mean STD, like I hope I didn’t catch an STD, Ahh my head hurts! Thanks Steve Feel better ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/62 "2010-10-18T20:52:39Z")
> [@The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/46): > > I need to play with P83 a bit more after my MX203 phero-hiatus. If i can get MX203 (P93+fragrance only, right?) to work on redheads as well as other Caucasians my work will be done. > [@The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/51): > > 1. Tater is convinced that MX203 was created by the Klan. It attracts Caucasian women like piranha to a wounded hippopotamus but it makes non-Caucasians sick. Just to quote one of our best researchers (MadisonTate). P93 aka [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/) aka “Caucasian magic” is probably the reason that MX301 was not universally effective. In my tests I would get DIHL’s but I would also get one word replies to my questions. I was wondering why this formula worked for Steve and others but not for me.After re reviewing the formula I suspected the P93. After even more research I was sure of my suspicions. I believe that the formula _sans_ the P93 is solid. I believe the one word answers that I received from the women in my tests were the result of a confusing or poor or incongruous phero signature. In other words the P93 throws off the mix for non caucasian women. I see Steve’s logic in using it as it fit in as a good substitute for IFM or A1. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 11:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/63 "2010-10-18T23:40:22Z")
> [@paradox1](#): > > Just to quote one of our best researchers (MadisonTate). P93 aka MX203 aka “Caucasian magic” is probably the reason that MX301 was not universally effective. In my tests I would get DIHL’s but I would also get one word replies to my questions. > > I was wondering why this formula worked for Steve and others but not for me.After re reviewing the formula I suspected the P93. After even more research I was sure of my suspicions. > > I believe that the formula _sans_ the P93 is solid. I believe the one word answers that I received from the women in my tests were the result of a confusing or poor or incongruous phero signature. In other words the P93 throws off the mix for non caucasian women. > > I see Steve’s logic in using it as it fit in as a good substitute for IFM or A1. Actually Tater was not 100% on that because Jasmin posted the recipe for [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/) right here: [Behind the Scenes -- MX Formula Cheat Sheets - #3 by Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/behind-the-scenes-mx-formula-cheat-sheets/37364/3) By that very logic P93 was high and none was very low. I would say this actually supports my theory more. Not to mention that MX301 was actually more consistent with more users than MX203 ever was. The reports substantiate this. I still have a half of 30 ml MX203 because I could never get results from it. I actually had many calls of those members who could never get the same results. I wonder 😉 ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 12:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/64 "2010-10-19T00:06:37Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Actually Tater was not 100% on that because Jasmin posted the recipe for MX203 right here: [Behind the Scenes -- MX Formula Cheat Sheets - #3 by Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/behind-the-scenes-mx-formula-cheat-sheets/37364/3) > > By that very logic P93 was high and none was very low. I would say this actually supports my theory more. Not to mention that MX301 was actually more consistent with more users than MX203 ever was. The reports substantiate this. I still have a half of 30 ml MX203 because I could never get results from it. I actually had many calls of those members who could never get the same results. I wonder 😉 Thanks for the link. I’m still really stumped as to why MX301 would not work for me. Now you have me wondering why [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) did not work for you. ---
**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/65 "2010-10-19T02:23:16Z")
lol ummm…what would the best way to purchase all of this? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/66 "2010-10-19T02:32:45Z")
> [@paradox1](#): > > Just to quote one of our best researchers (MadisonTate). P93 aka MX203 aka “Caucasian magic” is probably the reason that MX301 was not universally effective. In my tests I would get DIHL’s but I would also get one word replies to my questions. > > I was wondering why this formula worked for Steve and others but not for me.After re reviewing the formula I suspected the P93. After even more research I was sure of my suspicions. > > I believe that the formula _sans_ the P93 is solid. I believe the one word answers that I received from the women in my tests were the result of a confusing or poor or incongruous phero signature. In other words the P93 throws off the mix for non caucasian women. > > I see Steve’s logic in using it as it fit in as a good substitute for IFM or A1. For me, caucasian magic is a lot of ammo or a bit of A314 with some -none. However, I tend to get attention from all kinds of girls, including blacks, lol ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/67 "2010-10-19T13:42:49Z")
> [@paradox1](#): > > Thanks for the link. I’m still really stumped as to why MX301 would not work for me. Now you have me wondering why MX203 did not work for you. > [@CoolKatDC](#): > > For me, caucasian magic is a lot of ammo or a bit of A314 with some -none. However, I tend to get attention from all kinds of girls, including blacks, lol What race are you guys and what were your results with [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) (if ever used) and MX301? I have my suspicions why one would work for one and the other not so.😉 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/68 "2010-10-19T16:01:57Z")
I’m half Mexican and half Irish, never had a chance to use 203, but 301 worked with both Latin and Caucasian women. And as I said it seemed to work better on younger ones than older women (though I did get some success there but not with the same consistency) ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 4:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/69 "2010-10-19T16:04:12Z")
> [@paradox1](#): > > Thanks for the link. I’m still really stumped as to why MX301 would not work for me. Now you have me wondering why MX203 did not work for you. MX301 does everything except the Fred Astaire.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/70 "2010-10-19T16:56:27Z")
> [@MVKBUGATTI](#): > > MX301 does everything except the Fred Astaire.🙂 Actually I have better than that: My GAP mix which is my Gables a Plenty as in Clark Gable. Really rocks and is just damn good stuff 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/71 "2010-10-19T19:43:46Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Actually I have better than that: My GAP mix which is my Gables a Plenty as in Clark Gable. Really rocks and is just damn good stuff 😉 Oh My, lol 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/72 "2010-10-19T19:50:55Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > I’m half Mexican and half Irish, never had a chance to use 203, but 301 worked with both Latin and Caucasian women. And as I said it seemed to work better on younger ones than older women (though I did get some success there but not with the same consistency) I believe MX301 has no boundaries, and that it crosses all racial divides. If anything it highlights your interests. And as many of us know, its the young ladies delight. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/73 "2010-10-19T20:48:57Z")
> [@MVKBUGATTI](#): > > I believe MX301 has no boundaries, and that it crosses all racial divides. If anything it highlights your interests. And as many of us know, its the young ladies delight. I asked because Jasmin posted about p93 and Paradox brought it up. I’m seeing a trend that non-Caucasians can use it and get white women, but Caucasians who use it get a gay vibe. Interesting! ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/74 "2010-10-19T21:03:15Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I asked because Jasmin posted about p93 and Paradox brought it up. I’m seeing a trend that non-Caucasians can use it and get white women, but Caucasians who use it get a gay vibe. Interesting! I think it makes it easier. I had situations when Caucasian girls seem to react so much more positively to it than non-caucasian girls do. I’ve paired it with IG and A314 with great results. It was just some of the most blatant hits I’ve gotten lately I’m not Caucasian either. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/75 "2010-10-19T21:21:46Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > What race are you guys and what were your results with MX203 (if ever used) and MX301? > > I have my suspicions why one would work for one and the other not so.😉 What suspicion? I have never used Mx203, lol. Will it ever be in stock again? ---
**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/76 "2010-10-20T02:12:56Z")
[quote=“Steve”] `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/future-pheromone-universe-i-seek-your-9175.html` This is ICM and this is how you make it. All 30 mL bottles at the mcg listed You must have an additional CLEAN NEW 30 ML bottle and individual pipettes for each molecule. You DO NOT reuse these! TAA ----\>30 mcg ----\>72 drops = 3.974 mcg per spray BNOL ----\>30 mcg ----\>90 drops = 4.967 mcg per spray (ANOL can be sustituted if you choose) P93 ----\>20 mcg ----\>48 drops = 1.766 mcg per spray P74 ----\>30 mcg ----\>55 drops = 3.035 mcg per spray NONE----\>30 mcg ----\>92 drops = 5.077 mcg per spray TAC ----\>30 mcg ----\>96 drops = 5.298 mcg per spray TOTAL = 11.325 mL (double drops if you like - tripling will not fit in bottle!) Not to sound silly at all, but in a estimate how much do you think it would cost to do this mix? (and how many sprays could you get out of it?) This is beginning to fascinate me more and more the more I read this thread!!! ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 2:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/77 "2010-10-20T02:27:35Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I asked because Jasmin posted about p93 and Paradox brought it up. I’m seeing a trend that non-Caucasians can use it and get white women, but Caucasians who use it get a gay vibe. Interesting! Hmm interesting. I can say that I do not like [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) in doses over 15mcgs.. can’t really put a finger on why. It does produce some nasty self effects on myself though, but I don’t see any positive results with it in high doses. I think it is better as a steering molecule personally, which is why I am using it in low doses in the mix I am trying out(which produced some positive results on the first trial run! Report in my journal!). I am white, and have not noticed a gay vibe when wearing around white women, but then again I can’t tell what they are thinking all of the time. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/78 "2010-10-20T02:54:15Z")
Could p93 make one “seem” lighter? I am thinking p93 works well with tanned or darker guys in attracting light-skinned girls. Think about it; even Italians, Spanish and Greeks are much darker-toned than Skane peeps. Maybe, p93 helps them “appear” lighter; therefore, it makes them seem more attractive to those nordic girls. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/79 "2010-10-20T02:56:27Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > Could p93 make one “seem” lighter? I am thinking p93 works well with tanned or darker guys in attracting light-skinned girls. Think about it; even Italians, Spanish and Greeks are much darker-toned than Skane peeps. Maybe, p93 helps them “appear” lighter; therefore, it makes them seem more attractive to those nordic girls. 🙂 Weird theory. I am Italian and darker skinned than most people around me.. it could make sense. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/80 "2010-10-20T03:11:01Z")
[quote=“samuraitea”] > [@Steve](#): > > `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/future-pheromone-universe-i-seek-your-9175.html` > > This is ICM and this is how you make it. > All 30 mL bottles at the mcg listed > You must have an additional CLEAN NEW 30 ML bottle and individual pipettes for each molecule. You DO NOT reuse these! > > TAA ----\>30 mcg ----\>72 drops = 3.974 mcg per spray > BNOL ----\>30 mcg ----\>90 drops = 4.967 mcg per spray (ANOL can be sustituted if you choose) > P93 ----\>20 mcg ----\>48 drops = 1.766 mcg per spray > P74 ----\>30 mcg ----\>55 drops = 3.035 mcg per spray > NONE----\>30 mcg ----\>92 drops = 5.077 mcg per spray > TAC ----\>30 mcg ----\>96 drops = 5.298 mcg per spray > > TOTAL = 11.325 mL > (double drops if you like - tripling will not fit in bottle!) > > Not to sound silly at all, but in a estimate how much do you think it would cost to do this mix? (and how many sprays could you get out of it?) This is beginning to fascinate me more and more the more I read this thread!!! Close to 500 bucks [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595.md?page=5)