# How to PROPERLY make ICM (MX301) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 13, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595 "2010-10-13T17:52:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 3:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/81 "2010-10-20T03:21:57Z")
… ☹ guess I will not be using ICM any time in the near future! F..M..L… ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/82 "2010-10-20T03:29:19Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > Weird theory. I am Italian and darker skinned than most people around me.. it could make sense. Are you into “darker” girls like Italians and SPanish? Do you go for them? Maybe, those girls don’t appreciate REAL “whities” - they might think light, soft, hairless skin is more feminine, lol ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 3:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/83 "2010-10-20T03:43:08Z")
This really is all conjecture though. There has to be a deeper reasoning to why P93 works the way it does in conjunction to ethnicities. I was even attracting some black women while using ICM and that downright never happens to me because IME black women from the states particularly wouldn’t normally find any asian guy attractive as least in my neck of the woods. But ICM isn’t just P93 so its kind of a moot point to say something without considering the rest of the molecules in there. [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/) has over 8 times the shot of P93 with a nil amount of none in the nanogram arena. MX301 has 32 times the enone that MX203 has. MX203 fails in the respect that it doesnt have a healthy dose of any of main 3 except nol which can’t carry the mix by itself. I’ve used TAC/TAA/P74 along with some none but without the P93. There is a obvious synergy that P93 brings to the table that gives the mix its identity that can’t be denied. To me the P93 is the instigator, TAC/P74/TAA is the party and the enone is the tone/vibe. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/84 "2010-10-20T03:51:33Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > **This really is all conjecture though. There has to be a deeper reasoning to why P93 works the way it does in conjunction to ethnicities. I was even attracting some black women while using ICM and that downright never happens to me because IME black women from the states particularly wouldn’t normally find any asian guy attractive as least in my neck of the woods.** I think you are wrong on this. Mones HELP and sometimes CAUSE black women to be attracted to me- even ones that are tall, skinny (6ft) and look like Alicia Keys. I SERIOUSLY doubt those women would be into me without mones. I had not seen it, before using mones. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/85 "2010-10-20T03:59:19Z")
I won’t get mad considering you read my message wrong 😉 But you are entitled to your opinion nevertheless on how you perceived my typing. I was saying that normally I wouldn’t attract that sort of attention but in the case of mones I do. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/86 "2010-10-20T04:03:41Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > I won’t get mad considering you read my message wrong 😉 But you are entitled to your opinion nevertheless on how you perceived my typing. > > I was saying that normally I wouldn’t attract that sort of attention but in the case of mones I do. my bad 😉 Are you sure it is only with MX301? AMMO seems to do it too 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 4:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/87 "2010-10-20T04:10:34Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > Could p93 make one “seem” lighter? I am thinking p93 works well with tanned or darker guys in attracting light-skinned girls. Think about it; even Italians, Spanish and Greeks are much darker-toned than Skane peeps. Maybe, p93 helps them “appear” lighter; therefore, it makes them seem more attractive to those nordic girls. 🙂 I’m not sure why but it seems that most guys who have reported good results with [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/) were non-Caucasian. I’m going to start a poll to guage. > [@Maidenfan01](#): > > Weird theory. I am Italian and darker skinned than most people around me.. it could make sense. You are still Caucasian though. By your own admission this actually adds to my theory. You can’t use a lot of P93 > [@](#): > > Hmm interesting. I can say that I do not like [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) in doses over 15mcgs.. which is precisely what I am saying here. 😉 > [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > This really is all conjecture though. There has to be a deeper reasoning to why P93 works the way it does in conjunction to ethnicities. I was even attracting some black women while using ICM and that downright never happens to me because IME black women from the states particularly wouldn’t normally find any asian guy attractive as least in my neck of the woods. > > But ICM isn’t just P93 so its kind of a moot point to say something without considering the rest of the molecules in there. MX203 has over 8 times the shot of P93 with a nil amount of none in the nanogram arena. MX301 has 32 times the enone that MX203 has. MX203 fails in the respect that it doesnt have a healthy dose of any of main 3 except nol which can’t carry the mix by itself. I’ve used TAC/TAA/P74 along with some none but without the P93. There is a obvious synergy that P93 brings to the table that gives the mix its identity that can’t be denied. To me the P93 is the instigator, TAC/P74/TAA is the party and the enone is the tone/vibe. Have you tried MX203 O A? I’m curious what your results would have been with it. How about plain old P93? Results. The asian population in Memphis is not that big and they do not hang out like in NYC or Berkeley where I lived for years. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 5:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/88 "2010-10-20T05:07:01Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > my bad 😉 Are you sure it is only with MX301? AMMO seems to do it too 😃 With most girls spanning from indian, spanish, white, and sometimes asian girls as well ammo vibe is fine for me. The masculinity is there and they certainly appreciate that. With black women though its different. I may me the Ammo man but it doesnt change the fact that I’m asian in about 90 percent of the cases where I deal with and converse with black women. Some girls really need an incentive to get past the social stigma that goes with my kind and being with my kind. MX301 makes me more agreeable across the chart at least in my belief. I’m not saying all black women were suddenly into me but it bumped up my percentage to 25-30 percent of my highest ethnicity average which is latinas at around 80-85 percent generally speaking. > [@Steve](#): > > I’m not sure why but it seems that most guys who have reported good results with MX203 were non-Caucasian. I’m going to start a poll to guage. > > You are still Caucasian though. By your own admission this actually adds to my theory. You can’t use a lot of P93 which is precisely what I am saying here. 😉 > > Have you tried MX203 O A? I’m curious what your results would have been with it. How about plain old P93? Results. The asian population in Memphis is not that big and they do not hang out like in NYC or Berkeley where I lived for years. Made it up in the 3 bottles because the mcg shots were so freaking high lol. Never got around to testing it although I wanted to get MX350 at the time but I was focused on other things. P93 6-20 mcgs I get aura around me. I wouldnt call it respect though from men and women its more of a acknowledgement in a male sort of way. Women acted a little odd though. Women normally don’t have issues showing me interest because I’m very open and inviting since even if it doesnt show on my face I have very soft facial features and eyes that women find alluring (my eyes are like my only attractive feature on my body although I have full lips for a dude dunno if that counts for much haha). Women showed me this sort of meek attentiveness. They let their eyes and shyness speak as interest cues to me but very subtle though. I don’t really get P93 in the sense that it seems socially hostile in a sense that it makes women less comfortable with me and I have to try harder if a meet a girl on the run. I think P93 as its not intimidating like that of P75 nor dominating/ predominantly sexual as of enone P93 to me is just “pompous”. I know its not a great explanation but the sort of reception I get is this sort of “I have my nose in the air and I’m masculine to boot” I like P93 purely for its untainted maleness. It doesn’t communicate it the virility way or the dark vindictive way as I’m coming to understand with P75. P93 to me has nothing to prove. He knows who he is and whether or not people see him in the proper light of his making he will continue through it all with dignity and grace. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 5:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/89 "2010-10-20T05:13:52Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > This really is all conjecture though. There has to be a deeper reasoning to why P93 works the way it does in conjunction to ethnicities. I was even attracting some black women while using ICM and that downright never happens to me because IME black women from the states particularly wouldn’t normally find any asian guy attractive as least in my neck of the woods. > > But ICM isn’t just P93 so its kind of a moot point to say something without considering the rest of the molecules in there. MX203 has over 8 times the shot of P93 with a nil amount of none in the nanogram arena. MX301 has 32 times the enone that MX203 has. MX203 fails in the respect that it doesnt have a healthy dose of any of main 3 except nol which can’t carry the mix by itself. I’ve used TAC/TAA/P74 along with some none but without the P93. There is a obvious synergy that P93 brings to the table that gives the mix its identity that can’t be denied. To me the P93 is the instigator, TAC/P74/TAA is the party and the enone is the tone/vibe. I agree completely. I think its the combo of P93+ [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) that really seems to be what is synergistic, I’ve said that before too. I think they steer the mix into the almost crushy vibe it sends out, and the TAC/NONE/TAA give it that sexual push that the mix most certainly has. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/90 "2010-10-20T05:17:03Z")
Well I don’t know about the racial aspect of P93, but as I’ve said numerous times 301 (as many as three sprays) seems to work wonders with younger girls (ranging from 25 to young enough to get me into trouble) and while it worked with women above that age, it wasn’t as consistent or obvious as it was with the younger ones. Now I’ve had several theories about this. First off being that the buffers in MX301 lend themselves so well to the dreamy romantic type of mindset that younger women have it’s like instant boyfriend material, which compliments the high status vibe of a high rone signal like A314 or IG. When I use it it’s not like my age (being 38 and gaming a 22 year old) becomes a non issue, but more like my being older becomes one of the main qualities they’re attracted to. Now, to the P93. You say that the vibe of P93 is almost like an alpha FEmale type of vibe. Well I’m thinking that not only would the feminine aspects of a molecule help to buffer the high none content of MX301…but an ALPHA female signal might activate some sort of bicurious tendencies that might be latent in some women. feminine enough to buffer the none, but still strong enough to be dominant in a relationship with a woman. Now since Caucasian women by my experience are more likely to experiment with bisexual or lesbian tendencies (socially it’s more acceptable than among more conservative and traditionally raised ethic groups). My age possibly enhances the alpha vibe but I’m not sure. As to races, well I’m curious as to how Asian men experience it. Since black and latino men tend to produce more none naturally maybe the none buffers the feminine vibe of P93 but men that produce less none (Caucasians and more so Asians) maybe the P93 overpowers the masculine vibe of the none. It’s like a little touch of femininity enhances the masculine vibe but if you don’t have enough masculine vibe to begin with it overpowers and creates a vibe that raises questions. I don’t know, just thinking out loud…all I know is I LIKE younger women and MX301 works way better for me at getting them than Ammo does and I want more dammit. I don’t care if it has a bit of a fem vibe too it…whatever the fuck works yanno. ---
**Author:** ![ppHamelin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pphamelin/32/758_2.png) [@ppHamelin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ppHamelin)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 6:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/91 "2010-10-21T06:49:13Z")
My best hits with Mx301 were with girls around 27-33 years old. It sort of works almost like a blend of Ammo/IG. It gave out the James Bond aura sort of. But you do need to keep it tight otherwise they’ll lose interest pretty fast. It’s not an attactive mone, it sort of, you’re the badass, most confident guy here, show me what you got type of hit. As to races, the most blatant hits I got were from Asian Americans but they all grew up here. ---
**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/92 "2010-10-22T17:45:44Z")
Umm, Random…How much did mx301 cost for a to go! and for a regular bottle…AND does anyone have anything that they are willing to sell? 😃 … ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/93 "2010-10-22T18:01:56Z")
> [@samuraitea](#): > > Umm, Random…How much did mx301 cost for a to go! and for a regular bottle…AND does anyone have anything that they are willing to sell? 😃 … $28 for to go and never available any bigger. Stick with all the great new stuff 😉. This one ran its course a long time ago. Also on a BIG side note, one thing that is being taken into consideration as a HUGE factor is whether our new members looking to garner the coveted Reporting User Status are experimenting and taken the path less traveled. We are looking for those members willing to trail-blaze and make a new path, rather than jump on the bandwagon, especially after the band has long ago moved on. There are so many new molecules and many putatives that have little to no reporting on that are available. There are brand new mixes in the store 😉. ---
**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/94 "2010-10-22T18:27:12Z")
Thanks Steve! lol I will start a new path! Just for me 😛 (and all of you) ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/95 "2010-10-22T19:26:13Z")
> [@samuraitea](#): > > Umm, Random…How much did mx301 cost for a to go! and for a regular bottle…AND does anyone have anything that they are willing to sell? 😃 … I know how it feels to want a mix and not be able to try it. I know of some people here but go to the lounge, I think some people are selling MX301. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/96 "2010-10-22T20:03:10Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I know how it feels to want a mix and not be able to try it. > > I know of some people here but go to the lounge, I think some people are selling MX301. Yes and when he starts reporting on it and none of those reports are taken into consideration for RU status, I will send him to you to explain why he isn’t qualified 😮. Trouble maker!😉 ---
**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/97 "2010-10-22T20:29:32Z")
LOL hey I understand I am new, and I know you need to deserve rights and a certain amount of credit before you can honestly get to do the fun stuff. And it just so happens I am will to work for my status 😉 Just need a little bit more social time and MONEY! 😮 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/98 "2010-10-22T21:34:01Z")
> [@samuraitea](#): > > LOL hey I understand I am new, and I know you need to deserve rights and a certain amount of credit before you can honestly get to do the fun stuff. And it just so happens I am will to work for my status 😉 Just need a little bit more social time and MONEY! 😮 Remember who the trouble maker is though! ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/99 "2010-10-22T21:37:06Z")
Get the hell outta here! I don’t make too much trouble. Only when I wear IJ ---
**Author:** ![fbh1989](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/59ef9b/32.png) [@fbh1989](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fbh1989)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595/100 "2010-11-29T21:52:22Z")
I was looking into making this mix and looked up what the “average” volume of a drop is, which many sources say is 20 drops/ml. According to the mix below, there are a total of 453 drops used, which would equal 22.65mL, not the 11.325mL you mentioned below. Was that an error, or is the drop size you used different because of the differences in physical properties of the pheros versus something like water? I’m just wondering so I can get a rough estimate of the volume of each component used. [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) ----\>30 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) ----\>72 drops = 3.974 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) per spray Beta Androstenol ----\>30 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) ----\>90 drops = 4.967 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) per spray ( [ANOL](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) can be sustituted if you choose) [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) ----\>20 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) ----\>48 drops = 1.766 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) per spray [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) ----\>30 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) ----\>55 drops = 3.035 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) per spray NONE----\>30 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) ----\>92 drops = 5.077 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) per spray [TAC](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-c/) ----\>30 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) ----\>96 drops = 5.298 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) per spray TOTAL = 11.325 mL (double drops if you like - tripling will not fit in bottle!) [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595.md?page=4) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595.md?page=6)