# How to use mones if Ugly? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 21, 2010, 9:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977 "2010-08-21T09:23:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/41 "2010-08-21T22:54:50Z")
First of all, do not stand around him (ie. holding up a beer can and checking out girls). Go ACTIVELY talk and meet women yourself; go introduce yourself. Be friendly and easy-going. Flirt and even tease, at opportune times. If he comes near you all the time, go away from him for a bit. Women WILL notice that IT IS YOU that is arousing and elevating their emotions (with the help of mones, of course šŸ˜‰ Also, TUTH heat comes off too much, when meeting ladies for the first time. So, I would go with something 2x AMMO + 1x TUTH + 2x IS + 3 IHā€¦ IH would let girls know that the feeling of connection emanates ONLY from you. They really feel great if they find intimate emotional connection; it is almost akin to you getting a sneak peak at a girl at a strip bar. Thanks TISHA! she recommended me to use IH, and it has added a new element to my attraction šŸ˜‰ Personally, I think she digs IH, lol Also, even if you are less than stellar in the look department, you can always improve and get better. Go work-out. Get nice, fshinable clothes and start wearing them neatly. Go find some nice hair-style that would suit you and make you look better. Last but not least, be confident and go with whatever attitude. If you pick up someone great, if not, oh well. It makes things easier and simpler. ---
**Author:** ![thundercat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thundercat/32/2345_2.png) [@thundercat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thundercat)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2010, 12:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/42 "2010-08-22T00:19:45Z")
LOL donā€™t worry beauty is in the eye of the beholder, Obese girl dating mags being the prime example. You see, to some people you will always look ugly and to others you will be fairly good looking. This is what i have learned from life, I consider myself to be very good looking heck i even used to do modeling when i was younger before all my friends scorned me for it and have had women obsess over me in the past yet iā€™ve had some females tell me i look like a rat, others say im ugly as hell, Funny that. Looks is purely based on social conditioning, Do you like skinny girls if so then you yourself have been socially conditioned into believeing that slim is the female archtype of beauty. Goto countrys in africa and men look down upon slim females and love bigger women as its a sign of status and health. So donā€™t worry im sure youā€™re a good looking person you just need to come out of your shell šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![HellzDuDe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hellzdude/32/359_2.png) [@HellzDuDe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HellzDuDe)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/43 "2010-08-22T00:44:52Z")
Protip: Dont use eHarmony.. I swear.. dude.. omfg.. Iā€™m not into bigger women, and thats ALL they matched me with even though I said it wasnt ok. Iā€™d hate to see what theyā€™d hand me if I said it was ok. I almost threw up after I saw 90% of those girls. I shouldave bought more mones instead of wasting 60$ there. I feel cheated. ---
**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/44 "2010-08-22T14:55:35Z")
BOYS: has better chances, than girls If girl got an ugly face, you wonā€™t have a chance with her, because girls are all about looks, NOTHING ELSE! (but wastes your money šŸ˜›) Just forget about your look, move on, you cannot change it (like P51 said) look forward, and search the good things deep inside you, you may find yourself cool, funny And guess what, everyone gets the chance of getting laid, you are not ā€œeveryoneā€ā€¦ donā€™t follow a road that everyone takes, to be happy, have your own road.. you are special, thinks are good about you, that you cannot realize because there is barriers that seems be blocking your head from the truthā€¦ And they are not true barriers, they are just fakeā€¦ just to stress you out ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2010, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/45 "2010-08-22T23:15:15Z")
> [@PheroJack](#): > > BOYS: has better chances, than girls > If girl got an ugly face, you wonā€™t have a chance with her, because girls are all about looks, NOTHING ELSE! (but wastes your money šŸ˜›) I used to think this was the truth. Girls may be about looks, but its much more subtle and deeper than that. Theyā€™re more about the overall image a guy has and not just a six pack, or chiseled features. If you drip confidence, and look nice as in youā€™re well groomed, nice shirt, pants, shoes etc. and you donā€™t say something stupid, youā€™ve got a pretty good shot. A PUA here in town, Iā€™m going to paraphrase what he said the other night, but it was along the lines of, ā€œevery girl wants to fuck you, until you do something to fuck it up.ā€ Now ā€œevery girl,ā€ may not be true, but the part about you fucking it up sure isā€¦LOL. ---
**Author:** ![masu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@masu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/masu)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 6:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/46 "2010-08-23T06:47:09Z")
Have any of you ever seen the show Keys to the VIP? Itā€™s one of my favorite shows about game, I find it really funny and entertaining also. But even in that show, where the guys are showing off their PUA and gaming skills, you can literally see the differences between how women react to the guys who are less good looking. In this one episode, this guy Kyle (who even I admit is hot, and Iā€™m not gay) has to get a womanā€™s number in under 1 minute. He just goes up to a girl and says ā€˜Thereā€™s an emergency right now and I gotta go, but can I get ur number real quick?ā€™. She replies ā€˜of course! ur so beautiful.ā€™ and he gets the number. While the less good looking guy had to go through all this BS pretending to be deaf to get the #. Itā€™s a good series and does help you with pointers on your game and funny as hell, so check it out on Youtube. But the main point was to show the extreme contrast between how the good looking guys hit on women and how the less good looking ones do it. And that doesnā€™t even include just straight up ugly guys. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 8:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/47 "2010-08-23T08:01:18Z")
Hey Masu, just making sure you saw this, because I want to make sure I hook you up with IJ - Iā€™m real curious if it works in your situation: > [@How to use mones if Ugly?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/31): > > Masu, In fact next time you place an order email me at [jslavalle@androtics.com](mailto:jslavalle@androtics.com) and I will make sure Jacob throws in a free bottle of IJ for you so you can see if it steals back the attention from him. Time to even the playing field wink wink wink ---
**Author:** ![masu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@masu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/masu)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 8:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/48 "2010-08-23T08:55:46Z")
hey John, Iā€™ll definitely try out some IJ in the future, but my next order is going to be sometime at the end of september, not before. I still havenā€™t even received my AMMO whcih i ordered on august 3rd. Iā€™ll be sure to test the IJ out for you when i get it though. i also think itā€™d help a lot. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/49 "2010-08-23T17:25:07Z")
> [@masu](#): > > Have any of you ever seen the show Keys to the VIP? > > Itā€™s one of my favorite shows about game, I find it really funny and entertaining also. > > But even in that show, where the guys are showing off their PUA and gaming skills, you can literally see the differences between how women react to the guys who are less good looking. > > In this one episode, this guy Kyle (who even I admit is hot, and Iā€™m not gay) has to get a womanā€™s number in under 1 minute. He just goes up to a girl and says ā€˜Thereā€™s an emergency right now and I gotta go, but can I get ur number real quick?ā€™. She replies ā€˜of course! ur so beautiful.ā€™ and he gets the number. While the less good looking guy had to go through all this BS pretending to be deaf to get the #. > > Itā€™s a good series and does help you with pointers on your game and funny as hell, so check it out on Youtube. But the main point was to show the extreme contrast between how the good looking guys hit on women and how the less good looking ones do it. And that doesnā€™t even include just straight up ugly guys. Yeah studies have been shown that good looking people get better treatment. Studies also have shown that has been true for white people too. But at the end of the day, where you end up has more to do with your choices and how you are reacting to overall situations. We have to eliminate as many excuses from our lives, because more often than not, you are the one creating the outcome that justifies your excuses. Example: Person has some confidence issues. Hangs out with bud he feels is superior to him because of looks, money, better job, car, whatever. So when person hangs out with bud he acts confident but inner issues and feelings of lack cause incongruency. People men and women pick this up in body language, tonality, mannerisms, speed of speech so they react accordingly. Person walks away feeling as though his expected outcome is justified, now compounds the issue when he goes out into the world again because he has more ā€œproofā€ to draw from. Your buddy may be depressed and acting all emo, for some girls especially ones who want to dominate a relationship, this is what the think they are looking for. In the end it wonā€™t last as they find themselves wanting more out of a guy. You may be the lively more entertaining one. Maybe your inneer issues causing congruency issues make this seem too try hard and you come across as approval seeking, and for lack of a better phrase as a dancing monkey. When youā€™re trouble shooting a problem whether its a mechanical one whatever, sometimes there can be so many issues going on that you donā€™t know which is actually causing the problem. It really becomes a which came first, chicken or the egg type dilemna. The only thing I can think of, is like managers in baseball, when they notice a lot of mistakes, game losses and morality issues, they tend to just make them go back to the basics. Start there. Go back to the self, work on YOU the only thing / person you have control over. Take it one day and one thing at a time. I tend to work on too many things at the same time causing more issues, and either not going anywhere, or taking a step or two backward. So when I write these kinds of posts and find something that may need to be worked on in someone else I know thatā€™s because I see the same issues in me, and it helps clarify for me what I need to be doing. ---
**Author:** ![masu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@masu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/masu)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/50 "2010-08-23T19:16:34Z")
gentleman, Iā€™ve noticed that too about white people getting treated better. I think White people have a sense of status, whereas other races are viewed by women as poorer or dirtier. I was just talking to my friend about how most ethnic girls (americanized ones, FOB ones always stick solely to their own race) prefer White boys and men. I even confronted an Indian girl I know and straight up told her sheā€™ll never go out or sleep with anything but White, and she agreed with me completely. Itā€™s gotten to the point where you can tell what a girl prefers just by looking at her. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/51 "2010-08-23T19:22:35Z")
> [@masu](#): > > gentleman, Iā€™ve noticed that too about white people getting treated better. I think White people have a sense of status, whereas other races are viewed by women as poorer or dirtier. > > I was just talking to my friend about how most ethnic girls (americanized ones, FOB ones always stick solely to their own race) prefer White boys and men. I even confronted an Indian girl I know and straight up told her sheā€™ll never go out or sleep with anything but White, and she agreed with me completely. > > Itā€™s gotten to the point where you can tell what a girl prefers just by looking at her. Completely disagree with that. Youā€™re labeling and putting biasā€™ where they probably shouldnā€™t be any bias. Iā€™ve dated girls whoā€™ve just dated white guys before and never really saw any problem in it. I essentially broke the mold for them. Once you start believing that, that just essentially kills your chances with anyone that you feel that way towards. Are there issues, yea, there always is, but this isnā€™t a perfect world. But as soon as you let those issues influence you then you just lost the battle. ---
**Author:** ![masu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@masu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/masu)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/52 "2010-08-23T19:27:04Z")
Youā€™re right P51. Iā€™m dark skinned btw but Iā€™ve noticed an Indian girl get closer to me recently when I started using mones, but I kept telling myself, ā€˜No sheā€™s indian, sheā€™s only interested in White guysā€™. Iā€™ve actually been thinking about it, and I think maybe Iā€™m the racist one. I think I just prefer white women, so i convince myself darker women donā€™t want meā€¦ hard to explain ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/53 "2010-08-23T19:29:05Z")
> [@masu](#): > > Youā€™re right P51. > > Iā€™m dark skinned btw but Iā€™ve noticed an Indian girl get closer to me recently when I started using mones, but I kept telling myself, ā€˜No sheā€™s indian, sheā€™s only interested in White guysā€™. > > Iā€™ve actually been thinking about it, and I think maybe Iā€™m the racist one. I think I just prefer white women, so i convince myself darker women donā€™t want meā€¦ hard to explain I know how that can go. Iā€™ve had Indian/Paki girls interested in me. Iā€™ve had black girls and asians interested. Itā€™s because I treat them all the same. Regardless of my preference. Plus you never know how many cute friends theyā€™re going to have. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/54 "2010-08-23T20:17:40Z")
I use to feel the same way, Masu. Also, I am sure almost everyone has insecurities, even Brad Pitt. No really! I thought that women would only like specific race, height, color, status, etc. However, although no guarantee in life, I have seen and I have personally caused some women ā€œchangeā€ their preferences and ended up going out with type of guys I thought they wouldnā€™t initially. Now, I go and talk to whoever is attractive - latinas, blacks, asians, whites, mixed - although I have the softest spots for blondes. Just go with WHATEVER attitude and hope for the best. Donā€™t take things personally and just enjoy life. ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/55 "2010-08-24T20:15:20Z")
> [@masu](#): > > Have any of you ever seen the show Keys to the VIP? > > Itā€™s one of my favorite shows about game, I find it really funny and entertaining also. > > But even in that show, where the guys are showing off their PUA and gaming skills, you can literally see the differences between how women react to the guys who are less good looking. > > In this one episode, this guy Kyle (who even I admit is hot, and Iā€™m not gay) has to get a womanā€™s number in under 1 minute. He just goes up to a girl and says ā€˜Thereā€™s an emergency right now and I gotta go, but can I get ur number real quick?ā€™. She replies ā€˜of course! ur so beautiful.ā€™ and he gets the number. While the less good looking guy had to go through all this BS pretending to be deaf to get the #. > > Itā€™s a good series and does help you with pointers on your game and funny as hell, so check it out on Youtube. But the main point was to show the extreme contrast between how the good looking guys hit on women and how the less good looking ones do it. And that doesnā€™t even include just straight up ugly guys. Iā€™ve watched Keys to the VIP and it has plenty of examples of how looks can get BLOWN out of the water by tight game. Yeh, if you need a girls number in less than a minute looks are going to help ALOT - but even your example shows how effective confidence is - The guy who got the number easily approached and confidently asked for her number - no games, no tricks, just confidence. I can assure you that if that same guy approached that same girl with his shoulders drooped, had an opening line like ā€œMan it sure is hot in here eh?ā€ and proceeded to ask for her number he probably would have gotten blown out of the water. Confidence and style \>\>\> Looks - Especially when you are trying to attract QUALITY girlsā€¦Club Skanks (we all know the type) might be highly superficial, but even they can be gamed if all you want is a fuck for the night. * * * On the subject of racial preferences - White people do tend to be more attracted to white people in general, just as black people tend to be more attracted to black people **IN GENERAL**. It has to do with perceiving someone as belonging to the same group as yourself or [Ingroup Bias](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingroup_bias). Even something as simple as thinking someone goes to a rival university (and is therefore not part of your ā€œuniversity groupā€) is sufficient to make you less likely to be able to recognize them. It isnā€™t necessarily about perception of status (I.E. the perception that white people are somehow higher status) but moreso that we are hardwired to be more accepting of people within our ā€œgroupā€. The only exception is when something that makes someone seem outside of our group is novel (like a british/South African accent, which are relatively rare in America)ā€¦ novelty excites other hardwired attraction switches ---
**Author:** ![masu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@masu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/masu)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2010, 5:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/56 "2010-08-25T05:46:07Z")
Wrl, I do understand what you are saying about the confidence thing. (this isnā€™t directed at you Wrl, btw)I do think if two guys of equal looks tried approaching women, the one with more confidence would do better. But the discrepancy occurs when both use confidence, yet the ugly guy gets many less hits. There are two sides to this debate, some say looks donā€™t matter at all, others say it plays a role. Iā€™ve read comments by people saying looks donā€™t matter at all, but I do think they are a variable. Looks set a base value for a person, we can call it 1-10 or whatever, and from there confidence, status, money/fame, humour, can add or subtract from that base value. I really do think itā€™s ridiculous for some to say looks donā€™t matter. Even watching Keys to the VIP, it does demonstrate good game here and there, but to be honest, most guysā€™ game on that show is weak (and the panel admits it very often), but these same guys are pulling numbers from women like itā€™s nothing. A quote from the show ā€˜His game is terrible and wouldnā€™t be getting those numbers if he was fat and ugly.ā€™ Another observation from the show, I havenā€™t watched every episode, but from what Iā€™ve seen, none of the ā€˜worseā€™ looking ones ever had a makeout session at the bar. Itā€™s always the better looking ones. Sure the worse ones can get numbers using some game, but Iā€™ve never seen one get a girl that night. And Iā€™ve watched these good looking guys play the LAMEST game Iā€™ve ever seen and get makeouts and women. So all Iā€™m trying to say is that looks play a large role, and I donā€™t understand why people keep downplaying looks, as if they are irrelevent. One thing Iā€™ll concede though is that I do think Iā€™m wrong about different races. I will open myself up to more varieties of women. Iā€™m pretty excited for this, canā€™t wait to go out this weekend! ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2010, 5:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/57 "2010-08-25T05:53:38Z")
> [@masu](#): > > Wrl, > > So all Iā€™m trying to say is that looks play a large role, and I donā€™t understand why people keep downplaying looks, as if they are irrelevent. > > One thing Iā€™ll concede though is that I do think Iā€™m wrong about different races. I will open myself up to more varieties of women. Iā€™m pretty excited for this, canā€™t wait to go out this weekend! I think based on your experiences so far, its pretty understandable why you think that. But again, the quicker you get that notion, the better off your game and approach would be. I live in one of the hardest places to pick up a girl. Anywhere else I go when I travel, its almost too easy. The girls are of higher caliber as well in those places. Go figure, but you just gotta _ **stop limiting yourself with your beliefs.** _ Maybe you donā€™t realize this now, but youā€™re defending the argument. Thatā€™s the first thing to drop the notion that looks has a higher value on a lot of things. Itā€™s about the confidence bro, and Iā€™m talking about real real confidence. Women can perceive your body language 10x more than men can, women are very perceptive. If you believe youā€™re inferior looks wise, theyā€™ll notice that and dismiss you. You know how they say within the first 30 seconds, well, thatā€™s true because what you project is lack of confidence, and no one wants that. Good luck though Let us know how you do ---
**Author:** ![shigiddy\_jr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/shigiddy_jr/32/1454_2.png) [@shigiddy\_jr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/shigiddy_jr)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2010, 7:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/58 "2010-08-25T07:01:01Z")
just be a stud man. know ur shit dont let them know ur insecurities and they wont pay as much attention to them either and if ppl judge u for how u look foregt them they aint real. u my brother, can be real just know who you are and youā€™ll be fine man, those people who judge u aint worth ur breath jus remember that. o and then the spray will work like a charm šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![shigiddy\_jr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/shigiddy_jr/32/1454_2.png) [@shigiddy\_jr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/shigiddy_jr)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2010, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/59 "2010-08-25T07:29:56Z")
oh and make sure on top of being yourself, you gotta have something to offer them, cause first off you could just be another boring person, but if youā€™re funny, charming, exciting, outgoing, have lots of stories to tell then youā€™re off to a great start. telling from this post though you look like your asking for too much guidance when you already know the answers ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2010, 1:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977/60 "2010-08-25T13:13:40Z")
> [@shigiddy\_jr](#): > > telling from this post though you look like your asking for too much guidance when you already know the answers Canā€™t ever ask for too much guidance. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-use-mones-if-ugly/40977.md?page=4)