# Hows your backhand? **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [March 1, 2007, 7:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281 "2007-03-01T07:55:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TANGO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@TANGO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TANGO)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 7:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/1 "2007-03-01T07:55:31Z")
Hey, I figure its better then saying, “what’s up” or “HI”. Im doing well guys/girls. I recently found this site and I have experimented with Pherolure before and saw almost no results. Kind of sucks, but im willing to try more stuff from here. Im a Nightlife Promoter and I think this would aid my game. Im also an Expert PUA, I go by “The Branson Affair” and I am on myspace. As far as being a PUA is concerned I have looked into the whole “identity” thing (I hope you “blueprint” readers are laughing) and mine is fairly strong. I know for a fact that I posses a unique ability to open people up and make best friends. Which after long moments of thought lead me to the conclusion that my body naturally produces higher amounts of Adrostenols (more beta then alpha, I think)? I often (meaning ALWAYS) have women telling me everything about there life within the first 4 hours of meeting them. They always say there’s a sexual tension they can cut with a knife and that “I feel we have really deep connection”. ALWAYS do I get this “instant honesty” thing from girls. I also have an amazing ability to seduce older women, I AM THE MILF HUNTER! Along with that I also specialize in one night stands, and am king when I know the girl is about the do her cycle (period) thing. This led me to believe I also produce a good amount of NON. My body as I know does produce a higher level of testosterone then others (I work out less gain more/faster, acne prone, aggressive/assertive and burn fat real fast). Would that be a cause for the extra boost in Non output? IM also O blood type, that’s common with NON producing people correct? Any way the body chemistry that I “seem” to possess helps allot with my game. I come of as extremely sexual and I have this deep rapport ability. The two things I get told or asked every set is “are you a player” and “we have this connection”. For both I just slightly tilt my head and smile. QUESTIONS: besides those from above, IF I were to use CTTM2 would that decrease the sexuality of my encounters? My game is pretty direct, and I am overtly sexual. I don’t want to ruin the fundamentals of my game, I like to make women feel sexy and not be that nice rapport guy so much. I leave that for the Juggler fans 🆒. . ---
**Author:** ![TANGO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@TANGO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TANGO)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 8:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/2 "2007-03-01T08:10:28Z")
PS.Im 21, Im male, I like tango music, I like Spanish guitar and violins, I like romantic comedies, I enjoy lobster, I drive a Saturn, I can tell you any thing about small arms (guns), I dabble in NLP and martial arts, I want to be a traveling mentalist/hypnotists, I think Darren Brown is the greatest, besides the promotion thing I also work with handy-cap children, I have an infatuation with the Chinese, I like how Nuclear explosions look, I am into redheads, Christine Aguilera is my dream women (this months maxim), I do about 75 pushups a set, I drink allot (other people usually buy), I think im currently in that find the closest thing to a perfect GF stage, and I LOVE to travel. Places iv been : all over ---
**Author:** ![Marik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marik/32/1623_2.png) [@Marik](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marik)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 10:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/3 "2007-03-01T10:23:30Z")
> [@TANGO](#): > > QUESTIONS: besides those from above, IF I were to use Come Talk To Me Mix 2 would that decrease the sexuality of my encounters? My game is pretty direct, and I am overtly sexual. I don’t want to ruin the fundamentals of my game, I like to make women feel sexy and not be that nice rapport guy so much. I leave that for the Juggler fans 🆒. Hello, I don’t think androstenol decrease the sexuality but it decrease the aggressivness of your vibe. Even if there sometime a link beetwin, it’s not the same thing. Is your game based on aggressivness and intimidation? If not, i think androstenol could not play against you. BTW, high dose of alpha-androstenol could be very spacey and get some “about blank” effect on some people… if your are interested in hypnosis, that could be fun to use. Have fun and let us know your results ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 11:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/4 "2007-03-01T11:10:23Z")
Welcome, oh cocky and brash one… Well, let me just say this to you. You may have an ability to seduce SOME older women, but THIS one, and in fact the majority of those on THESE forums, would happily eat you up for breakfast and spit you back out in time for tea. Without a backwards glance. Your chances of success would be somewhere between none and sweet FA. NEVER generalise, and you wll do so much better. Very few women are mindless, idiotic saps, and not all women are impressed by tricks, and in fact prefer men and women to be genuine in who and what they are - and yes, you will find I am VERY vocal on the subject of “PUA” and so-called gummf of that ilk, so no, you are not the first I have posted to thus, and no, you will not be the last, but you ARE definitely so far, the rudest by far. I am sure the guys here will be along to give you some great advice on [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) for your purposes. Enjoy your pheromonal journey and no doubt the OTHER expert PUAs here on the forums, will welcome your input. Oh..I wonder how many rep points I will sacrifice for this latest anti-PUA post? Guess what? I could not care less. 🙂 Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/5 "2007-03-01T14:50:21Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > Welcome, oh cocky and brash one… > > Well, let me just say this to you. You may have an ability to seduce SOME older women, but THIS one, and in fact the majority of those on THESE forums, would happily eat you up for breakfast and spit you back out in time for tea. Without a backwards glance. Your chances of success would be somewhere between none and sweet FA. > > NEVER generalise, and you wll do so much better. Very few women are mindless, idiotic saps, and not all women are impressed by tricks, and in fact prefer men and women to be genuine in who and what they are - and yes, you will find I am VERY vocal on the subject of “PUA” and so-called gummf of that ilk, so no, you are not the first I have posted to thus, and no, you will not be the last, but you ARE definitely so far, the rudest by far. > > I am sure the guys here will be along to give you some great advice on pheromone products for your purposes. > > Enjoy your pheromonal journey and no doubt the OTHER expert PUAs here on the forums, will welcome your input. > > Oh..I wonder how many rep points I will sacrifice for this latest anti-PUA post? Guess what? I could not care less. 🙂 > > Ail 🙂 Well like you should know by now I disagree with you, but you should NOT lose rep points for speaking what’s on your mind Ail. It would be senseless if we all couldn’t disagree like civilized people without some brainless user negging you for your thoughts regardless of how much we disagree. Rep points should be based on the validity of your posts content, not whether we agree or not. Truthfully Ail, this is kind of a harsh way to greet people even if you dislike their lifestyle. My mother always said if you don’t have something nice to say keep your mouth shut or I’ll bust you upside your head with a wooden spoon. My mother is a genius, just read my signature. > [@](#): > > Hey, I figure its better then saying, “what’s up” or “HI”. Im doing well guys/girls. I recently found this site and I have experimented with Pherolure before and saw almost no results. Kind of sucks, but im willing to try more stuff from here. Im a Nightlife Promoter and I think this would aid my game. Im also an Expert PUA, I go by “The Branson Affair” and I am on myspace. > > As far as being a PUA is concerned I have looked into the whole “identity” thing (I hope you “blueprint” readers are laughing) and mine is fairly strong. I know for a fact that I posses a unique ability to open people up and make best friends. Which after long moments of thought lead me to the conclusion that my body naturally produces higher amounts of Adrostenols (more beta then alpha, I think)? I often (meaning ALWAYS) have women telling me everything about there life within the first 4 hours of meeting them. They always say there’s a sexual tension they can cut with a knife and that “I feel we have really deep connection”. ALWAYS do I get this “instant honesty” thing from girls. I also have an amazing ability to seduce older women, I AM THE MILF HUNTER! Along with that I also specialize in one night stands, and am king when I know the girl is about the do her cycle (period) thing. This led me to believe I also produce a good amount of NON. My body as I know does produce a higher level of testosterone then others (I work out less gain more/faster, acne prone, aggressive/assertive and burn fat real fast). Would that be a cause for the extra boost in Non output? > IM also O blood type, that’s common with NON producing people correct? > > Any way the body chemistry that I “seem” to possess helps allot with my game. I come of as extremely sexual and I have this deep rapport ability. The two things I get told or asked every set is “are you a player” and “we have this connection”. For both I just slightly tilt my head and smile. > > QUESTIONS: besides those from above, IF I were to use Come Talk To Me Mix 2 would that decrease the sexuality of my encounters? My game is pretty direct, and I am overtly sexual. I don’t want to ruin the fundamentals of my game, I like to make women feel sexy and not be that nice rapport guy so much. I leave that for the Juggler fans 🆒. It’s nice to have another PUA on the forums. Yes our resident PUA hater has greeted you already and maybe there should be a sticky warning new users about the wrath of Ail, but all-in-all it’s a free open forum so I accept her opinion even while I whole-heartedly disagree. Allow me to welcome you personally. As far as PUA, I’m no expert, in fact I am a “stupid person” that you will come to loathe for my idiocy and silliness. I do enjoy the company of women and currently I manage 4 gf and a mistress (Ail hates my lifestyle too). We have a great base of PUA here, many new and many experienced. I think most would agree Gem is the expert amongst us. You got this wonderful aura/vibe going for you already, personally I wouldn’t know what to tell you as far as phero’s, but I’m sure one of our resident wonders will come along soon enough to advise. Maybe if you are lucky MarkL, or Nbully, Toilofday, The holy master genius of all phero’s catlord17, and you are certain to have a visit from the illustrious princess of lust herself Jasmin the jazzinator. Again welcome to the forum by me a really stupid man without intellect ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 3:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/6 "2007-03-01T15:38:08Z")
welcome tango. you sound like a _handful …_ i dont know of any [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) that will take the sexuality of your signiture away unless you are _knowing_ you are deficient and need a more masculine signiture. have fun with them, they can be mixedand matched in a way that makes everything useful. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/7 "2007-03-01T16:09:49Z")
Typically higher testosterone levels equate to higher androstenone levels (thats my own theory anyway). I’ve seen some evidence of this myself. I’d like to say that I’m consistent with working out, but between 15 hours of classes, work (+studying for series 7), and managing a fraternity it doesn’t happen. At any rate, in periods when I work out more regularly (christmas break and summer) I do see fluctuations in how androstenone based products work for me, ie I’m more likely to OD. Mixing none with more abrasive type pheromones (ie P83) during these periods is always more likely to cause an undesired level of aggression. It can make me and everyone around me feel pissed off for no reason. I really don’t think androstenols decrease a persons sexual persona. They aren’t inherently as sexual as other pheromones, however, if used in the right context and spun the right way they can certainly facilitate sexual attractions…at times better than something really abrasive like androstenone. I think its a bit folly to so definitively label androstenol type pheromones as strictly social/anti-sexual, and androstenone as purely sexual/anti-social. There’s certainly a whole lot of gray area in how pheromone effects are received. A lot of it is a matter of your own actions…how you ‘present’ the pheromones you wear. At best, the pheromones you wear would be a direct reflection of how you carry yourself, as opposed to you carrying yourself in a way that reflects the pheromones, and your expectations of them. At anyrate, in regards to androstenol’s… you and I are a lot a like, as people have a tendency to open up to me very quickly, and I can pretty easily penetrate socially, and win the favor of people. (I don’t mean to brag, its just a self-observation). I think this is more a factor of social competence and demeanor than pheromones, however if you mix that type of persona with pheromones, it can get excessive. One of the principle characteristics of androstenol is that it accentuates how likable you are(you see this more with beta-Androstenol)…it builds a strong sense of rapport, as people feel socially more comfortable around you. Taken to excessive extent it can make people feel _too_ comfortable, and people will jabber in a Mindless, ADD fashion (Alpha Androstenol), or start going into great depths about things you could care less about (beta-Androstenol). MX144 of the [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) test pack really had a tendancy to do this. It isn’t really detrimental…in fact it would probably work to ones benefit…its just a bit of an annoyance. Anyway this post itself is starting to sound-like an androstenol OD lol. Good luck with everything. ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 10:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/8 "2007-03-02T10:27:36Z")
I’m still laughing.. I have received PLUS rep points for the above post from one of the most prolific PUAs on these forums - for giving the new guy a “Baptism of fire..” Hehe.. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TANGO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@TANGO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TANGO)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/9 "2007-03-02T19:23:20Z")
Thanks for the responses guys and girls, it helps allot. The order came today, just in time for my big event! This should rock so hard. Baptism by fire huh? Not much in the way of advice but thanks for the help in building character, right. Im sorry that you have such a bad outlook on PUA’s. I guess some can be a bit weaselish but I assure you there are no “tricks” in my “game”. I don’t use fancy “openers” and “timelines” of that sort, IM just that “cocky and brash” guy, who knows what both women and I want and help make it happen. I have a fundamental that not many PUA’s have and that’s “always leave a women better then I found her”. I like to install confidence and worth into the women I meet and Im friends with every single one I have EVER slept with. I always tell her “I can guarantee us both temporary emotional satisfaction and fun but not a future”. I don’t help them cheat and have never cheated my self and Am always honest in what I do. As if I have to tell them why Im there, they “pick up” on it fast. Not to mention I find it worthwhile to generalize, then I don’t have to think so much. Ever hear of cold reading? It’s a gimmick portion many PUA’s use that’s based on generalizations. Generalizations generally work…trust me. And speaking about breakfast if you ever want to do breakfast im down, you seem like a very cool women. Very vocal women, but that just gives us more to talk about. IL be in London in July. You talk as if your from the other side of the pond, so I assume you are (a generalization of sorts). That and I want to ask why your name is Ail, which means to cause physical harm in old English. Aren’t you in Sports Medicine & General Fitness, a field that take or prevents the pain or harm from happening? your conflicting name and occupation, not to mention your “sassyness” (which is a good thing) has made you the most interesting person on the forum thus far. ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/10 "2007-03-02T20:04:29Z")
I am in Scotland, you Numpty! My name is Aileen Jae, and I am known by Ail by everyone, including almost all of my students. That, is really all you need to know..for now.. ..oh, and maybe the fact I am a practising GOOD Witch.. ^\_~ Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 8:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/11 "2007-03-02T20:46:54Z")
Last night my house got picked up in a tornado and I landed on a wicked-witch… err or was that a movie I watched 😛 ---
**Author:** ![TANGO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@TANGO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TANGO)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/12 "2007-03-02T22:21:22Z")
IM not to keen on what a numpty is, care to explain? yeah I notice the wicca thing at the bottom, very cool. I know a few Wiccans, there very down to earth people. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 10:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/13 "2007-03-02T22:29:38Z")
> [@TANGO](#): > > IM not to keen on what a numpty is, care to explain? 1. Numpty Scottish usage: a) Someone who (sometimes unwittingly) by speech or action demonstrates a lack of knowledge or misconception of a particular subject or situation to the amusement of others. b) A good humoured admonition, a term of endearment c) A reckless, absent minded or unwise person _a) “No. That wisnae wit she meant, ya big numpty!”_ _b) i.e. “Silly billy”, “You big dafty”_ _c) “That numpty’s driving with no lights on!”_ ---
**Author:** ![vanyel5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vanyel5/32/416_2.png) [@vanyel5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanyel5)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 11:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/14 "2007-03-02T23:46:47Z")
as a very new person on this forum i hope it won’t be held against me if i make the observation that i don’t think she was going for selection (b) in your list of definitions! 🙂 and i must say ail, i’ve only been a member for about a day and i think you are great! joseph p.s. and also come now…‘good witch’ is very highly subjective…anyone read gregory maguire? 😃 just teasing you ail…! ---
**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2007, 4:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/15 "2007-03-03T04:31:09Z")
pssst…TANGO…Ail’s taken. 😛 Welcome to the boards and best of luck with pheromones, but I don’t expect you’ll pick up any of us girls. ---
**Author:** ![TANGO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@TANGO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TANGO)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2007, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/16 "2007-03-03T19:39:15Z")
O come now, Im just having a little fun. I like Ail, I actually read her posts before becoming a member because she is edgy and unique. That and I know she can throw some banter back at me. Those are the people I love, the ones you can verbally play back and forward with, with no expectations other then fun. And I don’t plan on picking up any women on here any time soon. We are all using the same “weapons” and you should never “fight” fare. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 7:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hows-your-backhand/2281/17 "2007-03-12T07:47:26Z")
Hey Tango, you firecracker! I’m looking forward to your input here. You seem like you have a hell of a head on your shoulders. People are attracted to people with confidence, and baby, you’ve got it. You’ve also got a $15 gift certificate waiting for you in your inbox. Have fun!