# HS Junior Help

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hs-junior-help/25931>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 10, 2009, 5:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hs-junior-help/25931 "2009-02-10T05:16:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![scorpiious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scorpiious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scorpiious)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 5:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hs-junior-help/25931/1 "2009-02-10T05:16:11Z")

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thanks alot guys

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**Author:** ![Vespero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vespero/32/988_2.png) [@Vespero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vespero)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 5:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hs-junior-help/25931/2 "2009-02-10T05:23:54Z")

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A314 is a complex mix formulated to create respect and project an alpha vibe. As such, it can be rather difficult to use unless you know how to carry yourself well and are already fairly confident. I would not recommend it for someone your age, as it is more intended for older individuals (twenties and up) for the work environment. A better choice would be Ammo. However, I think the best thing you could do if you want to learn about [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) and get some good advice about what to buy would be to read [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934) and follow the instructions there. Start a new thread here: [Introductions - New Users, Say “Hello” Today and Get $25! at PheromoneTalk.com](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/introductions-new-users-say-hello-today/) and just tell everyone a little about yourself. If you do that, not only will everyone be able to offer much better advice, but Tisha (the forum moderator) will also be able to give you a $25 gift certificate, which you can use to help pay for your order. So, get to that, and good luck!

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**Author:** ![scorpiious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scorpiious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scorpiious)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hs-junior-help/25931/3 "2009-02-10T05:26:04Z")

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> [@Vespero](#):
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> A314 is a complex mix formulated to create respect and project an alpha vibe. As such, it can be rather difficult to use unless you know how to carry yourself well and are already fairly confident. I would not recommend it for someone your age, as it is more intended for older individuals (twenties and up) for the work environment. A better choice would be Ammo. However, I think the best thing you could do if you want to learn about pheromones and get some good advice about what to buy would be to read [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934) and follow the instructions there. Start a new thread here: [Introductions - New Users, Say “Hello” Today and Get $25! at PheromoneTalk.com](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/introductions-new-users-say-hello-today/) and just tell everyone a little about yourself. If you do that, not only will everyone be able to offer much better advice, but Tisha (the forum moderator) will also be able to give you a $25 gift certificate, which you can use to help pay for your order. So, get to that, and good luck!

thanks for replying so fast. What exactly is AMMO? is that another kind of [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/)?

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**Author:** ![Vespero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vespero/32/988_2.png) [@Vespero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vespero)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 5:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hs-junior-help/25931/4 "2009-02-10T05:31:23Z")

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Ammo (and A314, and most of the consumer products sold by Androtics) are not made with a single pheromone, but multiple pheromones mixed together. Each product is mixed together to produce a certain effect. For example, as I said earlier, A314 creates a respectful, mature vibe. [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) can help produce a feeling of trust. The Ammo (or Ammunition) that I spoke of is designed to produce attraction and interest.

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**Author:** ![Vespero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vespero/32/988_2.png) [@Vespero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vespero)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hs-junior-help/25931/5 "2009-02-10T05:32:59Z")

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You’re welcome, by the way. No problem.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 5:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hs-junior-help/25931/6 "2009-02-10T05:36:08Z")

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Ammunition is a good choice. One or two sprays.

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**Author:** ![scorpiious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scorpiious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scorpiious)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 5:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hs-junior-help/25931/7 "2009-02-10T05:36:54Z")

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> [@Vespero](#):
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> You’re welcome, by the way. No problem.

would you suggest that i order AMMO? if so, how much and how do i apply it?

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hs-junior-help/25931/8 "2009-02-10T05:52:38Z")

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for a Person under 20 Ammo may help, but typically only 1 spray.

You may find more luck in [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), effects similar to A314 without the Andestronone, which will cause negative effects in your pheromone mix, especially when combined with your natural pheromone signature, as typically you testosterone levels are way high at 15-22+ and thus you have higher levels of andestronone. Ammo, has Andestronone in it, but it is pretty well buffered. Whereas A314 is pretty much raw Andestronone, and TUTH is not much better

I would also suggest Instant Shine. Think of it is that really happy guy feeling, for you and those around you. people usually want to be around the happy guy.

Then the final would be another social pheromone, IH, IO or CTTM2, depending on your personality-  
If you can start a conversation and talk to people a lot but they don’t seem to talk back, IH,  
If you struggle to get started and say hi but can carry on a conversation once started, IO  
If you are somewhere inbetween CTTM2

Best of luck to you and let us know what works for you.

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 9:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hs-junior-help/25931/9 "2009-02-10T09:34:38Z")

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> [@woofie2](#):
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> Whereas A314 is pretty much raw Andestronone

Actually, you’re describing Raw Power (currently unavailable) there. A314 is a blend of some 16 or more pheromones that, together, work to create that professional alpha vibe. Androstenone is one of them, but it also contains -rone, -nols, and others. As such, the androstenone is well buffered, too, but with all the other ingredients, it’s a bit complex for a 17 year old. Basically, it’d convey an “old guy” vibe to girls of the same age (and I do mean that relatively. I had a 15 year old call me old when I was just 28 once. Yeesh!)

Scorpiius, I’d be more inclined to suggest socials over sexual pheromones, since puberty is still very much active at your age. Instant Shine, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), and Instant Honesty in particular. However, I agree with Vespero’s suggestion to post in the Introductions forum and tell us a little bit about yourself, including body type and ethnicity, as all of these things apply when selecting pheromones and dosage amounts.

-D4

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hs-junior-help/25931/10 "2009-02-10T17:06:30Z")

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> [@scorpiious](#):
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> so im an average looking guy that can get with girls at a club but not in real life. Why? i have no clue, ive grinded with many girls but when i try to ask them in real life it doesnt work.
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> What can i use to boost my pheros? I was thinking A314 but maybe someone here can explain to me how this all works

I bet that at the club you aren’t nervous and in “real life” you sweat bullets.

Don’t make “real life” such a big deal - approach every girl like it doesn’t matter (like you do at the club) and you’ll find their reactions are more favourable.

(They’re like dogs man… they can smell your fear from a mile away 😛)

Try AMMO and IS rather thAn A314 - A314 might feel a little too old for you.

On a side note, if you want to seem older but not as authoritan as A314 I’ve heard [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is GREAT for guys your age.
