# Hurt in the past **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 7, 2007, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hurt-in-the-past/3524 "2007-05-07T14:20:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hurt-in-the-past/3524/1 "2007-05-07T14:20:37Z")
Hi I’m going to a date who was hurt in a past relationship… Are there any good suggestions for me? Jasmin? I’m thinking of 2 sprays [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), plus covering it with a single spray of instant honesty and a single spray of instant shine. A drop of mutant A314 also? I’m not sure re the A314, might be ok though. I want to make her feel good in my presence when she meets me for the first time. Don’t want to use -none for the first few times, afterwards I would introduce ammo. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 3:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hurt-in-the-past/3524/2 "2007-05-07T15:17:38Z")
phoenix, do you have anything with androsterone in it? just mutant A314? the comfort vibe that comes from that is WAY better than IFM for the women who dont respond strongly to IFM 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 3:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hurt-in-the-past/3524/3 "2007-05-07T15:20:52Z")
Most everyone has been hurt in the past. Some more than others. You might try IG the first few interactions. It has a comforting, and comfortable vibe about it. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hurt-in-the-past/3524/4 "2007-05-07T15:37:28Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > phoenix, > do you have anything with androsterone in it? just mutant A314? > the comfort vibe that comes from that is WAY better than Instant Female Magic for the women who dont respond strongly to IFM 🙂 I have standard a314 in spray form - I think it’s with the neroli scent. Scent of Eros perhaps? That’s got -rone in it too. I took some and added water to that lot once. But I still have some undiluted SOE available. I don’t think I have anything else with -rone. Not sure what’s in Aquagen, I do have that too. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 3:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hurt-in-the-past/3524/5 "2007-05-07T15:39:42Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > Most everyone has been hurt in the past. Some more than others. > > You might try Instant Gentleman the first few interactions. It has a comforting, and comfortable vibe about it. I know, I know. I don’t have IG unfortunately. I’ve got lots of test mixes, putatives too. I don’t have TAL but I have TAF and P79. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hurt-in-the-past/3524/6 "2007-05-07T15:43:51Z")
Hey I’ve also got MX157 which contains [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) in an [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) base… P74 seems to be the in [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/).. A spray a314 plus a spray P74, with some SOE (I’ve got the roll thing) perhaps then? Not using IFM would be good (though I have a large bottle of that!) less risk of feeling ‘down’. I should add we want to take it slow at first.. which is why I will avoid the -none, at first, later I will… The MX157 would be good as the ammo smell will be definitely something new for her, no bad memories of that for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hurt-in-the-past/3524/7 "2007-05-07T15:48:53Z")
instant gentleman is the closest thing i have heard so far to SoE , otherwise A314 is a great alternative. maybe better?i like it alot. im a nonresponder to IFM, but something about 'rone makes me feel very comfortable and safe. i have a feeling alot of women are similar. SoE is absolutely fabulous. love it. not sure what adding water to it does, might have introduced bacteria over time to it,so i would use the undiluted version 😉 i know there are guys who think 'rone = comfort = friendzone/not sexy but nothing could be further in my eyes. comfort first means no defences kick in, then comfort means i can get wild and crazy without fear 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 3:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hurt-in-the-past/3524/8 "2007-05-07T15:57:24Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > i know there are guys who think 'Androsterone = comfort = friendzone/not sexy > but nothing could be further in my eyes. > > comfort first means no defences kick in, then comfort means i can get wild and crazy without fear 😉 I can confirm this. Women seem to respond quite well to the rone in IG. My wife is quite aware when I wear this. She likes it a lot, but she doesn’t always like that other women like it. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 5:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hurt-in-the-past/3524/9 "2007-05-07T17:18:08Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > SoE is absolutely fabulous. love it. > > not sure what adding water to it does, might have introduced bacteria over time to it,so i would use the undiluted version 😉 > > i know there are guys who think 'Androsterone = comfort = friendzone/not sexy > but nothing could be further in my eyes. > > comfort first means no defences kick in, then comfort means i can get wild and crazy without fear 😉 When I added water it kind of became more whitish. There was some kind of reaction. I think I’ll use the undiluted stuff I have left. Probably should get some more SOE if the date goes well! Plus with the MX157 she can get used to the ammo smell.. for later when I upgrade to ammo itself! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hurt-in-the-past/3524/10 "2007-05-07T17:29:32Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > P74 seems to be the in pheromone.. > A spray a314 plus a spray P74, with some SOE (I’ve got the roll thing) perhaps then? That should be a spray MX157 (which is [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) + ammo scent). I think as a base I’ll go for a couple drops of mutant a314 on my neck though as I really like that oil. Plus some SOE on my wrists… endng with a spray or even two of MX157 on the neck. What do you think? Or should I restrict MX157 to just one? ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hurt-in-the-past/3524/11 "2007-05-07T17:43:17Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > I think as a base I’ll go for a couple drops of mutant A314 on my neck though as I really like that oil… Me too. I have 3 bottles of the mutant hoarded and haven’t even tried the regular A314 yet. I guess I’ll have to when the mutant runs out. It was good luck for me that the scent was left out of that mutant batch! ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2007, 8:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hurt-in-the-past/3524/12 "2007-05-11T08:51:38Z")
I’ve got the mix down right I think. I’m 100% decided on what to use 2 drops mutant a314 on neck Some scent of eros on my wrists and back of hands.. Just 1 spray MX157 (P74 with ammo scent), Will report back on the results… ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2007, 6:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hurt-in-the-past/3524/13 "2007-05-13T06:17:59Z")
Results: Great date - lots of smiling on her part, giggling at times… And she texted me saying she had a great time. But after another day or two she discovered she still is not over her ex-bf. 😮 I would start to think whether any pheros could help, if we meet again (not a date though)… any ideas? (ammunition I know) ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2007, 7:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hurt-in-the-past/3524/14 "2007-05-13T07:18:41Z")
> [@](#): > > When I added water it kind of became more whitish. There was some kind of reaction. I think I’ll use the undiluted stuff I have left. Probably should get some more Scent of Eros if the date goes well! That’s because the oil carrier of Scent of Eros doesn’t mix well with water. > [@](#): > > But after another day or two she discovered she still is not over her ex-bf. Everybody is like that. It takes me years to get over a serious relationship. And I don’t really get over them, the feelings are still there, but locked away in a separate compartment in my brain. However a new love is the best way to start building the walls of that compartment… ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2007, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hurt-in-the-past/3524/15 "2007-05-13T07:20:04Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > That’s because the oil carrier of Scent of Eros doesn’t mix well with water. Yep… I know that now …