# i am a noob

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-a-noob/25674>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 2, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-a-noob/25674 "2009-02-02T23:03:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mikey07](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikey07/32/1758_2.png) [@Mikey07](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mikey07)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-a-noob/25674/1 "2009-02-02T23:03:35Z")

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these are the products i want to get.I dont have alot of cash so iam going to buy pheros to go and one full size bottle.

instant openess to go double strength  
ihonesty to go double strength

i also want to get ammo,instant shine and turn up the heat.so since i cant afford it which should i get in full size and the other 2 would be to go.also if i get is full siz,is it a good idea to get 4x strength.

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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-a-noob/25674/2 "2009-02-02T23:19:49Z")

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> [@Mikey07](#):
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> these are the products i want to get.I dont have alot of cash so iam going to buy pheros to go and one full size bottle.
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> instant openess to go double strength  
> ihonesty to go double strength
> 
> i also want to get ammo,instant shine and turn up the heat.so since i cant afford it which should i get in full size and the other 2 would be to go.also if i get is full siz,is it a good idea to get 4x strength.

Hey Mikey, Get yourself a full size bottle of Ammo, and to-go’s of the rest. Your best bet is to try the products at single strength to start, then if you find your sweet spot to be 2 sprays of this or 4 sprays of that, you would want to buy that product at the higher strength.

I am going to suggest that you NOT get the Turn Up The Heat though. I know that the decription is compelling, but you are young and are already producing high levels of Androstenone naturally, and shouldn’t really need it. You are better off putting your money into the social products. [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is another great choice!

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**Author:** ![techman265](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2acd7d/32.png) [@techman265](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/techman265)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-a-noob/25674/3 "2009-02-02T23:21:33Z")

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Remember that you are 17 and, based on my readings, you produce a lot of your own natural [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). I don’t know if you would want to 4x strength especially if it is your first time buying. Finding your sweet spot on each product individually I think is important. My first order was all togo bottles and I got openness, honesty, shine, and ammo. I then did my baptism like a noob but after that I found that my sweet spot on Shine was 4 sprays. When I decided to get my full bottles, I got a 2x Shine bottle so that I could use 2 sprays before I go to work in the morning.