# I am lost !!!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 26, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499 "2009-02-26T15:29:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/1 "2009-02-26T15:29:28Z")
so I been reading reports and posts for past 4 hours and I am lost lol šŸ˜• I am trying to pick a product or two that can spice up the sexual thing between us and shows me as the good great amazing boyfriend that every girl wants. I read in couple places that P74 give the boyfriend vibe but not sure if thats true or not. I got [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) two weeks ago and I gone up to 3 sprays and havenā€™t seen much.ā˜¹ ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/2 "2009-02-26T15:38:18Z")
Have you tried small amounts of A314? I know most advice goes against using it socially but most of time consistant use within a relationship gives great results. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/3 "2009-02-26T15:43:54Z")
what do you have so far? have you tried the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)? sometimes i want to call the bottle of Ammo my boyfriendā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/4 "2009-02-26T15:47:08Z")
I cant wear A314 around her ā€¦ when I wear that stuff people run away from me lol and my normal mix that I wear around her is AMMO - CTTM - IFM - IS and also she reacts to TUTH (in a good way ). ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/5 "2009-02-26T15:48:56Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > what do you have so far? > > have you tried the Ammo? > > sometimes i want to call the bottle of Ammo my boyfriendā€¦ haha. Is there anywhere I can read about your experiences about ammo, Lor? Iā€™m alaways interested in womanā€™s first hand experience with ammo. ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/6 "2009-02-26T15:55:01Z")
my experience or Lors ? once again I am lost. plus I am wearing 3 spray of TUTH at work and nothing interesting so far. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/7 "2009-02-26T16:00:25Z")
> [@dss](#): > > my experience or Lors ? once again I am lost. > > plus I am wearing 3 spray of TUTH at work and nothing interesting so far. He was talking about Lorā€™s experiences with Ammo. Always nice to get the other genderā€™s views on our products. šŸ˜ƒ Mmk, DSS, i think its time we sat down and had a chat about congruency. Youā€™re wearing TUTH to work and expecting a large reaction from the women there? I mean, i suppose it has happened in the past from peopleā€™s posts, but itā€™s going to be pretty rare. You know, cause of the whole sexual harrassment kinda thing. People just donā€™t get sexual very often at workā€¦ maybe if you caught their attention, asked them to meet outside of work for a drink, and THEN wore TUTH, they would react more. Or rather, if they are reacting, show that reaction. I doubt many women will show you that youā€™re ā€œbothering themā€ during work hours, since that makes them seem very unprofessional. So while i think work is GREAT for social testing or status testing, for sexual? It can be a whoooole different ballgame. Just my two cents. šŸ™„ ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/8 "2009-02-26T16:04:19Z")
oh I know I just want see how people at work are reacting to it šŸ˜ƒ its all about testing and fun. so I am still trying to figure out what to order I got get my order in before 12 so I can get it by tom morning šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/9 "2009-02-26T16:17:22Z")
Well, you mentioned [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) in your OP. Yes some have reported a ā€œboyfriendā€ vibe with it. You should probably try it. Youā€™ve been here since Oct, youā€™ve gotten some responses from the consumer products, nothing wrong with branching out into putative testing. Just remember it is TESTING. P74 is one of the most reported on putatives but there is still a lot of room for interpretation as to what exactly the vibe is. Give it a good workout. Get a 12.5 MCG to go and follow Tishaā€™s guidelines for testing and reporting. You donā€™t need to follow her outline word for word but try to use it by itself in varying amounts for a week. That way you should be able to see itā€™s effects. Then try combining it with other products. The default light neroli fragrance is the recommended one to get, but if you like one of the others thatā€™s OK too. Good Luck and have fun! EDIT: hereā€™s a link to that thread > [@How to Test and Report On Products UPDATED 12/01](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-test-and-report-on-products-updated-12-01/6297): > > (At the bottom of this post I have included a small guide on how to find your sweet spot) It has occurred to me that alot of the new people who have reported have not given detailed reports which is something that is needed by Androtics to make new consumer products. I am guilty of this at times as well. (sorry Jas wink ) I am going to post a outline here so that new people will understand how to report so we can have some more consumer goodies faster. First off when you receive a product aā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Vespero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vespero/32/988_2.png) [@Vespero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vespero)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/10 "2009-02-26T16:24:05Z")
I think I agree with Renny on the P74, particularly if after you get a handle on it, you try it in conjunction with consumer products. I tested a to-go at 25mcg and did get visible results when I helped girls with homework or just went and talked to them. However, I never really used it with consumer line products, and I didnā€™t report much on it because last semester was very stressful for me. I also got good hits from the Ammo test pack, and that is P74 based. So, give it a shot; a to-go of 12.5mcg wonā€™t set you back much at all, and could give you the edge youā€™re looking for. ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/11 "2009-02-26T16:26:34Z")
ya Ill give it a try ā€¦I am running out of IFM and from what I been reading it wont be back for another couple months and still no news on raw or dirty ā˜¹ kinda disappointing ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/12 "2009-02-26T16:33:27Z")
The P74 based test-pack has had some really awesome mixes in it Iā€™ve never tested P74, but from my testing of the test pack I would suspect it engenders closeness, amplifies emotional attachment and produces a somewhat euphoric feeling. On the downside it seems to be distracting/demotivating - it is hard to sit down and get work done. It might also have a TAA like mood boosting effect. This is based entirely on comparison between standard AMMO and MX275/MX276. Of course I could be wrong and those have some other molecule which has caused those results - I imagine that if I purchase P74 and test it I will have to be vigilant to not allow prior thoughts on the molecule to skew my observations. Dss a raw test pack has been released - no oil version until testing is complete on it. If you want a [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) Oil version it would probably be a good idea to help test the Raw Power packā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/13 "2009-02-26T16:35:45Z")
ya but thats old out too ā˜¹ ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/14 "2009-02-26T16:37:31Z")
Just to second that, some of the [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) test pack has rocked, big time. I want a gallon drum of MX275 šŸ˜ƒ dss, one comment of yours worries me, 3 shots TUTH at work and no hits, are you really surprised? Wrong location to be testing that one buddy. even if the ladies react, they arenā€™t going to show it and you probably come across as one creepy guy looking to get laid in the office.šŸ˜® ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/15 "2009-02-26T16:40:37Z")
oh I know but the ONLY reason I did it is to see how people react thats all I mean if I get a slap in face that means its working it one of the co-workers comes in my office and closes the door and ya ā€¦ that means its working if people ignore me and donā€™t want be around me it means its working thats all just testing it. ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/16 "2009-02-26T16:49:11Z")
Personally MX276 has been my starā€¦ I was so happy and emotionally ā€œthereā€ relationship wise that weekā€¦ I would need to add something so that I could actually get work done during the day (maybe A314 or something) ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-lost/26499/17 "2009-02-26T16:50:48Z")
ya well its out of stock so I cant even buy MX276/5