# i am now a true beleiver lol **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 16, 2008, 3:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693 "2008-05-16T03:15:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sidekick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@sidekick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sidekick)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 3:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693/1 "2008-05-16T03:15:20Z")
all i gotta say is i got a shipment of ammo along wit a free turn up the heat and a shine. thanks for that by the way. and i must say this ammo stuff really does work. its funny to me cause i already didnt really have trouble gettin chicks. but now the advantage is almost unfair. lol i feel like im taking a test at school wit a cheat sheet. its great. i havent really tried turn up the heat yet tho cause ive been reading posts to learn as much about it as possible before i step up to that one. the other thing i wanted to talk about is instant shine aka legal feel good crack in a bottle. ive been using this at work combined with ammo. i work in a resturant so i talk to new people all day every day. i gotta say that i can see the diffrence in the mood of my tables. they seem a lot friendlier towards me and my tips have increased because of it. i also see a lot of milfs that come in during the day with their kids and they tent to give me a lot of i would bang you stares lol. so now what ive decided to do is test all of these other products ( i just made an order) and im gonna give detailed feedback everytime i go out. i am very happy i came across this forum and these products. the first test im gonna go with i think should be fun. i just ordered ifm. another bottle of shine. honesty and openess. i had poseted before about gettin out of the friend zone combos now i go out with this girl about once a week so im gonna try diffrent combos to see what kind of reactions i get out of her. maybe i can help all the other guys that have friend zone posts. i just think it would be interseting to see what happens. cause in the end she really is a friend to me.( but if the chance came i would bang her and she knows it) so she is gonna be our labrat. and before i started hanging with her again i did dissapear from her life for a while and came back reinvented and she does notice it cause she told me i think that part has to be done no matter what. ok well i will be hanging with her either this monday or tuesday night my order should be in by then. anyone got any ideas on what combos i should start with? with the main one being ammo since ive started with that already with her ? hit me with any feedback or tips. i will be posting my results as ( friend zone tests ) i am still a noob so i hope the pros hit me wit some advice. thanks again guys. . one . šŸ†’ ---
**Author:** ![9loaded](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/eada6e/32.png) [@9loaded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/9loaded)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 5:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693/2 "2008-05-16T05:29:51Z")
> [@sidekick](#): > > . i also see a lot of milfs that come in during the day with their kids and they tent to give me a lot of i would bang you stares lol. > > šŸ†’ Lucky motherfucker ---
**Author:** ![danadrianrico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@danadrianrico](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/danadrianrico)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 8:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693/3 "2008-05-16T08:16:50Z")
> [@9loaded](#): > > Lucky motherfucker damn right lucky. Yo buddy, u wanna send me a pm sayin how u applied that stuff like detailed directions & stuff cause I got the same tools 'cept the magic & i havent got it quite right yet. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 8:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693/4 "2008-05-16T08:30:02Z")
> [@](#): > > the other thing i wanted to talk about is instant shine aka legal feel good crack in a bottle. ive been using this at work combined with ammo. i work in a resturant so i talk to new people all day every day. i gotta say that i can see the diffrence in the mood of my tables. they seem a lot friendlier towards me and my tips have increased because of it. i also see a lot of milfs that come in during the day with their kids and they tent to give me a lot of i would bang you stares lol. Itā€™s not just the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) working for you. Itā€™s you. A happy disposition and positive vibe is infectious even without pheromones. The pheromones intensify it and amp you up. Behaves like a feedback loop (if youā€™re a guitar player youā€™ll know what I mean). ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 8:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693/5 "2008-05-16T08:48:50Z")
Iā€™ve never noticed anything too dramatic with the pheremones I tried (Perception gel). Mostly it seems like people treat you a little nicer and I notice my mood is a little more confident. I must be partially anosmic because to me the pheremones just smell vaguely musky, in between male cat urine and human sweat; not much smell really and nobody has ever commented on the smell itself. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 9:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693/6 "2008-05-16T09:33:08Z")
Actually each type of mone has a distinct scent. For example, androstenol is very different than androstenone or cops. Perception didnā€™t do much for me, and I had both the spray and the gels. I seem to recall the main active mone was androstenol. Maybe the ā€œtime releaseā€ feature they claimed rendered the dose too mild. I enjoy a more in your face 'nol buzz from a strong non-buffered dose (think: 5 or 6 zaps of Spaceland) ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 10:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693/7 "2008-05-16T10:31:28Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Actually each type of pheromone has a distinct scent. I think Perception is a balanced formula, not too heavy in any of the major pheremones. I could only smell it in very large amounts (2 doses), and it smells vaguely like a little bit of body odor. I noticed people were a little bit more talkative around me, in an interested sort of way- people seemed to be more open and helpful than they usually were, and I noticed a slight elevation in my mood (a ā€œcozyā€ feeling). I was more curious to see what would happen than trying to achieve any particular goals- I didnā€™t try to hit on women, but I might have noticed a few people being more friendly than usual and taking notice. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 11:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693/8 "2008-05-16T11:29:08Z")
> [@Daedelus76](#): > > I think Perception is a balanced formula, not too heavy in any of the major pheremones. I could only smell it in very large amounts (2 doses), and it smells vaguely like a little bit of body odor. I noticed people were a little bit more talkative around me, in an interested sort of way- people seemed to be more open and helpful than they usually were, and I noticed a slight elevation in my mood (a ā€œcozyā€ feeling). I was more curious to see what would happen than trying to achieve any particular goals- I didnā€™t try to hit on women, but I might have noticed a few people being more friendly than usual and taking notice. Hmm that is some interesting info coming from another [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) brand šŸ™„ Thanks for sharing Daedelus šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 2:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693/9 "2008-05-16T14:15:46Z")
Good results. Keep posting the result > [@sidekick](#): > > anyone got any ideas on what combos i should start with? with the main one being ammo since ive started with that already with her ? > > šŸ†’ Since you already know her, try 2 spray of TUTH to sexually arouse her ---
**Author:** ![jayzee327](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc79bd/32.png) [@jayzee327](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayzee327)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693/10 "2008-05-16T15:14:31Z")
Hey sidekick, how old r u and what dosages are u using of the mones. ---
**Author:** ![sidekick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@sidekick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sidekick)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693/11 "2008-05-17T02:11:33Z")
im 25 and i used a regular ammo and shine combo at work 2 shots of ammo to my neck and 2 shots of togo shine on my neck ---
**Author:** ![sidekick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@sidekick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sidekick)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693/12 "2008-05-17T02:15:58Z")
so jamesbonded you think i should go 2 shots of heat on her? what about the others i got. you think i should throw in some honesty and openess the get her a little open as well? i was also afraid to use turn up the heat cause it smelt a little funny to me lol ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693/13 "2008-05-17T02:22:19Z")
> [@jamesbonded](#): > > Good results. Keep posting the result > > Since you already know her, try 2 spray of Turn Up The Heat to sexually arouse her Here is my point, even if you already know her, she is your friend, and if she stricktly view u as only a friend for a long time, too much turn up the heat will confuse her and probably scare her ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693/14 "2008-05-17T03:07:17Z")
> [@Daedelus76](#): > > I think Perception is a balanced formula, not too heavy in any of the major pheremones. I could only smell it in very large amounts (2 doses), and it smells vaguely like a little bit of body odor. Youā€™re right, Perception is a balanced formula in the same sense as [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and EA, albeit a weaker concentration. I just looked up the ratio at LS, and the ratio is: 1 androstenone:2 androstenol:1 androsterone. Although androstenol hogs the show a bit. My bottle developed gross little ā€œfloaters.ā€ Donā€™t know what they were but I suspect a large bacterial colony. Itā€™s the only product I know of that uses a water carrier rather than alcohol or oil. Plus, the atomizers leaked badly. Too bad it didnā€™t work at all for me. As for turning a female friend into a lover or friend with benefits, take it really slow. Most likely it wonā€™t work out and the ensuing awkward situation may cost your a friend. True friends are really hard to come by but can last a lifetime. Lovers are a dime a dozen and donā€™t last very long. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693/15 "2008-05-17T03:32:43Z")
I think that floater is some oily substance instead, like from your skin or even some dust. Bacterial is awfully hard to develop in alcohol šŸ™‚ > [@](#): > > As for turning a female friend into a lover or friend with benefits, take it really slow. Most likely it wonā€™t work out and the ensuing awkward situation may cost your a friend. True friends are really hard to come by but can last a lifetime. Lovers are a dime a dozen and donā€™t last very long. Good saying lol! In friend zone, a slow step is a steady one šŸ˜ƒ so donā€™t forget the social nol or ishine (taa) to balance out the androstenone aggressiveness! ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 10:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-now-a-true-beleiver-lol/12693/16 "2008-05-19T10:05:01Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Youā€™re right, Perception is a balanced formula in the same sense as Ammo and EA, albeit a weaker concentration. I just looked up the ratio at LS, and the ratio is: 1 androstenone:2 androstenol:1 androsterone. Although androstenol hogs the show a bit. sounds like a mostly social mix? I refrigerate mine. It has plastic/polymers in it (which are water soluble- it does take soap though to get the smell completely gone), maybe thatā€™s the floaters you saw seperating out. I also believe it has alcohol as it evaporates quickly. Iā€™m planning to try some pheros without androstenone and see how it goes. Also I will try an androstenone product in isolation to try and see an intentional OD. ā€œFriendā€ is the wrong term. At this point Iā€™m trying to elicit longer conversations from people- so I guess I want more friendly acquaintances.