# I Am Puzzled By This Company **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [April 18, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-puzzled-by-this-company/64209 "2015-04-18T01:23:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TheHim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@TheHim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheHim)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-puzzled-by-this-company/64209/1 "2015-04-18T01:23:34Z")
Everything about this company screams “Scam!” It shouts “Do not trust!” and “Take your money and run!” for multiple reasons: - Had such a major discovery actually been made, we would know about it by now - The descriptions of the pheromones sound magical and fake - The website looks like it hasn’t been updates since the '90s - “200% Money Back Guarantee!” “We actually lose money on some of these products.” No. A business could not survive if it did this. It all has that “too-good-to-be-true” feeling to it. - I’ve read numerous articles on pheromones, and they all say this, “We haven’t yet been able to extract [human pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/).” So all scholarly scientists and publications haven’t yet extracted pheromones, but some website hidden in the corner of the internet has? - Products are stupidly expensive. Really, $4 per milliliter? Despite all of this massive evidence that makes me conclude that this place is just another scam, you manage to have the best smelling products I have ever used or smelled upon another person. It was a few years ago now when I tried your “Instant Openness”, and I still talk about it. I felt so incredibly confident not because of the pheromones, but because of its powerful scent. Because of that scent, I go to Kohl’s and cannot bring myself to find any of the perfumes or colognes attractive. Now, trying to get to know a girl I’m interested in, I could really use this, but, Jesus Christ, is something bizarre about this company. What do you think of all this? ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-puzzled-by-this-company/64209/2 "2015-04-18T22:10:12Z")
> [@TheHim](#): > > Everything about this company screams “Scam!” It shouts “Do not trust!” and “Take your money and run!” for multiple reasons: > > - Had such a major discovery actually been made, we would know about it by now > - The descriptions of the pheromones sound magical and fake > - The website looks like it hasn’t been updates since the '90s > - “200% Money Back Guarantee!” “We actually lose money on some of these products.” No. A business could not survive if it did this. It all has that “too-good-to-be-true” feeling to it. > - I’ve read numerous articles on pheromones, and they all say this, “We haven’t yet been able to extract human pheromones.” So all scholarly scientists and publications haven’t yet extracted pheromones, but some website hidden in the corner of the internet has? > - Products are stupidly expensive. Really, $4 per milliliter? > > Despite all of this massive evidence that makes me conclude that this place is just another scam, you manage to have the best smelling products I have ever used or smelled upon another person. It was a few years ago now when I tried your “Instant Openness”, and I still talk about it. I felt so incredibly confident not because of the pheromones, but because of its powerful scent. Because of that scent, I go to Kohl’s and cannot bring myself to find any of the perfumes or colognes attractive. Now, trying to get to know a girl I’m interested in, I could really use this, but, Jesus Christ, is something bizarre about this company. What do you think of all this? > > Edit: I know people are going to mark down my reputation quite a bit, but I still feel bitter-sweet towards this organization. Go a week wearing your favorite product. Then, go a week without wearing it. Try acting the same way. Report back. ---
**Author:** ![TheHim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@TheHim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheHim)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-puzzled-by-this-company/64209/3 "2015-04-19T00:35:40Z")
I don’t have a bottle with me now. As stated, the only time I tried it was a few years back, and I, stupidly, did not care to track results. I’m tempted to buy another, but, at the same time, I feel I’m being scammed… I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2015, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-puzzled-by-this-company/64209/4 "2015-04-19T03:38:33Z")
I’ve been using and testing AD products for a while now. Believe me, it’s no scam. I’ve taken advantage of the 200% guarantee before, but the service is so good that I’ve only ever needed it twice (one time the fault was shipping). Sure, they lose a little bit of money if a screwup happens that they have to give a refund for, but that’s why they are careful to give such good service: so they don’t have to lose money by cleaning up after mistakes. A lot of the product descriptions are given by users, and then compiled and published by AD. While I don’t agree with all of the descriptions, the majority of them are truthful. That quote you posted said that [human pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) have not been successfully EXTRACTED. AD has never claimed that they extract pheromones. They synthetically create pheromones in a lab. There are no human byproducts in their products. That’s where the pricing comes in: they are very expensive to synthesize. Yes, the web design is outdated. But they are not a technology company. Look at any wholesaler or small retailer’s website, and it will look pretty similar. They’re not Target or Sears. Look at any government website, and I guarantee it will look worse. ---
**Author:** ![newmanager84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/2acd7d/32.png) [@newmanager84](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/newmanager84)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2015, 10:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-puzzled-by-this-company/64209/5 "2015-04-19T10:08:46Z")
that is the exact same thing i thought when i first bought something from AD. trust me though, no scam. i received my last batch just yesterday, and thou there has been a lil screw up im not going to complain much, as in the end they gave me 2 bottles of the wrong molecule, cos i had ordered 2 of another. but still, things may happen. what im sure of is that AD has one of the best customer service, although its pretty hard to get ahold of anybody on the phone. also, this community pushes you to be an active member, so that you can get points to spend on the store. and believe me or not, i paid 160$ in points for this last batch. some people here, having become a reporting user, hasnt payed a bottle with real money in a long time. as lakerman suggested, get yourself some mones and wear them a week, then go a week without, and while acting the same notice the differences. then come back here and tell us we were wrong. or right. you already saw openness in action. i understand you may still have doubts, but you’ve got to accept that if you see something that is supposed to happen with a product you are using, then there are big chances that the product is working as advertised. like miss dragon, i dont fully agree on all the descriptions in the website, but the whole concept of this forum, of these mones, is to try it out for yourself and report reactions. as for the look of the store i dont really mind. its a lil old looking, true, but simple to browse nonetheless. i find it practical. peace ---
**Author:** ![Dream\_Brother](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dream_brother/32/1559_2.png) [@Dream\_Brother](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dream_Brother)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-am-puzzled-by-this-company/64209/6 "2015-05-06T18:30:46Z")
Hmm, I’d say it _was_ in fact the pheromones that made you feel confident. Like myself, there are many people here willing to spend their money over & over again, as they are confident in the products being effective. People who aren’t affiliated, and who come from every corner of the world. If it’s the descriptions of the products that make you question the companies legitimacy, that’s marketing, and also a well-worded insight into what to expect from the product. As much as I wish the world worked this way, companies _have_ to market their products in a way that makes them more appealing, with design, product descriptions, and so on. However, with Androtics, they aren’t marketing for personal gain, it’s to get more and more people into the world of pheromones, to help spur the research on, and help people come to realise things in life that may often seem too good to be true, are in fact possible. This helps people think in a much more hopeful and optimistic way, and enables people to be more ambitious, and live out of the box.