# I come in pieces.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [March 25, 2007, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724 "2007-03-25T14:20:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2007, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/1 "2007-03-25T14:20:12Z")

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Like Humpty Dumpty. Or Mr. Potato Head.

Greetings Jasmin and everyone. I’ve enjoyed A314 so much that I just had to come over and see what else is cookin’. Glad I did.

Look forward to trying some of the other products offered here.

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2007, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/2 "2007-03-25T14:51:08Z")

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Big welcome to you, Holmes! You’re one of the wise guys I always listen to 😉

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2007, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/3 "2007-03-25T15:31:04Z")

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a blast from the not-so-distant past.

i hope to discover you have tried instant shine / IH ,  
i would enjoy your take on those.

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2007, 9:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/4 "2007-03-25T21:08:22Z")

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Hey whats up man. Welcome!

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**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/5 "2007-03-26T03:30:47Z")

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Tanks y’all.

Funny you mention those two items, Lor. They’ve been right up there on my list…in addition to TAH, TAF (BIF, BAM, POW)…etc.

I’ll be ordering the [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) for sure. Can’t decide whether to do Honesty or Openess next, though. What would be better for interview-type settings (or any situation wherein you need the other party to warm up to you real quick)?

Great to see you, Siggy.

Carrie - thanks, but I was never in the Mob. As far as you know. 😃

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 10:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/6 "2007-03-26T10:26:47Z")

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if your going to get instant shine anyway , Holmes , id get the IH.  
theres less “lets just talk about anything” and more “lets talk about stuff that matters” .  
and lately, i cant say enough about TAF,lol.

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/7 "2007-03-26T23:18:47Z")

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Honesty would probably be better than opennes for interviews. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) is alpha-androstenol based, while Instant Honesty is beta androstenol based.

Instant Honesty is more of a deeply penetrating social vibe. Instant Honesty will allow you to build rapport with people very quickly, the Instant Openness is quite good at this as well. Instant Openness (similar to SOE) is more uplifted, and chatty.

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**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/8 "2007-03-27T03:44:59Z")

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Coolio. Whatever creates an instant “connection” and gets 'em talking is good with me.

So I guess Shine and Honesty are the frontrunners for now. Those should serve me well in the next two or three months. I hope.

Also looking into Openness (hey, spelled it right this time), P76, TAF, CTTM, and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). And I had been considering PheroProof (sp?). Is that one still in production?

What is the best product here for peacing you out when you’re tweaked -without turning you into a total doof?

How 'bout the best one for increased “social bravery?”

Merci beau cul.

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 11:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/9 "2007-03-27T11:59:15Z")

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Pheroproof is (I think?) a brand new release - it just came up on the forum this week:

> [@Pheroproof Works!!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617):
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> I wore the product called Pheroproof today and the guy who made it was right it certainly proves that [pheromones](https://a314.com/) work. However this product is dangerous, every gay guy in the gym tried to hit on me and many straight men were looking at me as if they wanted to make out or something. It was terrible. Then I saw my friend who I was trying to impress with this stuff and she promptly began to talk to me as if I were her gay shopping buddy!! When the creator of this product writes in his advertisement…

For peacing you out when tweaked, I like MX138 and MX140.

For social bravery, I like MX105 - Sigma’s reported on this one quite a bit. It’s an A314 variant but less heavy, better for socializing. You might also want to check out threads on [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/).

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 12:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/10 "2007-03-27T12:45:30Z")

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> [@Carrie](#):
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> Pheroproof is (I think?) a brand new release - it just came up on the forum this week:
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> [Pheroproof Works!!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheroproof-works/2617)
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> For peacing you out when tweaked, I like MX138 and MX140.
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> For social bravery, I like MX105 - Sigma’s reported on this one quite a bit. It’s an A314 variant but less heavy, better for socializing. You might also want to check out threads on Instant Gentleman.

Carrie, i am sooo gald you mentioned instant gentleman!

i actually remember hearing to the effect the its mellowing, this is a mix i wouldnt mind trying.

or maybe i just want to huff the 'rone :o

instant gentleman might need to replace “new car smell” everywhere

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**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/11 "2007-04-06T21:40:44Z")

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Thanks (somewhat belatedly). 105 sounds to be just what the witchdoctor ordered. What differences have you found between 138 and 140?

Which Instant Shine/Instant Honesty viscosity should I go with (regular or 2x)? Is the latter strength overkill for most purposes or is more really more in this case?

I never even considered [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) 'til you had to bring it up! 😃 Maybe I should look into that one, though. So many options…it’s all very confusing…

Think I’ll hold off on the Pheroproof until my next order. So far I’ve got Shine, Honesty, and Openness as definites and P76 (I think it’s 76 - is that the “focusing” pheromone?), TAF, TAH, 105…maybe 74 as strong possibilities for the first round.

Can someone explain the basic effects of CTTM? How are they different than Shine, Openness, or Honesty, for example?

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**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2007, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/12 "2007-04-06T22:26:16Z")

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p.s. Lor - I may have to answer your Tom Jones with a Robert Goulet.

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2007, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/13 "2007-04-07T23:56:53Z")

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> [@Holmes](#):
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> Thanks (somewhat belatedly). 105 sounds to be just what the witchdoctor ordered. What differences have you found between 138 and 140?
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> Which Instant Shine/Instant Honesty viscosity should I go with (regular or 2x)? Is the latter strength overkill for most purposes or is more really more in this case?
> 
> Can someone explain the basic effects of CTTM? How are they different than Shine, Openness, or Honesty, for example?

MX138 and MX140: I don’t have a clear sense of a difference between them, except that I was more aroused wearing MX138. Both of them are excellent mood enhancers, though, without tipping over into the giddy-spacey territory. Some posts indicate that the Liquid Sunshine series might be sexually dimorphic (the men and the women were somewhat divided as to which ones they had good results with).

Lots of people seem to like Instant Honesty x2 or x4 - not sure about Instant Shine. Instant Shine is the shortest-lived (I think) of all the Instant line and there was some talk about Androtics making it in an oil base someday so it would last longer on the skin. I don’t know whether getting it in double strength would make it last any longer - I’d guess not.

About CTTM-2: It’s 50/50 alpha and beta androstenol, and nothing else. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and IH both contain alpha, beta, and some other refinements to help smooth out its effects.

Did a a search for MHarris posting on CTTM-2 and came up with lots of stuff, including this thread where he lays it out:

> [@MX102 vs. A314, Come Talk To Me vs. Honesty & Openness, Straight Vs. Gay?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx102-vs-a314-come-talk-to-me-vs-honesty-openness-straight-vs-gay/1127):
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> Hi, im a new user…not yet bought the products. Is there a difference between : [MX102](https://pheromonelabs.com/) - MX 105 - Experimental A314 Mix Kit (MX102-5) and the [Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) Classic" - Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men ? It’s said on the selling site that : MX 102 is a translation of the original A314 formula.? does it mean there is no difference? And does someone have the description of the: PRE-RELEASE [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) (Mix 2) ( Come Talk To Me Mix 2)? and how is it different from [instant openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and [instant…](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)

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**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 2:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/14 "2007-04-12T02:29:08Z")

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Extremely helpful. Thanks for the links, too!

I thought that Instant Honesty and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) might render CTTM obsolete, but apparently not.

Both 138 and 140 sound good, but are they gone forever? (Say it ain’t so!)

I can’t seem to find much info on P76. I could swear I read somewhere that it enhanced focus, but I haven’t been able to locate that post. Ah well…

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/15 "2007-04-12T02:41:39Z")

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Not only are MX138 and MX140 not gone, they are available in full size now!

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**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 2:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/16 "2007-04-12T02:49:47Z")

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Where abouts? It says the Sunshine pack is out of stock.

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/17 "2007-04-12T03:04:24Z")

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They’re listed individually here. This page shows them as To-Go size but when you click to order, it gives you a dropdown box where you can choose 30 mL size.

[Experimental Test Mixes :: Androtics Direct/SmartMones](https://a314.com/)

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**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 6:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/18 "2007-04-13T18:08:26Z")

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Great! Thanks.

I wonder how MX138 or MX140 would work with MX172 or 173…

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**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-come-in-pieces/2724/19 "2007-04-13T22:11:31Z")

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> [@Holmes](#):
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> I can’t seem to find much info on P76. I could swear I read somewhere that it enhanced focus, but I haven’t been able to locate that post. Ah well…

I don’t know about P76, but TAF is REALLY good for increasing focus…
