# I did OD on purpose **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 8, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-od-on-purpose/33920 "2009-11-08T18:06:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Stud\_Muffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@Stud\_Muffin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stud_Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-od-on-purpose/33920/1 "2009-11-08T18:06:49Z")
I had 4 drops on of A314, 4 sprays of CTTM2, 2 Sprays of IH 2x, 2 IS x2 2 IFM …lol last night at a bar, and I usually get quite a lot of IOI’s when out but this night I did actual feel like a ghost lol. I had to pick my friends up and they were deffo talking a lot and a lot of laughs in the car. I noticed I felt more aggressive, I seemed to get pissed of more easy in the bar and club, felt more angry at dickheads, more ego on my part. When I am very much usually keeping my ego in check. Oh and I saw one girl look at me and give me a look of disgust lol, she was not a stunner her self may I add, I didn’t take it to heart because I see my self as quite good looking, I am 6ft tall, athletic build, I am quite a friendly, positive person, deffo since I have taken the spiritual path 😃 Yeah I basically… felt unnoticed, it was not a nice feeling, as I heard on here, it did feel like I was a ghost. People moving out of the way, no one looking at me, I basically weren’t there! lol. Even couple of days before where I was just using 2 drops of A314, I felt like a ghost as well, family where quite submissive, I felt it from my dad the most, and I do have to say I didn’t like it! Oh and one of my friends ended up getting a banging head ach, and he left real early!.. He still felt it the next day so… maybe it wern’t my [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) lol. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-od-on-purpose/33920/2 "2009-11-08T18:21:55Z")
Hmmm. Interesting report. I find it kind of odd that you OD’d because you had a LOT of buffering. I think what happened was that you may have come off as a bit too beta male, despite the A314. Or the A314 balanced out well with the buffers and it was just a normal bar night. You might just be thinking you ghosted because you weren’t getting hits like you may with normal phero use. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-od-on-purpose/33920/3 "2009-11-08T18:37:16Z")
That mix screams out Beta even with the four drops of A314, you should’ve added some -none to balance all that sweetness. It’s all about balance, and with this takes practice. ---
**Author:** ![Stud\_Muffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@Stud\_Muffin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stud_Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-od-on-purpose/33920/4 "2009-11-08T20:19:38Z")
So what kind of impression does this beta give? And this happened because I added IH, CTTM2? ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-od-on-purpose/33920/5 "2009-11-08T20:25:22Z")
> [@Stud\_Muffin](#): > > So what kind of impression does this beta give? And this happened because I added IH, CTTM2? It happened because of > [@](#): > > 4 sprays of [CTTM2](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) , > 2 Sprays of [IH](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) 2x, > 2 IS x2 > 2 [IFM](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) In simplest terms, Alpha is dominant, Beta is subordinate. So instead of seeing you as a strong male of high value (Alpha), you were viewed as weak or not worth the girl’s time (Beta). Beta males will become friends, Alpha males will become boyfriends and lovers. Of course this is just a rough explanation. -None (the A314) gives off an alpha vibe. -Nol (Everything else) gives off more of an approachable friendly vibe. Too much -nol and you seem like a pushover. BUT, too much -none and you seem intimidating or completely out of their league. I actually had a similar experience last night (in my journal) where I could tell I was coming off too beta, so I added a spray of TUTH (to-go bottles are great) and it fixed it right up. As miko put it: > [@mikotorocks714](#): > > It’s all about balance, and with this takes practice. ---
**Author:** ![Stud\_Muffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@Stud\_Muffin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stud_Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-od-on-purpose/33920/6 "2009-11-08T21:21:15Z")
Ahhhhhhh it all makes sense now! Rather sooner then later eh? lol 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rhuang22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rhuang22/32/636_2.png) [@rhuang22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rhuang22)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-od-on-purpose/33920/7 "2009-11-08T21:51:27Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > It happened because of > In simplest terms, Alpha is dominant, Beta is subordinate. So instead of seeing you as a strong male of high value (Alpha), you were viewed as weak or not worth the girl’s time (Beta). Beta males will become friends, Alpha males will become boyfriends and lovers. Of course this is just a rough explanation. > > -None (the A314) gives off an alpha vibe. -Nol (Everything else) gives off more of an approachable friendly vibe. Too much -nol and you seem like a pushover. BUT, too much -none and you seem intimidating or completely out of their league. I actually had a similar experience last night (in my journal) where I could tell I was coming off too beta, so I added a spray of TUTH (to-go bottles are great) and it fixed it right up. > > As miko put it: Now this tempts me to do a straight TUTH, A314, and [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) mix, no social buffers. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-od-on-purpose/33920/8 "2009-11-08T21:55:56Z")
> [@rhuang22](#): > > Now this tempts me to do a straight TUTH, A314, and P83 mix, no social buffers. Funny you say this because after last night I now plan on using only -none at bars and instead of carrying a to-go of TUTH, i’ll bring a to-go of CTTM. That way if I notice I’m too “-noned up” I can always buffer it as I see fit. I suggest you do the same. That way the night isn’t a bust if it ends up being too much -none. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-od-on-purpose/33920/9 "2009-11-08T22:53:51Z")
Scotties pretty much said it all, only thing is A314 is mostly Androsterone with very little -none, it has -none yes but from what I’ve read it’s a very small amount so you could’ve gotten away with a spray or two of TUTH. Probably even just one since TUTH is pretty tough to work with and get it right because it’s so -none potent. However, it all depends on each person and really the best thing to do is practice and learn from your mistakes. If anything you seeing all those people ignore should be a good thing, because it just goes to show just how well these pheromones really do work. > [@scotties123](#): > > It happened because of > In simplest terms, Alpha is dominant, Beta is subordinate. So instead of seeing you as a strong male of high value (Alpha), you were viewed as weak or not worth the girl’s time (Beta). Beta males will become friends, Alpha males will become boyfriends and lovers. Of course this is just a rough explanation. > > -None (the A314) gives off an alpha vibe. -Nol (Everything else) gives off more of an approachable friendly vibe. Too much -nol and you seem like a pushover. BUT, too much -none and you seem intimidating or completely out of their league. I actually had a similar experience last night (in my journal) where I could tell I was coming off too beta, so I added a spray of TUTH (to-go bottles are great) and it fixed it right up. > > As miko put it: ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-od-on-purpose/33920/10 "2009-11-08T22:56:30Z")
Yep, good idea. From learning from my mistakes in the past I’ve done the same. Always have with me a to-go of IO, CTTM, or better yet my fave Spaceland because of its high dose of Alpha Androstenol. > [@scotties123](#): > > Funny you say this because after last night I now plan on using only -none at bars and instead of carrying a to-go of TUTH, i’ll bring a to-go of CTTM. That way if I notice I’m too “-noned up” I can always buffer it as I see fit. I suggest you do the same. That way the night isn’t a bust if it ends up being too much -none.