# I did something wrong last night **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 22, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382 "2009-02-22T18:07:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/1 "2009-02-22T18:07:27Z")
Hmmm… I went out to a very busy, very happening bar last night. I was pretty excited about going out and having a good time, putting my mind off of my upcoming move, my job and all the travel I’m about to go on, my tg, life, etc. I just wanted to have some fun and chat/hang out. In the past, I have never had any problem going out alone and chatting up many different people. Not a soul approached me. I had a good amount of strong looks, but nothing further, even with smiles, friendly looks, my hunting outfit (as Xiphoid calls hers) of tight skinny jeans, tucked into high stiletto boots, a low cut shirt and wonderful pushup bra. Seeing as how, in the past, I’ve done just fine here w/out pheros, and last night I was left well alone, something must have happened Phero-wise. The only good thing throughout the night was that I had excellent, impeccable service from the bartenders. They were all a little extra nice to me. (it wasn’t pity for the single girl. 🙂 ) Here’s what I was wearing: 40mcg TAA 17.5 mcg TAF 50 mcg p86 2 sprays CTTM mix2 (mcg?) 3 sprays IS/a 6 drops EoW rubbed between wrists & up on neck, very lightly covered on wrists only. Self effects were great! I was upbeat, happy, focused - in a calm, mellow way. I wasn’t super perky, but definitely happy in a groovy-let’s live way. I love the self effects from IS/a - I feel sultry and super-extra-confident. There’s nothing in the world that will stop me. However, I think I can’t wear IS/a in a social setting… I think it puts out more of an “I will kill you with this here bar napkin” vibe, that I already have too much of. 🙂 Even smiling, even perky, even in a dress and high heels, even cracking jokes, I’ve been told I’m way too intimidating. (I’m 5’2, 110, but I wear my job.) Looking back on my notes, I’ve only had one definite hit while wearing IS/a (coworker; he bought me lunch and followed me like a puppy. I always suspected he liked to be whipped!) I couldn’t get a read on my TG for whether IS/a or b was better in regards to him, but when I wore it around him once we had a really great conversation. It seemed to increase my status in his eyes, but it did nothing in terms of stoking romance (that I was aware of). The TAF helped to focus and extend the TAA, I felt. Normally pheros wear off me quickly, but this lasted a full 4 hours. I applied at 7:30, felt great till 9:45, then felt more mellow and “inside” myself, but still happy, still smiling. Around 10:30 I was yawning and left around 11:20. The bar I was at is pretty huge. It was packed, so I was around people all night long. Normal room temp. One thing - this bar can be a cesspool of vapidity. Total Orange County. Alright, opinions? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/2 "2009-02-22T18:19:30Z")
first off - > [@](#): > > I think it puts out more of an “I will kill you with this here bar napkin” vibe, that I already have too much of. you made me cry again. why cant you live in florida? 😃 anyhoo, my only experience here is that strong personalities like ours probably already put out there a fair amount of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). lightening up with doses will probably help, even though you dont feel them as much, others may be overwhelmed having _probably_ NOT been around these mixes. and- not for nothing- they dont have your metabolism. _androtics doesnt make weak stuff_. also note that alot of us get tired/yawny around just 20mu of P86. your dosage might have alot for most people to handle. i think since my personality is on the agressive side, TAH softens all my edges _in the right dose_. too much and people want greatful dead and cat stevens. IS/B - cops - P86 - TAA and your sense of humor should have people taking tickets to talk to you. just my 2 cents. ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/3 "2009-02-22T18:22:09Z")
Great report! Hmmm…My theory for the lack of approaching… If you already come across as intimidating maybe IS/a is just adding that extra alpha to tip the balance to “unapproachable”? Have you tried IS/b or TAH? As far as getting lots of lookst…cops & p86 😃 Yeah, that’ll do it 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/4 "2009-02-22T18:24:56Z")
LOL 🙂 I should sub the IS/a for b and try again… Also, drop down the p86. (I actually remember reading about the sedative effects, now that you bring it up…) What sort of dosage do you use with TAH? I did use to live in Florida, actually. South Florida. I worked in Miami and have stomped all over Broward and Palm Beach. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/5 "2009-02-22T18:28:17Z")
Thanks Xiphoid - My experiences with TAH have been unremarkable so far, but I haven’t tested it in a completely sexual-social setting like a bar or nightclub. I also dont get self effects from TAH (that I am consciously aware of), so I dont like it as much as the self effects from IS/a and TAL. _But_ those self effects are of the “Cross me. I dare you. Your family lineage will cease with you,” variety, so… not so effective I guess at “social hour.” 🙂 Time to review my notes again! ---
**Author:** ![AshesBlue](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ashesblue/32/895_2.png) [@AshesBlue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AshesBlue)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 9:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/6 "2009-02-23T09:10:59Z")
Ok I really have nothing to add here, but Ive read a few of your posts and it’s killin me here, what does TG stand for? I figure it’s your significant other, but for the life of me I cant figure out what TG means, and I _must_ know. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 9:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/7 "2009-02-23T09:36:18Z")
> [@AshesBlue](#): > > Ok I really have nothing to add here, but Ive read a few of your posts and it’s killin me here, what does TG stand for? > I figure it’s your significant other, but for the life of me I cant figure out what TG means, and I _must_ know. 😛 Target Guy (or Girl)😉 ---
**Author:** ![AshesBlue](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ashesblue/32/895_2.png) [@AshesBlue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AshesBlue)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/8 "2009-02-23T09:46:23Z")
> [@diamond](#): > > Target Guy (or Girl)😉 ohhhh ok thanks! I feel satisfied now lol. It was drivin me crazy. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/9 "2009-02-23T18:58:28Z")
Damn girl! Nice Avatar! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/10 "2009-02-23T23:02:26Z")
> [@Xiphoid](#): > > Great report! > > Hmmm…My theory for the lack of approaching… > If you already come across as intimidating maybe IS/a is just adding that extra alpha to tip the balance to “unapproachable”? Have you tried IS/b or TAH? > > As far as getting lots of lookst…cops & p86 😃 Yeah, that’ll do it 🙄 I agree with Xiphoid. Too much IS/a made you unapproachable. I’ll need to remember this myself when I go out with IS/a. My personality is already on the intimidating side. Gah! 😮 ---
**Author:** ![AshesBlue](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ashesblue/32/895_2.png) [@AshesBlue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AshesBlue)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/11 "2009-02-24T00:47:04Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > I agree with Xiphoid. Too much IS/a made you unapproachable. I’ll need to remember this myself when I go out with IS/a. My personality is already on the intimidating side. Gah! 😮 Ahhh that could possibly make sense for me too, Im a noob (obviously) so I really have no idea what Im doing, though Im trying to learn. What’s too much? What’s too little? Seems like there’s a large margin for error =/ > [@jlor1457](#): > > Damn girl! Nice Avatar! 🙂 Ha I know! Im glad there arent any hard fast rules here 🆒 and thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/12 "2009-02-24T01:00:05Z")
Well, three sprays was too much for me. I only had one definite hit at 2 sprays (to go bottle size). I need to work much more with TAH and IS/b to find my zone. If you’ve got that avatar, you’re definitely a TAL girl! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/13 "2009-02-24T02:45:40Z")
Hi, jlor. 🙂 I don’t think you did anything wrong. It’s all in a day’s work, right? And it ain’t nothin’ that can’t be fixed. 😉 A lot of girls who have naturally strong personalities need to go lower and/or temper TAL…including me. 😃 That’s why it’s always wise to start with one spray of anything. It’s the best way to gage the effects. You can then add sprays, one at a time, until you find your “sweet spot”. Once you figure out what each one does individually you can then combine them, in the proper dose, to best achieve the effect/reaction you’re looking for. So, with TAH that’s the way to begin. One spray straight to your neck…then try two. It’s the only way to accurately find your sweet spot.😉 Then when you feel you’ve got a handle on that, add one spray of IS/A _to the back of your head_ and see how you feel with the IS/B up front. I often use IS/A and balance the self effects with IS/B and/or MX135. Good luck testing and I hope that helps some. Bella ---
**Author:** ![AshesBlue](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ashesblue/32/895_2.png) [@AshesBlue](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AshesBlue)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/14 "2009-02-24T02:48:02Z")
> [@jlor1457](#): > > Well, three sprays was too much for me. I only had one definite hit at 2 sprays (to go bottle size). I need to work much more with TAH and IS/b to find my zone. > > If you’ve got that avatar, you’re definitely a TAL girl! 😛 Well youd think that right? Since it’s blatantly sexual and in your face, but if you notice the female is the one wearing the handcuffs. So Id like to be the one dominated (nothin’ heavy duty though). I’d like to try IS/B at some point. Once I figure these phero things out! So far Ive been the too lil/too much girl w/nothing to show for it. So you are naturally aggressive right? So how does IS/B affect you? ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/15 "2009-02-24T04:34:32Z")
> [@AshesBlue](#): > > Well youd think that right? Since it’s blatantly sexual and in your face, but if you notice the female is the one wearing the handcuffs. > So Id like to be the one dominated (nothin’ heavy duty though). > > I’d like to try IS/B at some point. Once I figure these phero things out! > So far Ive been the too lil/too much girl w/nothing to show for it. > > So you are naturally aggressive right? > So how does IS/B affect you? Have you tried working with just one product at just one spray and work your way up? That will help you to figure out the dosages. Then when you combine with other products you can half them so they’re effective and you dont OD ---
**Author:** ![CookieGirl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cookiegirl/32/1379_2.png) [@CookieGirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CookieGirl)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 5:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/16 "2009-02-24T05:03:30Z")
Have to agree with kitsune here, I think it’s VERY important to work up slowly. When I first started, I was too eager to see hits hits hits, so I just sprayed like crazy whenever I went out. And of course, ANYONE’s suggestion is only from self experience. Going out and slowing working your way up sprays is the only way to see what works for _you_. I find that I waste more trying to over-the-top nuts and working my way down, rather than slowly working my way up. This also helps me keep a much better track of what “hits” are actually hits from pheros, and what is established “norm” for me. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/17 "2009-02-24T05:22:31Z")
> [@CookieGirl](#): > > Have to agree with kitsune here, I think it’s VERY important to work up slowly. When I first started, I was too eager to see hits hits hits, so I just sprayed like crazy whenever I went out. > > And of course, ANYONE’s suggestion is only from self experience. Going out and slowing working your way up sprays is the only way to see what works for _you_. > > I find that I waste more trying to over-the-top nuts and working my way down, rather than slowly working my way up. This also helps me keep a much better track of what “hits” are actually hits from pheros, and what is established “norm” for me. Lol, oh the good old days when I grabbed my first bottles and sprayed like a mad women. Ok, so that was only a few weeks ago, but I was pretty crazy when I got my first products. I was like “I’m going to a party and I want everyone to pay attention to ME!” I was lucky the mix actually worked, but it doesn’t always work that way I suppose. If I look back at my report on that I’ll probably laugh because it’s probably way more then I would think to use now. ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 5:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/18 "2009-02-24T05:57:44Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Hi, jlor. 🙂 I don’t think you did anything wrong. It’s all in a day’s work, right? And it ain’t nothin’ that can’t be fixed. 😉 > > A lot of girls who have naturally strong personalities need to go lower and/or temper TAL…including me. 😃 That’s why it’s always wise to start with one spray of anything. It’s the best way to gage the effects. You can then add sprays, one at a time, until you find your “sweet spot”. Once you figure out what each one does individually you can then combine them, in the proper dose, to best achieve the effect/reaction you’re looking for. > > So, with TAH that’s the way to begin. One spray straight to your neck…then try two. It’s the only way to accurately find your sweet spot.😉 > Then when you feel you’ve got a handle on that, add one spray of IS/A _to the back of your head_ and see how you feel with the IS/B up front. I often use IS/A and balance the self effects with IS/B and/or MX135. > > Good luck testing and I hope that helps some. > > Bella Bella! OMG! _giggles_ I’ve, like, read **all** your posts, and, like, omg… 😛 Total phero crush on you - You have awesome reports and experiences. I totally dig your entries. 🙂 Nice to “talk” to you! My “sweet spot” with IS/a in a sexual/social way was two sprays to go. I did work up to that and wore only that for a bit to feel it out. Three sprays seems to be my “unapproachable/social status” vibe. I wasn’t ignored, so it wasn’t an OD. I just think that I was so “intimidating,” or somesuch that I was unapproachable. I wore three sprays IS/a around my TG several weeks back and it seemed to increase my status in his eyes. We had some long conversations about good business matters, which was great. However, he seemed more flirty (looking back on the reports) to IS/b or mx135. (And totally shut down around [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), with either IS a or b. Turns out Steve was totally spot on with that. Thanks Steve!) I really need to force myself to wear TAH stuff and make detailed observations. I don’t _like_ the self effects as much as IS/a - they’re harder to notice, but its a general mellowness, as opposed to a jolt of confidence and sexuality. But that’s just me pouting. 🙄 I actually dont wear them everyday. I should be around some good test subjects tomorrow though, so I’ll give it a try… I might keep IS/a at three sprays as a dose for when I am presenting my workshops. I generally am up front teaching workshops to oh, about 75 men. It might actually be great for that! And no, nothin’ that can’t be fixed! ALL days are good days - you learn from every one! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/19 "2009-02-24T06:01:56Z")
> [@AshesBlue](#): > > Well youd think that right? Since it’s blatantly sexual and in your face, but if you notice the female is the one wearing the handcuffs. > So Id like to be the one dominated (nothin’ heavy duty though). Uh huh… Someday I’ll show you how to “wiggle” out of them and turn the tables on your man… He’ll have the shock of his life! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![CookieGirl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cookiegirl/32/1379_2.png) [@CookieGirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CookieGirl)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 6:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382/20 "2009-02-24T06:10:17Z")
> [@jlor1457](#): > > Bella! OMG! _giggles_ I’ve, like, read **all** your posts, and, like, omg… 😛 > > Total phero crush on you - You have awesome reports and experiences. I totally dig your entries. 🙂 Nice to “talk” to you! HAHAHAHA, love it. I felt the same way when Bella first posted on my thread and totally brightened up my little Is/b-fail day. Fan club ! [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-did-something-wrong-last-night/26382.md?page=2)