# I dont understand... **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [October 29, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698 "2009-10-29T20:55:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AJ69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aj69/32/284_2.png) [@AJ69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AJ69)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698/1 "2009-10-29T20:55:54Z")
OK… I am new to this pheromone stuff… so dont mistake this honest question as being just silly… I really dont understand this. If you are in a regular sized living room with 10 people in it and someone lets out a fart… everyone would smell it… but no one would know who it belongs to… eventually you have to ask this question: “OK who cut one?” We would definitely notice it… and it would likely affect our behavior such as fanning the air with your hand, or opening a window, or pinching our noses… but how do we know the one that caused all of this? There is no magic fart trail back to the offending anus. why are phermones different from odors? What I mean is if [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) actually work, how does it translate into an attraction back to you the wearer if you are in a room full of other people? Why wouldnt a women smell it and then become attracted in general… maybe even to another guy in the room? How is the attraction or arousal etc “attached” to you??? Sorry if this is a stupid question. I was trying to do an analogy that people could relate to… wasnt meaning any disrespect. AJ69 PS- if this question has already been asked please reference me to that discussion- THANKS!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![lebleb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/59ef9b/32.png) [@lebleb](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lebleb)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698/2 "2009-10-29T22:23:57Z")
Hahahah…sorry I’m new as well but this post is f\*\*\*\*\*g funny…lol thanks for the laugh. P.S _I_am Also interested in knowing how does somebody know that’s its knew if there is a bunch of people in the room. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698/3 "2009-10-29T22:24:43Z")
Its not a stupid question really. It has been asked but finding it would be just as much work as just answering it LOL > [@](#): > > We would definitely notice it… and it would likely affect our behavior such as fanning the air with your hand, or opening a window, or pinching our noses… but how do we know the one that caused all of this? There is no magic fart trail back to the offending anus. Actually there is a magic fart trail leading back to the offending anus. No one has the guts or true desire to follow it though. Seriously think about it when someone farts in the room if you really wanted to know who did it and thought about it, you would know who did it. Asking out loud is just a uncomfortable response to it. Next time your in a room full of people and you smell one take a walk around the room and you will know who did it. Just dont make it obvious LOL The olfactory senses are not much different then the other senses you have. You see a light and you want to know where its coming from you follow the light trail to its source. Just because you yell out “hey where is that light coming from ?” dosent mean you cant figure it out. You hear screaming and you want to know where its coming so you follow the sound to the source. Works the same way with pheromones in a way except its not really the smell that triggers the reaction. It could smell like a fart and as long as the pheromone molecule was in there it would cause the same reaction. Truthfully I dont think farts have pheromone molecules though LOL Anywhoooo… Pheromones are tiny molecules derived from your hormones that are secreted and carried off the body. Now they can come from various substances like urine, semen, vaginal fluid, saliva and sweat. Pheromones sold here are synthetic. No one is standing around collecting these fluids in a cup to sell to you. 😃 The heat of the body makes these pheromone molecules diffuse from the body and enter the air. Other people inhale those pheromones and they go up the nasal passage to the brain. In the brain they connect with various neurotransmitters firing a emotional response or a feeling like arousal, attraction, happiness… etc etc. Its the feeling that causes the reaction not the actual scent. Now lets go back into that room of farters. Your in a room with a bunch of smelly people and your diffusing some sexy pheromones. Your dressed neat, you combed your hair, did all the men grooming stuff men do. The other guys in the room did all the same grooming. You however are leaving a sexy vapor trail that is causing a feeling. The ladies subconscious minds send up a hottie alert and they start looking about to find the source of this pleasant interesting feeling. They begin to follow that vapor trail because in there subconscious minds they know the prize is at the end of that trail. The closer they get the stronger the feeling until they follow that trail right to you. Now once they follow that trail its your job to charm them. If you act like a dick they wont be interested no matter how arousing you may be. Now you may be wondering well how do we know how to follow this feeling and why are they not aware of it. Just like all other mammals… Humans are born with the ability to communicate certain things pheromonally. Its how babies bond with there parents. Its how they know your in the room when they cant see you. As we grow older and all the other senses develop we rely a lot less on the olfactory senses. They go on doing there thing but we tend to not really think about them till someone farts or grandma makes a apple pie. If you really begin to pay attention to those senses you will begin to notice natural pheromones at work. That instant connection you feel with a person you just met and cant explain. The chemistry between two lovers who are totally wrong for each other in every other aspect. Its why laughter is contagious. Its why when one person is unreasonably afraid of something everyone else begins to feel uneasy about it. I could go on and on… These are all signals the body is sending that others in the room can pick up on and they cause emotions in us. Now that that has been said… While pheromones are amazing and do cause all these neat feelings they are just part of the whole human package. So using [synthetic pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) just gives you a edge on the competition. They get you noticed. They wont do all the work for you though. Being able to control the signal your sending does make it a lot more easy and fun though. 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698/4 "2009-10-30T06:02:19Z")
That is a great way of saying how these Phero’s are taken by other people in a room or anyplace. Any new person that is starting to play with Phero’s should give this a read. Nominated ---
**Author:** ![AJ69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aj69/32/284_2.png) [@AJ69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AJ69)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 1:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698/5 "2009-10-30T13:54:30Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Its not a stupid question really. It has been asked but finding it would be just as much work as just answering it LOL > > Actually there is a magic fart trail leading back to the offending anus. No one has the guts or true desire to follow it though. > > Seriously think about it when someone farts in the room if you really wanted to know who did it and thought about it, you would know who did it. Asking out loud is just a uncomfortable response to it. Next time your in a room full of people and you smell one take a walk around the room and you will know who did it. Just dont make it obvious LOL > > The olfactory senses are not much different then the other senses you have. > > You see a light and you want to know where its coming from you follow the light trail to its source. Just because you yell out “hey where is that light coming from ?” dosent mean you cant figure it out. > > You hear screaming and you want to know where its coming so you follow the sound to the source. > > Works the same way with pheromones in a way except its not really the smell that triggers the reaction. It could smell like a fart and as long as the pheromone molecule was in there it would cause the same reaction. > Truthfully I dont think farts have pheromone molecules though LOL > > Anywhoooo… > > Pheromones are tiny molecules derived from your hormones that are secreted and carried off the body. Now they can come from various substances like urine, semen, vaginal fluid, saliva and sweat. Pheromones sold here are synthetic. No one is standing around collecting these fluids in a cup to sell to you. 😃 > > The heat of the body makes these pheromone molecules diffuse from the body and enter the air. Other people inhale those pheromones and they go up the nasal passage to the brain. In the brain they connect with various neurotransmitters firing a emotional response or a feeling like arousal, attraction, happiness… etc etc. > > Its the feeling that causes the reaction not the actual scent. Now lets go back into that room of farters. > > Your in a room with a bunch of smelly people and your diffusing some sexy pheromones. Your dressed neat, you combed your hair, did all the men grooming stuff men do. > > The other guys in the room did all the same grooming. You however are leaving a sexy vapor trail that is causing a feeling. The ladies subconscious minds send up a hottie alert and they start looking about to find the source of this pleasant interesting feeling. They begin to follow that vapor trail because in there subconscious minds they know the prize is at the end of that trail. The closer they get the stronger the feeling until they follow that trail right to you. > > Now once they follow that trail its your job to charm them. If you act like a dick they wont be interested no matter how arousing you may be. > > Now you may be wondering well how do we know how to follow this feeling and why are they not aware of it. > > Just like all other mammals… Humans are born with the ability to communicate certain things pheromonally. Its how babies bond with there parents. Its how they know your in the room when they cant see you. As we grow older and all the other senses develop we rely a lot less on the olfactory senses. They go on doing there thing but we tend to not really think about them till someone farts or grandma makes a apple pie. > > If you really begin to pay attention to those senses you will begin to notice natural pheromones at work. > > That instant connection you feel with a person you just met and cant explain. > > The chemistry between two lovers who are totally wrong for each other in every other aspect. > > Its why laughter is contagious. > > Its why when one person is unreasonably afraid of something everyone else begins to feel uneasy about it. > > I could go on and on… > > These are all signals the body is sending that others in the room can pick up on and they cause emotions in us. > > Now that that has been said… While pheromones are amazing and do cause all these neat feelings they are just part of the whole human package. So using synthetic pheromones just gives you a edge on the competition. They get you noticed. They wont do all the work for you though. Being able to control the signal your sending does make it a lot more easy and fun though. 😉 > > Tisha Hi Tisha! Thanks for such a great reply! I really appreciate your very nice informative reply to my question. I suppose that in a large enough room where everyone stayed still and spread out as far apart from each other as possible, then I could come to a pretty good suspicion of who “cut da cheese”… but…in a room where two or three are in close proximity while several others walked around passing by them… I really doubt I could know for certain who it was that cut one. 😃 The fart would diffuse into the air… perhaps fanned by air movement or ventilation… I really dont think there is a trail back as much as a spreading cloud which shifts and moves with the air currents… As I said, if several are standing together while two people walk by them… you really wouldnt know who did it. But I learned alot from your post! I think what you are saying is that the subconscious/instinctive pheromone response drives a woman to seek out the male with the pheromones in a way that a fart could never do…yes? Your post brought up another question… we have these natural pheromones on us… does it take really hard scrubbing with soap and water to remove them? or will just a quick rinse with no soap also remove them? I guess I am wondering if there is anything there to make them “stick” on you unless scrubbed off? Thanks again also for the examples you gave… helped me to understand a few things… AJ69 ---
**Author:** ![AJ69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aj69/32/284_2.png) [@AJ69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AJ69)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 2:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698/6 "2009-10-30T14:03:46Z")
> [@lebleb](#): > > Hahahah…sorry I’m new as well but this post is f\*\*\*\*\*g funny…lol thanks for the laugh. > > P.S _I_am Also interested in knowing how does somebody know that’s its knew if there is a bunch of people in the room. my intention was to ask a serious question… but if it gave you a laugh then great! I am glad I could entertain you \*L nice to know I am not the only one with a quirky sense of humor… btw… Tisha gave an excellent explanation to our question. AJ69 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698/7 "2009-10-30T22:28:59Z")
Your Welcome 🙂 > [@](#): > > But I learned alot from your post! I think what you are saying is that the subconscious/instinctive pheromone response drives a woman to seek out the male with the pheromones in a way that a fart could never do…yes? Yes 😃 > [@](#): > > Your post brought up another question… we have these natural pheromones on us… does it take really hard scrubbing with soap and water to remove them? or will just a quick rinse with no soap also remove them? Depends on which pheromones your wearing. Anone which is the male sex pheromone is a little stickier then the other molecules but still diffuses. You will find this one in products like AMMO TUTH A314 IJ and some of the test mixes. While most will come off in normal diffusions or with soap and water, Anone can end up building up over a period of consistant use. Witch hazel or Peroxicide on a cotton ball will get it off if you feel you getting build up. If you get it on your cloths use oxiclean. The rest come off pretty much with regular washing. > [@](#): > > I guess I am wondering if there is anything there to make them “stick” on you unless scrubbed off? No while anone is stickier it still diffuses enough to produce hits. You dont want them to stick to you, you want them to diffuse off the body so you dont have to be standing right next to your target. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![AJ69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aj69/32/284_2.png) [@AJ69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AJ69)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698/8 "2009-11-04T18:05:57Z")
Hi Tisha, Thanks again… AJ69 ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698/9 "2009-11-04T19:59:45Z")
I’ve always seen pheromones as something that set the tone - in general, for everyone that is exposed to them. And I actually think that it’s pretty rare that someone can find the source of the mones. That’s where the so often cited ‘congruency’ comes into play - if you behave congruently to what your pheromones suggest, you are much easier made out as the source of the sexy smell. In one-on-one settings everything is much clearer - the feelings the mones are causing are much easier associated to you, and I think mones in these settings are more powerful and effective than in bigger groups or even big clubs, where it’s nearly impossible to clearly find the source. Sooo… what I wanted to say is: In surroundings that make it hard to trace the source of the mones, they pretty much set the tone, but they aren’t associated to you. That leaves you to act on that and ‘work the mones’ as they say. In one-on-one settings the mones (and what they are causing) can be easily associated to you. That doesn’t mean that you don’t have to work them, but it’s far easier than in a larger setting. ---
**Author:** ![ladyofthewoods](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ladyofthewoods/32/1288_2.png) [@ladyofthewoods](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladyofthewoods)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698/10 "2009-11-04T21:50:32Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > that trail right to you. > If you act like a dick they wont be interested no matter how arousing you may be. Great one Tisha! I just spat a mouthful of tea all over my desk…😛 So true though… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 9:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698/11 "2009-11-05T09:45:09Z")
> [@ladyofthewoods](#): > > Great one Tisha! I just spat a mouthful of tea all over my desk…😛 > > So true though… Thanks LOL Its true though and it the same as saying be congruent as Bob pointed out. I get a lot of people asking me about congruency and saying “well if you have to act different then normal maybe thats what is attracting them and not the pheromones” Those interested in pheromones need to remember. Suppose your using Ishine to give off a natural charismatic warm vibe but your not acting this way. Your giving mixed signals. While pheromones do cause attraction they are only part of the picture of attraction. We also are attracted by other aspects of a person. A person who makes a lot of Taa naturally and sends that signal doesnt have to act different because they are naturally congruent with there signature. So if your sitting there acting like a dick then your not being congruent with Ishine. Targets will get the mixed signal and most will pass you by. THey still know the signal is coming from that person but they cant match it with the behavoir of the person so it just gives a sort of weirdo vibe. This is why some people claim certain pheromones when worn correctly repel some people. There is more to it then just spraying it on. 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![ladyofthewoods](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ladyofthewoods/32/1288_2.png) [@ladyofthewoods](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladyofthewoods)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698/12 "2009-11-05T15:29:46Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Thanks LOL Its true though and it the same as saying be congruent as Bob pointed out. I get a lot of people asking me about congruency and saying “well if you have to act different then normal maybe thats what is attracting them and not the pheromones” > > Those interested in pheromones need to remember. Suppose your using Ishine to give off a natural charismatic warm vibe but your not acting this way. Your giving mixed signals. While pheromones do cause attraction they are only part of the picture of attraction. We also are attracted by other aspects of a person. > > A person who makes a lot of Taa naturally and sends that signal doesnt have to act different because they are naturally congruent with there signature. So if your sitting there acting like a dick then your not being congruent with Ishine. Targets will get the mixed signal and most will pass you by. THey still know the signal is coming from that person but they cant match it with the behavoir of the person so it just gives a sort of weirdo vibe. This is why some people claim certain pheromones when worn correctly repel some people. There is more to it then just spraying it on. 😉 > > Tisha Well, just like in life, there is no magic bullet to archive whatever it is that you want. You still have to put the effort in & go after it. It’s just like manifesting. You can sit & meditate & visualize all you want, if you don’t back it up with action, it will never happen. ---
**Author:** ![jakeable83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@jakeable83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jakeable83)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698/13 "2009-11-05T16:43:26Z")
I dig it ladyofthewoods… another believer in the law of attraction let me ask (i know this isn’t the proper forum for this but im always curious) whats your favorite book on the subject? ---
**Author:** ![ladyofthewoods](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ladyofthewoods/32/1288_2.png) [@ladyofthewoods](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ladyofthewoods)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698/14 "2009-11-05T20:23:54Z")
> [@jakeable83](#): > > I dig it ladyofthewoods… another believer in the law of attraction let me ask (i know this isn’t the proper forum for this but im always curious) whats your favorite book on the subject? I like the Mike Dooley stuff. “Notes from the Universe” was good, & I’m now reading “Infinite Possibilities”. I’m not done with it yet, but it’s better than “Notes” ---
**Author:** ![jakeable83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@jakeable83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jakeable83)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-dont-understand/33698/15 "2009-11-05T20:42:03Z")
thats awesome i get that e-mail every day i was even on a conference call he gave a little while back which was great until the technical difficulties but i’m definatly a fan of him as well… although i haven’t read infinate possibilities yet but its on my list