# I got a ONS with this mix **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 28, 2009, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844 "2009-09-28T01:59:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/1 "2009-09-28T01:59:40Z")
IFM x3 Spaceland x1 Instant openness x1 this is one of my new killer combinations. when i’m in close social situations this makes everyone relax around me. at the end of the night i carried the girl i had only met hours earlier into my room and we did the bad deed all night. IFM or androstienone with some alphanol and just a little betanol just gets me in the door like nothing else with the ladies. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/2 "2009-09-28T02:39:08Z")
Hi perronec! good stuff. you are a lucky guy to have grabbed a 30ml bottle before they sold out. That is a light and very effective mix. The Spaceland balances any possible downers from IFM. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/3 "2009-09-28T03:09:28Z")
I never can understand why people mix Spaceland with [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)… they’re practically the same thing, just at different doses. Basically your mix is some androstadienone and a lot of alpha androstenol. There’s also a negligible amount of Beta androstenol… That is a very good mix, especially for younger women, and it gets even better if you add in some Instant Shine or TAA. ---
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 11:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/4 "2009-09-29T11:10:04Z")
the Instant openness was actually a mistake. I sprayed it on first thinking i would just be social, but immediately remembered i had been wanting to do a high Anol IFM mix. so i changed over to spaceland and then added the IFM. I figured for the sake of being accurate I would include it in the written recipe. the crowd was all actually older than me, but it was interesting to see how they became so much more excited when my attention turned on to them. I actually got this bottle years ago, but I’ve only discovered its true power recently. I’ve got about half of it left, and when it runs out i’ll be replacing it with some straight androstienone at around 20mcg/spray. ---
**Author:** ![matthie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5ac83/32.png) [@matthie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/matthie)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 11:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/5 "2009-09-29T11:18:13Z")
Gee, i’ve never thought of using A-nol with Androstadienone. I’ve always known they bring great results individually but have not thought of combining both! Great mix Perronec, as usual! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 12:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/6 "2009-09-29T12:11:22Z")
> [@perronec](#): > > IFM x3 > Spaceland x1 > Instant openness x1 > > this is one of my new killer combinations. when i’m in close social situations this makes everyone relax around me. at the end of the night i carried the girl i had only met hours earlier into my room and we did the bad deed all night. > > IFM or androstienone with some alphanol and just a little betanol just gets me in the door like nothing else with the ladies. Do you remember your application points, P? ---
**Author:** ![dude](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dude/32/2011_2.png) [@dude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dude)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 12:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/7 "2009-09-29T12:40:35Z")
Perronec have you tried IFM x3 with high dose beta-nol? ---
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 12:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/8 "2009-09-29T12:52:19Z")
> [@dude](#): > > Perronec have you tried IFM x3 with high dose beta-nol? I haven’t yet but i could easily. ---
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/9 "2009-09-29T12:54:01Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Do you remember your application points, P? IFM to the back of the head Spaceland to top of head all sprays in the hair ---
**Author:** ![lukus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e4f/32.png) [@lukus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lukus)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/10 "2009-09-29T14:19:01Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I never can understand why people mix Spaceland with Instant Openness… they’re practically the same thing, just at different doses. I think most people buying pre-mixed pheromones dont look into the contents /Get an understanding of the single pheromone characteristics and thus rely upon the intended use of branded products. I know when I first bought my first batch of Pheromones, which was Turn up the heat and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), I probably knew what pheromones were in it but never paid too much attention, I simply went along with their intended uses. Only when I was more familiar with being able to mix your own after browsing these forums that I focused on single pheromones and characteristics. Then, after wanting to know what was actually in Androtic’s branded products that I came across a couple of threads listing their contents and in some cases, the specific ratios. Only at that point was I aware IH, IO and CTTM2 have the same two pheromones but at differernt ratios… People just need a gentle push in the right direction before they start mixing branded pheromones IMHO… ---
**Author:** ![Smerc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7993a0/32.png) [@Smerc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smerc)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/11 "2009-10-23T16:56:57Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I never can understand why people mix Spaceland with Instant Openness… they’re practically the same thing, just at different doses. Sorry to bump this old, old thread. Was curious about purchasing IO and Spaceland until I read this. Should I scratch purchasing IO and try for IH ? I basically am getting most of the main spray products and will just mix them to determine what works for me, but if Spaceland is a more potent brother of IO , should I even bother? ---
**Author:** ![dude](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dude/32/2011_2.png) [@dude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dude)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/12 "2009-10-23T18:00:39Z")
From what I’ve read spaceland is heavy alpha androstenol. You should get IH instead to try something different. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/13 "2009-10-24T04:52:59Z")
IO is alpha nol at about 4.5 mcg/spray and beta nol at about 0.5 mcg/spray, my best guess. Spaceland is supposed to be 50 mcg per spray of alpha nol with clary sage to enhance it. It’s not always about what’s more potent with [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). More potent doesn’t always work better. Having both IO and Spaceland is worthwhile for the range of options it affords. But, IH is very good stuff too. ---
**Author:** ![silentscope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/silentscope/32/2218_2.png) [@silentscope](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/silentscope)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/14 "2009-10-24T05:32:54Z")
What are ONS? ---
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 7:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/15 "2009-10-24T07:03:36Z")
ONS = One Night Stands. I like the cleary sage effects, I’m just not too keen on the smell sometimes. I have some IOx4 and that is magic when I don’t want to smell like a hippy. The clary sage very obviously does make a difference (I tend to be much more lethargic with Spaceland, but more out there and active with IO). The only reason I can see someone mixing IO with Spaceland is if they wanted a higher alphanol:clary sage ratio. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/16 "2009-10-24T15:10:44Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > IO is alpha nol at about 4.5 mcg/spray and beta nol at about 0.5 mcg/spray, my best guess. Spaceland is supposed to be 50 mcg per spray of alpha nol with clary sage to enhance it. The website says that [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) contains 15mcg per spray and people have wrote that it is a 70/30 split of anol and bnol, so I always just presumed it was 10.5mcg of anol with 4.5mcg of bnol . ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 9:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-a-ons-with-this-mix/32844/17 "2009-10-25T09:38:59Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > The website says that Instant Openness contains 15mcg per spray and people have wrote that it is a 70/30 split of anol and bnol, so I always just presumed it was 10.5mcg of anol with 4.5mcg of bnol . Well… I did not see the mcg content listed, so I’m guessing they put that up after I made my guess. and… to the best of my knowledge, IO is 90/10, not 70/30. But maybe they changed that, too. lol