# I got the biggest IOI ever!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 24, 2006, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951 "2006-11-24T19:37:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 1

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/1 "2006-11-24T19:37:01Z")

</div>

I was in class, i wore:  
2 x TUTH v1.1 (2.5mcg)  
2 x Mx102 (this is a cooler version of a314 because it’s more volatile)  
I mixed it all together over my forearms and chest.

When i got to class, i pretended i wanted to talk to this guy after passing infront of “the” FREAKING PERFECT SEXY BABE and i’m like “yo man, i’m comming over to site with you”, the girl actually calls out “no, your sitting beside me!”. At this point i was 100% sure TUTH was working great, the IOI i was getting from her were MASSIVE, she was spinning and playing with her hair like crazy, her hair was turning so fast it looked like a fan, jkjk, but there was the “please fuck me boy” in the air. She kept turning to look at me when i wasn’t looking. So i was like “hahahah, i’m going to turna around quick and catch her looking at me”, so i did and she saw that i saw her looking at me. she looked really freaking horny, and when i turned to talk to her, she almost seem terrified, gigly, horny, all red and wanting sex really badly and was mentaly cluless as what to say!

Conclusion:  
TUTH + MX102 = intense IOI!!!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2006, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/2 "2006-11-25T02:34:20Z")

</div>

I have been thinking that combo would work well. Glad to hear you got a nice response. I’ll try it when I get a chance.

Keep those reports coming.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sunny/32/929_2.png) [@Sunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunny)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2006, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/3 "2006-11-25T07:13:37Z")

</div>

Great hit, Thomas!

I assume you were quite intimidating to many average girls - but that’s exactly what makes you so interesting for the top one.

Risky but fun, when it works.

I can remember a few times when a girl couldn’t stop showing IOIs while her bf was right next to her - and VERY confused (and she had a good looking bf and a good relationship).

I am going to try your mix tonight, but add some [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Shine (for myself) and TAF (it seems to intensify sexual experience very much for me - will see how it works on my date…).

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2006, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/4 "2006-11-25T19:51:39Z")

</div>

ive tried this.

works well with older women. esp professional latin women. =P

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2006, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/5 "2006-11-25T21:25:08Z")

</div>

> [@thomaslavoie](#):
>
> Conclusion:  
> TUTH + MX102 = intense IOI!!!

Great post - I’m going to have to file this one away for future reference – but I wonder if TUTH would work _that_ well with A314 or the forthcoming “Royal” mix?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/6 "2006-12-02T00:02:57Z")

</div>

sorry about the “no reply”, my computer was broken.

HOLLY MOLLY, i used only TUTH with the “uber hot sexy babe” and she started flirting like CRAZY!!! This other really hot girl that i secretly find freaking hot talked to me alot, this other girl that goes for “the best males” was all over me!

The “uber hot sexy babe” inner shiness was gone cause i wasnt wearing mx102 so she was touching me and being REALLY nice and crazy horny on me.

Conclusion: if you want to release the female beast in a women, don’t use mx102.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 12:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/7 "2006-12-02T00:06:45Z")

</div>

> [@thomaslavoie](#):
>
> sorry about the “no reply”, my computer was broken.
> 
> HOLLY MOLLY, i used only Turn Up The Heat with the “uber hot sexy babe” and she started flirting like CRAZY!!! This other really hot girl that i secretly find freaking hot talked to me alot, this other girl that goes for “the best males” was all over me!
> 
> The “uber hot sexy babe” inner shiness was gone cause i wasnt wearing mx102 so she was touching me and being REALLY nice and crazy horny on me.

Hey thomaslovie, I thought you were using 1/4 to 1/3 of a spray for TUTH and MX102 before. What made you increase your dosage to 2 sprays. And what was your dosage this time?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/8 "2006-12-02T00:10:12Z")

</div>

> [@Sunny](#):
>
> I assume you were quite intimidating to many average girls - but that’s exactly what makes you so interesting for the top one.
> 
> Risky but fun, when it works.

Yes, only the FREAKING HOT girls keep eye contact, the others are TERRIFIED!!! They move their eyes away instantly and do not DARE look back in my direction for dozens of minutes. I have re applyed my mix, I think 0.7 spray mx102 and 1.7 spray of TUTH works better because there aren’t enough “uber hot sexy chicks” in this world, so less mx102 is better. I have found that keeping the TUTH bottle in my winter coat and minutes before meeting a chick, i spray 1 2.5mcg spray, it works GREAT and getting her interest, no need for mx102.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 12:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/9 "2006-12-02T00:19:26Z")

</div>

> [@nbully79](#):
>
> Hey thomaslovie, I thought you were using 1/4 to 1/3 of a spray for Turn Up The Heat and MX102 before. What made you increase your dosage to 2 sprays. And what was your dosage this time?

Yes, i was using small doses. But the resultats were not perfect. I finaly figured out what works best for me on most of the people. I will explain my new ways of “pheromoning”. For example, too much mx102 kills my chances with 95% of chicks and “seals the deal” with 1%, this 1% comprised of the hottest females you can find, it scares the shit out of other “normal” chicks. I have also figured out that you should use from 1 to 1.7 sprays of TUTH. Start out by applying 1 spray, then 0.7 sprays 3 hours later (press the spray nozzle a tiny bit more than halfway). So if you want to get “the pornstar”, use a bit of mx102, if you want to get any hot or normal chick, use TUTH.

Conclusion: i have a ton of fun with only a spray of TUTH minutes before meeting a girl, and i apply a bit more 3 hours later.😃

Good luck.

P.S. TUTH can make you social life very complicated. Dont make the same mistake when wearing TUTH and being VERY agressive towards a really hot chick that started a conversation while blaming you for something you didnt do. I got REALLY pissed and was ready to tare down a wall.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sunny/32/929_2.png) [@Sunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunny)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/10 "2006-12-02T00:25:06Z")

</div>

TUTH is not just -none, but has small amounts of other [pheromones](https://a314.com/) to compensate a part of the negative effects of -none, am I right?

Has anybody compared the effects of wearing TUTH only to the effects of wearing -none only like Primal Instinct?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 12:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/11 "2006-12-02T00:33:14Z")

</div>

> [@Sunny](#):
>
> Turn Up The Heat is not just -none, but has , am I right?

TUTH has 3 or 9 pheromones in it. Mx102 has 9 pheromones in it. I’m not sure if TUTH has 3 or 9 because a user once said there were 3 and another time another the same user said 9, i think it was the admin Jasmin, so i’m confused. It might be because the v1.0 had 3, then the v1.1 has 9. I have 2 bottles of 1.0 and 1 bottle of 1.1, so i really like TUTH. I can confirm that the effects of 1.0 and 1.1 are different, but i don’t know the difference other that its more dominant. Perhaps the 1.0 feels more dominant because it is double the concentration compared to the 1.1.

At the peak of my TUTH experience, i had 4 bottles of TUTH, LOL!!!

You are probably right about the “small amounts of other pheromones to compensate a part of the negative effects of -none”, i think i have heard that before.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sunny/32/929_2.png) [@Sunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunny)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/12 "2006-12-02T00:36:00Z")

</div>

All right, let’s see if others will share their experience.

What I like about TUTH is that it does not stink. I have had two negative reactions about stink from higher dosages of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) now (not as bad as NPA stink, but it’s there). But no problems with TUTH!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/13 "2006-12-02T00:39:58Z")

</div>

> [@Sunny](#):
>
> All right, let’s see if others will share their experience.
> 
> What I like about Turn Up The Heat is that it does not stink. I have had two negative reactions about stink from higher dosages of Instant Female Magic now (not as bad as NPA stink, but it’s there). But no problems with TUTH!

I sometimes share pheromones with guys. People see me as “the sexual master now”, probably because i have a never ending sexual aura of TUTH on my skin. The other day, i shares my TUTH with a black guy, he told me it smelled like urin, and it was the 1.1 that has a shit load of neroli covering up the urin smell (i personally cant smell the urine smell) in it, so he didnt like the smell, but he did like the eye contact.

Did i ever tell you guys that this black chick insisted on sucking my cock once, the first time i had a blowjob, she was reaching into my pants, playing with my cock, and started sucking me. All because of TUTH i think. She kept saying “this feels sooooo wrong, but i want to suck you so bad”.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sunny/32/929_2.png) [@Sunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunny)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 12:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/14 "2006-12-02T00:44:00Z")

</div>

This all sounds like what I have been going through with just The Edge a couple of years ago. It was only one girl who reacted like she was remote controlled. It was so weired. And I could repeat it every time. Put on some Edge and she was going mad - in a very pleasant way.

Those extreme reactions seem to happen only with a small minority of girls.

“so he didnt like the smell, but he did like the eye contact” - he liked TUTH in his EYES???

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sunny/32/929_2.png) [@Sunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunny)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/15 "2006-12-02T01:07:16Z")

</div>

MHarris writes in an other thread:

> [@Help/Advice A314/IS](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/66):
>
> Turn Up The Heat v1.1 has moved in a “hotter” direction, by incorporating steering pheromones. I wouldn’t count on androstenone related negatives being extensively ameliorated. I didn’t want to destroy the -none effect.
> 
> TUTH is still dosed androstenone. With v1.1, it’s become dosed “supercharged androstenone”, that is all.
> 
> …]
> 
> TUTH is all about androstenone. Everything else is secondary.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/16 "2006-12-02T01:10:26Z")

</div>

> [@Sunny](#):
>
> “so he didnt like the smell, but he did like the eye contact” - he liked Turn Up The Heat in his EYES???

LOL. No. Eye contact from women. Women do eye contact when they are attracted…!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sunny/32/929_2.png) [@Sunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunny)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 1:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/17 "2006-12-02T01:12:48Z")

</div>

Aaaah, that kind of eye contact feels much better…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 1:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/18 "2006-12-02T13:02:05Z")

</div>

> [@thomaslavoie](#):
>
> Yes, i was using small doses. But the resultats were not perfect. I finaly figured out what works best for me on most of the people. I will explain my new ways of “pheromoning”. For example, too much mx102 kills my chances with 95% of chicks and “seals the deal” with 1%, this 1% comprised of the hottest females you can find, it scares the shit out of other “normal” chicks. I have also figured out that you should use from 1 to 1.7 sprays of Turn Up The Heat. Start out by applying 1 spray, then 0.7 sprays 3 hours later (press the spray nozzle a tiny bit more than halfway). So if you want to get “the pornstar”, use a bit of mx102, if you want to get any hot or normal chick, use TUTH.
> 
> Conclusion: i have a ton of fun with only a spray of TUTH minutes before meeting a girl, and i apply a bit more 3 hours later.😃
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> P.S. TUTH can make you social life very complicated. Dont make the same mistake when wearing TUTH and being VERY agressive towards a really hot chick that started a conversation while blaming you for something you didnt do. I got REALLY pissed and was ready to tare down a wall.

Hi Thomas.

Some awesome results you are getting there. Wish I had had these tools available when I was at college! 😉 - lucky you…

Have you tried wearing a combination of slightly-too-much androstenone with TAK (say 25mcg TAK , though I am still trying to figure out the right proportion)? It seems to let you get away with ODing without scaring everyone around you. TAK in general seems to be calming, dampening down stressy vibes. Small doses of TAH, beta-nol, IFM might also mellow the overall impression.

Also, have you tried MX104 (and maybe MX105) in place of MX102? I think that projects many of the A314 type qualities without making everyone feel inferior to you (and might suit clubs and bars better). I tend to use those mixes for night wear (but apply a drop of A314 and Primal Instinct right under my nose in order to make myself more inclined to approach).

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/19 "2006-12-02T15:36:36Z")

</div>

> [@PheroQuirk](#):
>
> Hi Thomas.
> 
> Some awesome results you are getting there. Wish I had had these tools available when I was at college! 😉 - lucky you…
> 
> Have you tried wearing a combination of slightly-too-much androstenone with TAK (say 25mcg TAK , though I am still trying to figure out the right proportion)? It seems to let you get away with ODing without scaring everyone around you. TAK in general seems to be calming, dampening down stressy vibes. Small doses of TAH, beta-Androstenol, Instant Female Magic might also mellow the overall impression.
> 
> Also, have you tried MX104 (and maybe MX105) in place of MX102? I think that projects many of the A314 type qualities without making everyone feel inferior to you (and might suit clubs and bars better). I tend to use those mixes for night wear (but apply a drop of A314 and Primal Instinct right under my nose in order to make myself more inclined to approach).

Nope, sadly, i haven’t tried those pheromones, wish i had the $. My first priority is nutrition, i take about 15 supplements (in all, 60 different plants, 20 enzymes, 31 isolated nutrients, 11 types of additional fats, added protein and lots more) everyday so my money goes to my perfect health, pheromones come after my clothing. The only thing i insticintivly did was put a huge dab of TUTH 5mcg right under my nose, just like you.

Also, yesterday, i learnt that TUTH made a girl think i was annoying. DAMN! For the first time in my life, i got into a social fight, next time i see her i will CRUSH her with my mx102, 3 freaking sprays minutes before seeing her!!! MUhahahahaha!!! Since my brain is sooo “pumped” by my perfect nutrition, i will smach her arguments, close her into a corner with my words, i can’t wait.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 4:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-got-the-biggest-ioi-ever/951/20 "2006-12-02T16:04:51Z")

</div>

> [@thomaslavoie](#):
>
> Also, yesterday, i learnt that TUTH made a girl think i was annoying. DAMN! For the first time in my life, i got into a social fight, next time i see her i will **CRUSH** her with my mx102, 3 freaking sprays minutes before seeing her!!! MUhahahahaha!!! Since my brain is sooo **“pumped”** by my perfect nutrition, i will **smach** her arguments, **close her into a corner** with my words, i can’t wait.

maybe you should _back away_ from the TUTH, Thomas! your brain is pumped by more than your nutrition.
