# I have a question for some of the more experienced ladies **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 3, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-have-a-question-for-some-of-the-more-experienced-ladies/4455 "2007-07-03T18:36:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Starfish](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/starfish/32/2347_2.png) [@Starfish](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Starfish)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-have-a-question-for-some-of-the-more-experienced-ladies/4455/1 "2007-07-03T18:36:06Z")
I’ve read through some posts and some of you mention getting a product x2, x4, and even x20. What exactly does this mean and how do you do it? Do you mention it when you purchase? Or do you have to specially order it by phone? Just curious Thanks ---
**Author:** ![tomboy05](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tomboy05/32/2320_2.png) [@tomboy05](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tomboy05)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2007, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-have-a-question-for-some-of-the-more-experienced-ladies/4455/2 "2007-07-04T02:51:23Z")
That just means how much it’s concentrated. X2 for twice the concentration of the original, X4 for four times the concentration of the original and so on. I think if you ask for it in the “specific order” or “customize” box or whatever it’s called when you place your online order, you can get it that way. Either that or call Jas for your order and ask for it. ---
**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2007, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-have-a-question-for-some-of-the-more-experienced-ladies/4455/3 "2007-07-04T07:26:12Z")
Some of the products - mostly the ones you see x2 or x4 for - like Instant Shine have a drop drown menu on the site that lets you select the strength. And you won’t need to add the customisation box if ordering online When you see (x5) and (x20) that _usually_ isn’t double strength of the whole mix but a multiplication of the strength of (usually) the just copulins in the mix. For example Instant Sexiness A x20. For these you do need to add the customisation box if ordering online. However, Jas has added a post to the site feedback forum saying that newbies can’t order special customisations due to extra pressure on the lab at the moment. I am sure this does not apply to things like double strength [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and quadruple strength Instant Honesty. But I am not sure if this applies to asking for 20x copulins or even different fragrances like choclatini - one of the others might be clearer on that? 😕 If you want something changed or different than standard - your best bet as Tomboy said is to call Jas.🙂 May ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2007, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-have-a-question-for-some-of-the-more-experienced-ladies/4455/4 "2007-07-05T15:27:54Z")
it is my experience that using regular strength is reccomended, but getting more of it. the down side is that its more expensive to have 2 bottles of reg strength than one bottle of double, but i have gone this route and figured it out. first of all, just because someone wears 2X or 4X doesnt make it more effective. in some cases, it makes it more ANNOYING. you’ll be the person they talk about when you leave :o there are [pheromones](https://a314.com/) here that when used in high amounts are absolutely fantastic and fun as hell. others will give people around you massive headaches and nausia that they will forever associate with the scent of neroli…and you. think hard before getting something you will have dilute later. also, not for nothing- having tried all this, i love the idea of finding a mix that happens to be great in large amounts, but instead of wearing a 4X or an 8X of something, i wear regular strength and use it like a body spray, all the way to the tips of my toes! this way your a cloud of sexxay fun, and not someone with a sharp-scented wrist! just my [http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/sign0134.gif](http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/sign0134.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Starfish](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/starfish/32/2347_2.png) [@Starfish](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Starfish)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-have-a-question-for-some-of-the-more-experienced-ladies/4455/5 "2007-07-05T18:05:12Z")
Oh, I wasn’t planning on ordering in those doses, I was going to go with the regular strength. I was just wondering what the x2, x4 meant and how you would order it. I’m trying to learn the lingo and the system so to speak. Thanks for answering my questions and for the advice. I truly appreciate it 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2007, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-have-a-question-for-some-of-the-more-experienced-ladies/4455/6 "2007-07-05T18:58:51Z")
What she said 😃 Start with the regular strength products. I have been using mones for almost a year now and I never get the higher dose. The only product that I just ordered that I did was shine and that is because I use 6 sprays at reg strength so I got the 2X and I will use 3 sprays. I will consider getting extra cops added but if I dont I can always fall back on EOW. > [@](#): > > this way your a cloud of sexxay fun, and not someone with a sharp-scented wrist! (Snort) I know you were not gone but I am glad to see you posting. You always make me smile. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-have-a-question-for-some-of-the-more-experienced-ladies/4455/7 "2007-07-05T19:03:05Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > What she said 😃 > > Start with the regular strength products. I have been using pheromones for almost a year now and I never get the higher dose. The only product that I just ordered that I did was shine and that is because I use 6 sprays at reg strength so I got the 2X and I will use 3 sprays. > > I will consider getting extra cops added but if I dont I can always fall back on EOW. > > (Snort) I know you were not gone but I am glad to see you posting. You always make me smile. > > Tisha instant shine must be the exception to the rule. EVERYONE gets that one higher once they acclimate to the regular strength,lol. hell, i have it in 2X chocolatini :o and how can i dissapear completely when you keep dragggggging my butt back here??? you make me smile too 😃 ---
**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 12:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-have-a-question-for-some-of-the-more-experienced-ladies/4455/8 "2007-07-06T00:46:45Z")
[Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) is good in higher strengths, too, though. ETA: But maybe not to start out with?