# I just saw an ad for a "de-ionized water" miracle cleaning agent... ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [March 4, 2006, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186 "2006-03-04T15:11:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2006, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/1 "2006-03-04T15:11:09Z")
Is this thing for real? This woman is selling her Ion-A-Clean spray, which is just de-ionized water. She claims its all-natural, safe, and will pretty much remove any stain. My spidey sense is tingling? > [@](#): > > _“Ion-A-Clean is colorless, odorless, ionized, deoxidized water that has been electrolyzed using a patented method. This patented process permanently alters the atoms in water resulting in negatively charged ions.”_ > > _Nothing could be kinder to our Earth_ > > - _0% Volatile Organic Compounds (VOC)_ > > - _No aquatic toxicity_ > > - _Biodegradable_ > > - _Green Seal approved, Environmental Choice Program_ > > - _Two to three year shelf life_ > _The cleaning power behind Ion-A-Clean_ > > - _Patented ‘peeling’ action_ > > - _Cleans with uniquely safe pH_ > > - _Non-corrosive and anti Oxidant even prevents rust on most surfaces_ > _The safety issues_ > > - _Will not irritate the skin_ > > - _Non toxic when ingested_ > > - _Child and Pet safe_ > > - _Recommended for chemical sensitivities_ > _Clean stains on virtually any surface_ > > - _Carpet, upholstery_ > > - _Fabric window shades_ > > - _Clothing_ > > - _Hard surfaces_ > > - _All metals_ > _Removes_ > > - _Grease_ > > - _Grime_ > > - _Dirt_ > > - _Stains_ > > - _Odors_ > > - _Bugs on Windshields_ > > - _Brake dust on vehicles wheels_ \*] Get this, this chick has co-written the For Dummies book on cleaning, has written a couple cleaning books of her own, and has all her products on a few home makeover shows. She’s well credentialized, but this all just seems so… _bogus_? ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2006, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/2 "2006-03-04T18:40:00Z")
sounds fishier than a can of tuna to me.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2006, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/3 "2006-03-04T18:59:58Z")
with extra mercury added in for flavor 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mikey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@mikey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikey)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/4 "2006-03-10T03:28:41Z")
I see this type of thing all the time. Anyone game to try it? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![thr3shold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thr3shold/32/2316_2.png) [@thr3shold](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thr3shold)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 8:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/5 "2006-03-10T08:03:54Z")
\*“Ion-A-Clean is colorless, odorless, ionized, deoxidized water that has been electrolyzed using a patented method. This patented process permanently alters the atoms in water resulting in negatively charged ions.” \*Altering the atoms to create ionized water molecules is patently absurd. Ionized and deionized water nomenclature comes from the dissolved ions in water, not ionic water molecules. If you have excessive metallic ions in your water you get ‘hard’ water, ‘soft’ water comes about when most of the ions are sodium. This is definitely worthless tripe. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/6 "2006-03-17T18:10:32Z")
"_deoxidized water"_ _That would be Hydrogen gas._ _Remember H (hydrogen) 2 O (oxygen) is the formula for water.😃_ ---
**Author:** ![Takeachance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@Takeachance](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Takeachance)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/7 "2010-09-25T23:48:12Z")
My wife saw a demonstration and said it worked better than 409! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/8 "2010-09-26T01:22:58Z")
Snake oil - Avoid! ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/9 "2010-09-26T19:19:31Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > "_deoxidized water"_ > > _That would be Hydrogen gas._ > > _Remember H (hydrogen) 2 O (oxygen) is the formula for water.😃_ Not completely, Most water is oxygenated or more accurately “aerated” with additional oxygen molecules saturated into the liquid not unlike CO2 in a carbonated beverage. If you exhale CO2 over a glass of water you aren’t making carbonated water, it requires pressurized gas to saturate it. However at the molecular level it’s still water. DE oxygenated water is water that has been stripped of usable free oxygen. Fish still require oxygen but their bodies are not designed to break down a water molecule and expel the remaining unused hydrogen. Hence the reason fish tanks have aerator pumps blowing bubbles through them all the time. Without constant exposure to oxygen the water loses it’s content of free BREATHABLE oxygen and the fish die. Deoxygenated water is called stagnant and you can taste the difference between a glass of water that’s been allowed to sit for a day and a glass that’s been poured into another glass and allowed to splash and bubble a bit in the process. Aside from that, deionized water sounds like a scam, about as valid scientifically as homeopathic remedies. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/10 "2010-09-27T22:35:33Z")
I guess many people can say the exact same thing about pheromones ---
**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/11 "2010-09-30T00:00:57Z")
Oxidizing is also the substance gaining the electrons in a redox reaction (thereby making it the negatively charge “ionized” water), or if it is “deoxidized” it would be positively charged. Unfortunately, science is a bitch and not everything sounds like what it means. ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/12 "2010-10-01T20:27:48Z")
It’s funny because the product will actually work to some degree (the degree being approximately the same degree that water from your tap will work… which is relatively well) So people buy and due to confirmation bias begin to believe the product claims ---
**Author:** ![Goodwater\_Joe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90db22/32.png) [@Goodwater\_Joe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Goodwater_Joe)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/13 "2010-10-11T20:28:28Z")
Actually water is a surprisingly effective solvent in itself and its power increases with its purity. This seems to be a lot of salemanship to get you to buy water at, probably, an inflated price but don’t underestimate the power of water, especially pure water. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 10:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/14 "2010-10-11T22:01:48Z")
I drink a gallon of distilled water daily! It’s that good ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/15 "2010-10-18T22:11:29Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > I drink a gallon of distilled water daily! It’s that good I was told too much distilled water will leach minerals from your body.😮 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/16 "2010-10-18T22:13:01Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > I was told too much distilled water will leach minerals from your body.😮 That’s old news Jim and outdated. Most nutrients come from food now 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/17 "2010-10-18T23:26:10Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > That’s old news Jim and outdated. **Most nutrients come from food now** 🙂 Huh?? Distilled water _removes_ minerals from bones and teeth.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 2:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-just-saw-an-ad-for-a-de-ionized-water-miracle-cleaning-agent/186/18 "2010-11-02T14:17:29Z")
Yeah I’m puzzled by that statement myself. Care to explain that to us a little further Steve? How drinkable is distilled water anyway?