# I might get a refund. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 21, 2007, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153 "2007-10-21T23:31:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Thorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Thorick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thorick)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2007, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/1 "2007-10-21T23:31:11Z")
I’ve had phero’s for a while I guess. I don’t really always have a lot of time to use them. I really don’t get out much, and I don’t have a massive selection of girls to try them on as I am quite religious and stick to girls of my own religion. So in my area there are not a lot. The chances I do get to use them are in church when I see these girls, and there are often complaints from people that they get headaches from the smell, so I really don’t get to use them in church either. Sometimes there are activities, but not many. So I have used the phero’s a little bit, and I haven’t noticed any major results. Anything I have noticed deosn’t seem massive and probably happened before, it’s just I was looking this time for results. Because I haven’t used them I was about to turn them in for a refund, but I guess I’ll try them again, I heard it can take up to a week before the phero’s mix in with my chemistry, and I may have had them for a while, but I havn’t been able to use them much. I have Ammo instant shine Turn up the Heat instant female magic instant gentleman A314 [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) instant Honesty I’m not exactly sure what I should do with all these, or when I’ll be able to use them. They are all in the full size. I was wondering, how long do phero’s last before they go bad. Because of my religious belief’s we don’t do sex before marriage. Not even making out. Holding hands, and a kiss every once in a while is alright. I’m also going to be going on a two year mission for my church next summer, so I probably shouldn’t get involved with girls much, cause I don’t want to have a girlfriend when I leave. I would like to get to know girls more, maybe so I can have some I’ll write while on my mission, but other then that I’m not into getting serious with any, and we don’t do anything with sex until we are married, so the phero’s are useless for trying to go that far for me. So as you guys can see my situation, is it worth it for me to hang on to these phero’s or should I just turn them in to get my money back. I haven’t used them a ton, but I have used them when I can. I haven’t noticed much of a change, actually probably the girls are more stand offish when I’m wearing them. I seem to do a better job without them. What do you guys think, I don’t want them sitting around being useless. Will androtics direct still sale to me if say two years from now I want to try them when I’m not afraid to get seriously committed. Sorry, it’s a long post. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2007, 11:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/2 "2007-10-21T23:58:01Z")
See my PM. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/3 "2007-10-22T00:40:07Z")
Well if I were you I would use them some more. See how you do and if you still find they dont work out for you get the 200% money back guarantee. Do not sell them before using this option because you wont get the full price by selling used bottles of pheromones. You have to give them a fair shot though for this option. Its not that I am saying you wont be able to sell them outright but I suggest alot of products to people in here and if it dosnt work out I want to see them get there full money back. Just so you know, sure we talk about sex alot in here but pheromones can be used for so much more then that. Instant shine is great for church. Its a mood lifting mix and there is nothing wrong with being in a great mood while worshiping. Instant Openness and Instant Honesty are social mixes. People are social at church and at church functions. Being able to socialize with others is helpful all the time. [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) Hey sometimes even god fearing women get bitchy. Wouldnt hurt to make them feel at ease. A314 is a great mix for work, school, church, wearever you can easily wear that to church and the scent is not as strong as the neroli. Instant Gentleman What gentlemen dont go to church. This one just makes people feel calm secure and confident around you. Turn Up The Heat and AMMO have a sexual effect. But it dosnt mean you have to have sex. These are the only 2 you should have problems with. I would tweak your dosage. Use one at a time. Dont over spray and see how you do. Keep them in a cool dry dark place and they will last a long time Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Thorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Thorick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thorick)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/4 "2007-10-22T01:31:40Z")
Thanks tisha23 for your advice. I’ll try using it in the different situations you have mentioned. Sorry madisontate I didn’t receive your PM yet. Does it take a while to receive. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 2:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/5 "2007-10-22T02:06:12Z")
I’m married and have no intention of picking up girls. However, I have and have use for all the products in your current arsenal. They have effects on people. We relate to people every day. Start learning how each one works on you. So you’re going on a mission. What’s the point? Does it have anything to do with people? Could [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) help with your goal? ---
**Author:** ![Thorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Thorick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thorick)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/6 "2007-10-22T02:11:24Z")
Lol, I guess you do have a point there. I’m thinking of going into public speaking , I guess they could be a good [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) to use for that. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![kinggs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c0e974/32.png) [@kinggs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kinggs)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/7 "2007-10-22T02:18:39Z")
i can take instant honesty and instant female magic off your hands 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Thorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Thorick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thorick)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/8 "2007-10-22T02:23:37Z")
I think I’ve been convinced to keep them man, sorry. check out this thread `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/4-sale-my-phero-arsenal-6658.html` this guy was selling some phero’s, unless he has been convinced to keep his as well. Thanks for offering though. ---
**Author:** ![chadwick](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chadwick/32/2129_2.png) [@chadwick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chadwick)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/9 "2007-10-22T03:30:03Z")
If you haven’t already try just one ore two squirts at a time from one product. They shouldn’t be getting headaches unless your over doing it. Are you mixing to much… Are you personally feeling any affects? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 7:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/10 "2007-10-22T07:23:57Z")
It’s not just about attracting the opposite sex or getting laid. Using pheromones successfully is about better interactions and control of those interactions. I mainly use pheromones for social and professional enhancement. That is, to amp up my persona a bit. Combined with the right behavior and appearance the pheromones give me a consistent edge in dealing with colleagues and students. Basically they pay more attention, take me more seriously and act more respectful. Helps maintain the chain of command. A314, Scent of Eros, CTTM, and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) have been most helpful in these areas. > [@](#): > > Because of my religious belief’s we don’t do sex before marriage. Not even making out. Holding hands, and a kiss every once in a while is alright. Don’t pray alone with single women. Brings you too close. And Lay off the Turn Up The Heat and Ammo on dates and pronto. No matter how strong your religious beliefs sex happens if you’re not careful. Tempting and exciting her with sexual pheromones–products with androstenone–is asking for trouble. Kinda like pasting a benjamin on your back and expecting not to get robbed… ---
**Author:** ![smoothplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@smoothplayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smoothplayer)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 8:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/11 "2007-10-22T08:42:48Z")
Don’t get a refund; instead, sell your pheromones to me. I’ll buy everything from you for $50 😉 Don’t worry, I’ll take care of everything. ---
**Author:** ![Pepito](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pepito/32/2060_2.png) [@Pepito](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pepito)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 10:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/12 "2007-10-22T10:20:38Z")
Thorick try this: 1. a shower with Marseille Soap (works wonder in removing pheromones) 2. 2 drop of A314, one to each side of your neck 3. one, and only one, puff of Turn Up The Heat at the base of your throat, between those two bones. Do no more and no less than this and let us know how it went ---
**Author:** ![smoothplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@smoothplayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smoothplayer)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/13 "2007-10-22T16:43:10Z")
> [@Pepito](#): > > 1. a shower with Marseille Soap (works wonder in removing pheromones) When you say take “a shower with” do you mean you rub the soap bar over your application spots…could you be a little more descriptive as to how this works wonders? How do you use it in the shower? Thanks, I might buy some. ---
**Author:** ![Pepito](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pepito/32/2060_2.png) [@Pepito](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pepito)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/14 "2007-10-22T17:57:30Z")
I started using it since a chemicals professor at school told us about this soap anti bacterical properties. You can use it also as a mild disinfectant. Wash and rub like always, i personally leave it over application points for a bit longer than i would do with regular soap, it leaves the skin a bit dry because it’s PH is different from that of the skin still i use it everywhere with no problems at all. It should be also very cheap …a lot of moms use it here in italy… and so many moms can’t be wrong ! ---
**Author:** ![Pepito](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pepito/32/2060_2.png) [@Pepito](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pepito)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/15 "2007-10-22T18:04:51Z")
My message just disappeared…“works wonders” means that, for example, if you apply a strong perfume and wash with this soap you will not smell it anymore afterward, which not always happen with regular soap (in my experience). ---
**Author:** ![Thorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Thorick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thorick)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/16 "2007-10-22T18:23:09Z")
> [@chadwick](#): > > If you haven’t already try just one ore two squirts at a time from one product. They shouldn’t be getting headaches unless your over doing it. Are you mixing to much… Are you personally feeling any affects? I tried some by themselves. Because I don’t get a chance to use them a whole lot, i end up not wanting to miss a chance and I do some crazy mixes. though now i think I’ll start trying them one at a time. i have tried ammo a couple times by itself. 1-3 sprays. I seemed to get more of a negative effect. maybe my natural none is to high, and i should try like have a spray. Not sure exactly. But I’ll try them by themselves more now. I do find [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) makes me a little depressed, which doesn’t help my game much. I might try sticking it somewhere where it doesn’t get into my face much. > [@Gegogi](#): > > It’s not just about attracting the opposite sex or getting laid. Using pheromones successfully is about better interactions and control of those interactions. I mainly use pheromones for social and professional enhancement. That is, to amp up my persona a bit. Combined with the right behavior and appearance the pheromones give me a consistent edge in dealing with colleagues and students. Basically they pay more attention, take me more seriously and act more respectful. Helps maintain the chain of command. A314, Scent of Eros, CTTM, and Instant Honesty have been most helpful in these areas. > > Don’t pray alone with single women. Brings you too close. And Lay off the Turn Up The Heat and Ammo on dates and pronto. No matter how strong your religious beliefs sex happens if you’re not careful. Tempting and exciting her with sexual pheromones–products with androstenone–is asking for trouble. Kinda like pasting a benjamin on your back and expecting not to get robbed… Thanks man. I’ll watch the none usage. Thanks about the pray warning. Maybe if I should try overdosing on a product to know for sure it’s working ,then lower the dosage until it starts getting positive effect. I know some have used this method, though i should keep that out of church cause people will definitely not like me wearing it. Thanks for the help guys. ---
**Author:** ![Thorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Thorick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thorick)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2007, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-might-get-a-refund/6153/17 "2007-10-22T18:25:28Z")
> [@Pepito](#): > > Thorick try this: > > 1. a shower with Marseille Soap (works wonder in removing pheromones) > 2. 2 drop of A314, one to each side of your neck > 3. one, and only one, puff of Turn Up The Heat at the base of your throat, between those two bones. > > Do no more and no less than this and let us know how it went I’ll give it a try. now I just need to find a unsuspecting victim lol. I had some of my phero’s in little bottles like the togo ones and i made a little phero wallet, but one day all the caps came off and I lost alot of my phero’s tehre. lol. I have the big bottles so I still have alot. But it’s kinda shame really. lol