# I need an advice for my new arsenals! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 11, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-an-advice-for-my-new-arsenals/57004 "2012-10-11T22:52:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![woostar88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@woostar88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/woostar88)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-an-advice-for-my-new-arsenals/57004/1 "2012-10-11T22:52:29Z")
Hi, I been absent in this forum for awhile now… I’ve been going through lot of personal problems (bad habit of pills). Long story short, Phero has got me super interested before and I want to get back on track with my new goals and hobbies. I am 24 yrs old and 100% Korean. (155lbs) I’ve been also absent in going to gym and eating too, so i’ve lost about 30 lbs in short months. But now that I’ve recovered, I want to channel my negative energy towards something fun and productive. (also, NOT illegal) One thing I will never stop is smoking green… it helps me to sleep and my appetite too. So I need to be medicated until my weight returns in healthy way. Anyhow, I’ve lost lot of my trick of trades and I want them back!!! I just started hitting the gym… (i could also use some advice on quick workouts, it’s a struggle for me after hibernating for about a years and a half.) I currently have a girlfriend who has been nothing but supportive to me… so I want to do a little social experiments. Currently, I have A314 (alpha oil) and AMMO. I’ve tried IS and IO. If these were too expensive, I would love to acquire few more sets, but kinda tight up budget… so I need to stay maximum of 2-3 new batch. I’ve realize using AMMO has gotten me MANY deer in headlights and A314 has gotten me many respects. (these are more noticeable when under the influence of ganza) anyways, I was thinking about Spaceland for fun perhaps? and two more interesting products I am not aware of. maybe you fellas can help me to decide on which two. Anyways, I will be logging and try to report on my personal experiences/journey. Good to be back again! ---
**Author:** ![Spinach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spinach/32/348_2.png) [@Spinach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spinach)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-an-advice-for-my-new-arsenals/57004/2 "2012-10-12T01:56:27Z")
Hi Woostar, because you’ve been gone I don’t think you know, but Spaceland is no longer available to purchase. I’m pretty sure it was a Limited Edition product, just for fun like you said. 🙂 There is a new (again, limited) Summer Edition of Ammo, however! So you might be interested in that, although it does cost a little more than the regular stuff. If you liked A314 you might also like [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). Going from your post I am going to assume that you haven’t tried Instant Honesty either. Also, because you’ve already been using pheros for a while, you could try out some of the Putatives, and report back on them? 🙂 P83 is quite popular nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![woostar88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@woostar88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/woostar88)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-an-advice-for-my-new-arsenals/57004/3 "2012-10-17T20:54:21Z")
Thank you for your inputs! I just been busy trying to get my life back together. (Going to gym everyday and eating more healthy). Anyways, I’ve noticed spraying 2x ammo made me feel very anxious… And that very night, with added green herb made me have a panic attack. (I had one before). But I can tell you that it’s definitely working. My gf was all over me and we had fun 4 times in a row… Wow she was licking me like I was a lollipop and kept on smelling me. As of self note, ammo seems like a perfect solution for night out… I think one I have is bad? Not sure… It smells like a laundry detergent. Lmao Now, can you tell me which is the most popular scent? I want to use it just alone. (Not masking the smell). So no more spaceland huh? What does p83 do? Or in which product do they include? Meaning… Are they separated molecules vs experimental mones. Also, what does od’ing feels like? Because upon spraying ammo x1, my anxious level spikes up. While a314 makes me feel like I’m in speed with calming and just done working out for 2 hours. (Feels damn good… Like unlimited power surge). I want instant shine because how it makes me feel warm and fuzzy… And possibly instant openness or instant honestly. Please get back to me about what od’ing feels like. And also what’s the best way to remove any molecules left on my skin? Even after hard scrubbing, the smell seems to be still there… ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2012, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-an-advice-for-my-new-arsenals/57004/4 "2012-10-18T00:37:01Z")
A lot of people don’t feel anything in the OD situaton - This more applies to how pheros can repel folk around you. Its not OD in the classic sense, more the **Opposite** of **Desired** effect. However pheros can have negative self effects on some and they do vary quite widely betwwen both pheros and individuals. What you describe could be caused by Androstenone and personally, I feel a bit tired, drawn/flat and headachy if I use high-dose Nols or IS for too long. P83 is aa very useful secondary phero that helps promote physical interaction and disinhibits. You can make good use of it in social or sexual mixes. It has been revealed as one of the components of A314 and P83 features in a majority of released MX formulas, so I’d guess its in quite a few more products as a steering component. Do remember that individual phero mixes alter the scents somewhat, so any scent bought as a standalone will not smell quite the same. Nope, Ammo does smell like that, its FF21 - Some love it, others hate it. Personaly I get skin/eye irritation and headaches off it, so since the demise of FF22, I now get Ammo in Akuto (A314 scent) with a custom order. However the [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) scent is a very different matter and very well liked indeed. A good long scrub with soap and wayer is still the best way. Witch Hazel, Tea Tree and Coal Tar boywash/soaps are the most effective at breaking down pheros.