# I Need Help Again **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 30, 2008, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-help-again/13254 "2008-05-30T00:40:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FunkJunk2007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f6c823/32.png) [@FunkJunk2007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FunkJunk2007)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-help-again/13254/1 "2008-05-30T00:40:41Z")
After having success with turn up the heat, instant shine, instant female magic, p83 I need help with another senusal mix. I’m meeting another woman this Saturday a older woman that is latina age 51 and we’ve seen each other few times and kick it up a notch. The [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) I have are instant openness, instant honesty, mx210, ammo, mx103. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-help-again/13254/2 "2008-05-30T01:07:49Z")
You should put more turn up the heat for ladies who are alittle bit older. 2 or 3 sprays of io will be great too, how well do you know her btw? Of course ammo will be a must too, but adjust between ammo and turn up the heat so there is not too much androstenone. ---
**Author:** ![FunkJunk2007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f6c823/32.png) [@FunkJunk2007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FunkJunk2007)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-help-again/13254/3 "2008-05-30T01:13:38Z")
> [@mockingbird](#): > > You should put more turn up the heat for ladies who are alittle bit older. 2 or 3 sprays of Instant Openness will be great too, how well do you know her btw? > > Of course ammo will be a must too, but adjust between ammo and turn up the heat so there is not too much androstenone. i’ve been knowing her for a year now and its been going good. i plan on covering up the mones, i asked her what kind of cologne she likes and she told me she likes cool water and doesn’t like the smell of musk. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-help-again/13254/4 "2008-05-30T01:24:46Z")
I will try: First we need to review the bidding. IO - Primarily alpha 'nols - chatty IH - primarily beta 'nols - deeper conversation MX210 - 10.375mcg alpha 'nols & 10.375mcg “Molecule A” - main component of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) - in the “Akuto” scent MX103 - A314 variant Ammo - None balanced with other pheromones - some of same pheromones in MX103 - different ratios I would go with the Ammo, IH and maybe the MX103 but certainly the first two. Reasoning: You have already seen each other a couple times and obviously do not seem to have any trouble finding something to talk about so alpha 'nols are not necessary. The beta 'nols however will help take that initial conversation into deeper territory plus can help create a sense of connection. Older women and women of color (to include a lot of latinas) seem to react quite well to 'none. Hence the Ammo. Not sure about your age but if you are older than 30 you can probably safely use 3 shots of Ammo. Give yourself enough of a none signature to let her know you are the “hombre”, “el macho”. A spray of MX103 to let her know she is THE hombre, “el jefe”. If she is like a lot of latinas I know she will take to that well. I say maybe MX103 as I am still not sure that a combination of A314 and Ammo really send out the two distinct signals or just send out a lot of signal, if you get my meaning. They have some of the same components (individual pheromones) just in different ratios. So I am often tempted to think that you send out a lot of signal, just one that is neither completely one or the other. I am sure others may disagree but this is something I would really like to investigate at some point. The TAA in the MX210 might be good to add in with the alpha nols as a bonus but I personally think the Ammo and Akuto cologne scents clash. My two cents worth …