# i need some help or tips **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 17, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-some-help-or-tips/56173 "2012-07-17T18:15:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wmzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/71e660/32.png) [@wmzero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wmzero)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-some-help-or-tips/56173/1 "2012-07-17T18:15:47Z")
ok so first let me start by saying i have tried turn up the heat and i must say it smelt like pee and then i ordered ammunition but i received turn up the heat and i just pored it in a lotion bottle and i got complements on how i smelt but nothing more and rares complements at that lol so yesterday i ordered ammunition heavy strength and instant gentlemen so i want to know do they smell good and do they work? and how should i wear them like 2 spray of ammuntion on the neck and 1 spray of instant gentlemen on the chest ect… so to any experts… what if i mix them together say poor them in 1 container? will that kill of pheros or something? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-some-help-or-tips/56173/2 "2012-07-18T00:36:15Z")
> [@](#): > > ok so first let me start by saying i have tried turn up the heat and i must say it smelt like pee and then i ordered ammunition but i received turn up the heat and i just pored it in a lotion bottle and i got complements on how i smelt but nothing more and rares complements at that lol Anone smells like pee to some people but as long as you apply to a clean body and use a cover scent your the only one who will perceive it that way. Tuth comes with a cover scent but if your one of those people who are sensitive to it you will smell it. First when you got the wrong bottle you should have contacted the store and they would have made it right. Second pouring it in the lotion ruined it so I am not surprised you didnt see results. Never mix your mones with another product. It dilutes them and throws off the ratio of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). If you wanted to cover then you apply the mones, wait for dry down, then cover with cologne or what ever scent you like. Lotion slows the diffusion rate because its molecularly heavy. With out diffusion you get little to no results. > [@](#): > > so yesterday i ordered ammunition heavy strength and instant gentlemen Why did you order heavy strength. Are you over 40 ? With anone products especially always start with the standard strength. > [@](#): > > so i want to know do they smell good and do they work? and how should i wear them like 2 spray of ammuntion on the neck and 1 spray of instant gentlemen on the chest ect… Uncovered pheromones dont smell good. They are the molecular equivalent of body odor. Ammo and IG have cover in them but if you are anone sensitive you may still smell it in Ammo because its 1/3 anone. It does come with a cologne strength cover instead of neroli like the others so if you are sensitive to anone then you should not smell it as strongly as you did in TUTH. Everyone perceives scent differently so its hard to say whether you will like the smell. I love the smell of TUTH. Its rare I ever smell that underlying piss smell. So we can tell you they smell good to us but that doesn’t mean they will smell good to you. With IG which comes with a neroli scent you can easily cover it with you own cologne the way I described above with TUTH. Since AMMO comes in cologne you should have to and its harder to layer a cologne on top without being over scented or having the scents clash. How do you wear them. Start with a clean slate especially since you seem sensitive to the smell. So apply shortly after a shower. Bacterial conversion can cause the smell of piss for some people. Sometimes using anti bacterial soap helps cut down on the natural bacteria on the body so it doesn’t become as stinky. Start with one product at a time and follow the directions set out here. [Sweet Spot (dosage)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003/9) In fact you should read this whole thread to get a better understanding of mones > [@An Introduction to Mones: Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Duration](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003): > > Welcome to an exciting world of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). By joining our community you have taken a HUGE step in progressing a science that is cutting edge and still in its infancy. This community is globally important in recognizing pheromones, and Neuroinfluence Technology ? and their impact on human communication. There are thousands of posts here and thousands more users. Each one of us, including you, adds a unique dynamic to the community from our individual perspectives, experiences and our research an… Do they work \>\>\>\> Yes they work if you learn to use them correctly. Some people have misconceptions as to what mones can do though. Read this to understand what mones do and what they dont do. > [@What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558): > > A lot of people come in to the forum and read all the wonderful stories about peoples experiences with [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). New people end up trying them out with high expectations and usually as they get to know the product those expectations are met to some extent and sometimes not because there expectations were to high But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get a lot of PM’s from people asking me why "they couldn’t get there cheati… > [@](#): > > so to any experts… what if i mix them together say poor them in 1 container? will that kill of pheros or something? Again NEVER mix your mones together or with another product. Mixing is just for single molecule mones. Your pheromones are mixed to the proper ratios already. If you combine them you throw off the ratio of steering molecules to base mones and usually end up with a mess. Mixing is for experts. If you have any more questions or need help just ask. Oh and dont forget to do an intro in the introduction section of the forum so you can get a $25 GC to the store. The instructions are in the stinky section at the top of the intro forum. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-some-help-or-tips/56173/3 "2012-07-18T01:26:03Z")
Excellent advice above but rather than you really do need to do the basics, one product at a time to find what phero or phero combinations work best for you and your range of social situations. Otherwise it sounds like you are no further on from your thread from last year: > [@Its been Forever (status report)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-forever-status-report/52261): > > I bought 2 bottles of turn up the heat in June 14, 2010 and i just finished them up last week… 1 spray maybe 2 sprays when i go out… Product didn’t do anything for me Thus being the reason it took so long to use… I just bought AMMUNITION yesterday and its coming my way… anything i need to know or what.. i want info and info and info.. basically I’m looking for a pantie dropper [pheromone](https://a314.com/)… =P yeah i said it (to brag) I have 1497 Reward Points in my account.. woohoo?!?!?! And at 25, Heavy [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is maybe too much - It will be much easier to find your effective dose with the standard product. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-some-help-or-tips/56173/4 "2012-07-18T01:43:37Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Excellent advice above but rather than you really do need to do the basics, one product at a time to find what phero or phero combinations work best for you and your range of social situations. > > Otherwise it sounds like you are no further on from your thread from last year: > > [Its been Forever (status report)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-forever-status-report/52261) > > And at 25, Heavy Ammo is maybe too much - It will be much easier to find your effective dose with the standard product. Thank you Mobo for digging that info up. I think we can both see the problem clearly now. Pheromones are not like cologne or perfume that you can just spray on any old way and go. They are not one size fits all and there is a learning curve. Mobo gave you excellent advice before but I dont think you ever did read the info he gave you back then. If you want different results this time its going to require some effort on your part. Read the info we gave you. Oh and Ammo double strength is probably going to be to much anone for you especially since you mentioned your sensitivity to the smell. Double strength is easier to use for those older then 25. Your young and make plenty of your own anone so its likely you don’t need that much. More is not better with pheromones. Finding your sweet spot (dosage) can make the difference between success and failure. Now this doesn’t mean you cant work with the AMMO you purchased. Start with half spray if you can. Most likely 1 spray (which would be the equivalent of two normal strength) will be your dosage. You just wont be able to apply as effectively. Keep us posted and we will help you through it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![wmzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/71e660/32.png) [@wmzero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wmzero)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-some-help-or-tips/56173/5 "2012-07-18T16:26:21Z")
notes taken i received my items today i must say they smell really really really good i was thinking about buying a dropper and using drops would opening the bottle ruin the phero’s as well? i put 1 drop_not a spray_ each on separate wrist and i just keep sniffing them lol 🆒 its been an hour or two i knew heavy would be to much for my age and all but im thinking just little damps /(daps)/drop of heavy ammunition and instant gentleman