# I Need some help seeing results with social pheros (IG, IO, IS) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 19, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-some-help-seeing-results-with-social-pheros-ig-io-is/32624 "2009-09-19T21:39:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![thisistheendgame](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thisistheendgame/32/1651_2.png) [@thisistheendgame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thisistheendgame)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-some-help-seeing-results-with-social-pheros-ig-io-is/32624/1 "2009-09-19T21:39:54Z")
Hey guys, i’m looking for some help on using [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), Instant Openness (2x), and Instant Shine (2x). I’m still kinda new to all this, so I ordered these three about a week and a half ago. I started testing out IG first, starting with 2 sprays (one front of neck, one on wrist then mixed together with other wrist)…then further upping the sprays as the days went on. My main spray-points were at the wrists, and on each side of the neck. I then tried throwing IO into the mix, again starting with fewer sprays and working them up as the week went on. Yesterday was perhaps my biggest dosage, as I had 4 sprays of IO(2x) (one in front of neck, left wrist, right wrist, and one in hair), 3 of IG (each side of neck, and the crooks of my arms), and 2 of IS (2x) in my hair…and I still haven’t seen any results. Now, I understand that results are subtle, and it’s still 90% me and 10% pheros, but I really didn’t see anything noticeable happen. I did try to match what the pheros are supposed to do…I smiled and tried appearing and friendly and open as I could through my body-language. I certainly didn’t feel any self-effects at all, which I was kinda disappointed by. I’m a shy person, and I was hoping the IO would help me open up more (I even put a dab of it under my nose, hoping that would help). There was one day I did 2 sprays of Instant Shine (2x) to my hair, but no one around me seemed particularly more up-beat than usual, nor did I. As far as my testing goes, i’ve mainly worn it at work (around guys I feel pretty comfortable with as it is) so maybe they weren’t the best people to be testing around, as we all are already open to talking with each other. I also wore the combos while running errands…there was this one instance where I was at the bank, with a gorgeous teller making my deposit for me. I had applied IO at the wrists and IG at the arms probably a half an hour beforehand, too…and I kinda placed my arms on the counter right under the glass where they slide you your slip. Besides the common “How are you, what can I help you with, have a good day” type pleasantries, she didn’t really seem anymore talkative than she needed to be. Same thing with at Best Buy; I was wearing IO and IG around the cashier ringing me up, and again, no talk outside of her doing her job. I’m certainly not trying to make a “ARGH these don’t work!!!” type post…i’ve read the many great hits that members here get, and i’m hopeful for those kind of results too. I know i’m not supposed to expect anything too ridiculous; I do understand that pheros are only roughly 10% of the equation when dealing with people, and maybe things might have gone a bit better if I had actually manned-up and initiated some conversation…but again, i’m really shy around new people, and I was just hoping that people would be more willing to kick-start some small-talk or something. I was just hoping for something a bit more noticeable and “out of the usual” you know? Is it possible that these particular pheromones don’t mesh well with my body chemistry? Has something like that ever been reported or documented? Does anyone have any tips (application points, dosages, anything?) on how I can use these products a little more effectively? Thanks a lot, I really appreciate any help.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cronixia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Cronixia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cronixia)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-some-help-seeing-results-with-social-pheros-ig-io-is/32624/2 "2009-09-19T22:10:32Z")
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**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-some-help-seeing-results-with-social-pheros-ig-io-is/32624/3 "2009-09-19T22:11:56Z")
mones definitely dont work the same for everyone. i made a journal with some of my experiences (or lack thereof): [Scotties123 Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/scotties123-journal/32407) ive tried many things, many times, from different places, but overall i cant say ive seen anything too substantial to contribute to mones. but, everyone is different. might take someone 1 spray of TUTH to see a change, where it might take me 10. ---
**Author:** ![lukus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e4f/32.png) [@lukus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lukus)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-some-help-seeing-results-with-social-pheros-ig-io-is/32624/4 "2009-09-19T23:14:14Z")
Not everyone gets self effects, I dont for certain. IO is more of an icebreaker, ease tention /make people who would normally feel uncomfortable by you (either from just being a stranger to looking intimidating) feel more relaxed. It should also aid in making conversation, but only by a little bit so you need to promote an interesting conversation still. If you wanted to approach a random person you’ve never met before, this would be a pheromone of choice IMO. IS should make a happy, fun, youthfull vibe. I think it works with anything in my opinion (other [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) or ‘situations’), a ‘impress the girls’ pheromone in that your the happy, cool, fun, energetic, healthy guy. I wouldnt use it at work unless it a rather happy enviroment, maybe when you and your friends go out together somewhere, you know, bowling or somthing where everyone is going to be having fun, IS should make you stand out. I think having apositive character will aid with using IS. Being unhappy /grumpy will not do :3 IG i cant comment on 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Cronixia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Cronixia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cronixia)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-some-help-seeing-results-with-social-pheros-ig-io-is/32624/5 "2009-09-19T23:18:40Z")
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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-some-help-seeing-results-with-social-pheros-ig-io-is/32624/6 "2009-09-20T16:07:21Z")
> [@How do I know if I am getting hits !!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-know-if-i-am-getting-hits/14192): > > Its a question we all ask at some point… The very first thing to do when you begin to think about purchasing pheromones is to start observing people before you use them. Ask yourself what are peoples normal general reaction to you and others around you. Are they open and friendly ? Are they intimidated ? Do they acknowledge your presence ? Do strangers generally talk to you ? Are people in a great mood when hanging around you ? Do people treat you with respect ? Are guy/girls open to you… > [@How to Test and Report On Products UPDATED 12/01](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-test-and-report-on-products-updated-12-01/6297): > > (At the bottom of this post I have included a small guide on how to find your sweet spot) It has occurred to me that alot of the new people who have reported have not given detailed reports which is something that is needed by Androtics to make new consumer products. I am guilty of this at times as well. (sorry Jas wink ) I am going to post a outline here so that new people will understand how to report so we can have some more consumer goodies faster. First off when you receive a product a… These links may help you a little. On the bottom of the second one it tells you how best to find your sweet spot. Steve has a excellent post on this subject here as well \>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\> [How to find your sweet spot...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146) Tisha ---
**Author:** ![thisistheendgame](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thisistheendgame/32/1651_2.png) [@thisistheendgame](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thisistheendgame)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-some-help-seeing-results-with-social-pheros-ig-io-is/32624/7 "2009-09-21T02:37:16Z")
Thanks for the help everyone, and thanks for the links, Tisha. I guess my worry is that even with many sprays of pheros, nothing was out of the ordinary as far as people interacting with me, the way they treated me, etc etc. I guess this week i’m just going to go phero-overkill with IO and hope something happens. I guess what i’m wondering is that is it possible that some pheros just won’t work with a certain person’s body chemistry? Like, even if I showered in [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) or something…is it a scientific possiblity that based off of my body chemistry, it won’t work the same way it works for other people? It kinda gets discouraging a bit to read some of the great hits that people get with like, one spray of IO or IS…and nothing seems to be different for me when I do 6 sprays, lol.