# I need testing help! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 22, 2010, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-testing-help/44117 "2010-12-22T01:30:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dimitri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dc4da7/32.png) [@Dimitri](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dimitri)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-testing-help/44117/1 "2010-12-22T01:30:25Z")
I read somewhere yesterday a neat little guide on how a good way to go about testing and recording results. I want to say it was sitckied, but not I cannot find it! So I turn here to help me find an answer! Here is what will be arriving tomorrow by 10:30AM: Instant Shine (2X) A314 (1.23A) [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (2X) Ammunition Instant Honesty (2X) Any suggestions on which to try first? I am going to use them all 1 week singular or maybe dual runs where I use one in the morning and one at night? I feel as though I’d like to use a314 or IS first, as they seem to be the ‘money makers’ to me hitting in the most categories. Then I could continue to wear them and use them with Ammo, IO, and IH. Or I could just throw them all on the first day and see what happens! That may work out best, but I feel as though using them one week at a time will lend to the general knowledge base more. Questions/Summary: 1. Anyone know where that guide is? 2. What should I look for when recording results? (Personal, external, and other reactions or more?) 3. Where to start? THANKS SO MUCH BECAUSE I AM UTTERLY HOPELESS RIGHT NOW! ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-testing-help/44117/2 "2010-12-22T01:39:10Z")
Where are you going? What is your goal? Are you trying to attract a girl? I would go with ammo + IS or A314 + ammo + IS, depending on your personality ---
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-testing-help/44117/3 "2010-12-22T01:46:28Z")
I say A314 A. but whatever you choose, you’re going to need to re-up since a to-go barely lasts a proper testing period. once your realise how amazing a phero is you wont have any left in the to-go to have real fun lol ---
**Author:** ![Dimitri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dc4da7/32.png) [@Dimitri](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dimitri)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-testing-help/44117/4 "2010-12-22T03:39:07Z")
@CoolKat Well, I’d be trying mainly to attract men being gay and all, but I’m not against attracting anyone! hahaha. I really want to try them all in all situations so I can grow a firm self explored base. @psylocybin Right, that’s why I got the 2X to try to make it go further for less money! I was mainly focuses on affordability for the test run so if something just /doesn’t work/ with me, I wont be out $50. ---
**Author:** ![kairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4da419/32.png) [@kairn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kairn)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-testing-help/44117/5 "2010-12-22T03:55:22Z")
I’m no expert, but this is what I’d do if I had your arsenal: If I were to be at a formal scene, like office or social gathering, then the IO, IH, IS and A314 would be my choice - I’d be looking for a cerebral connection, and to assert myself favorably without working too hard… If it were a non-sexual situation, like a public date or social gathering, then I’d use the IS, either one of IO/IH depending upon how much conversation I wanted, and throw in a bit of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) to spice it up and make them yearn… I’d add some A314 depending on how alpha or charismatic I wanted to appear… And if I were to go to a place where I could be naughty, I’d focus mostly on appearing (or smelling) like the top cat, and lure them in - WITH panache… so it would be mainly A314, IS and Ammo - with a little IO/IH if I wanted conversation… You see that I’d suggest IS in all cases, but that’s my own bias, since it’s very difficult for me to open up to strangers, so I’m kinda hoping for some self-effect to help me overcome my obstacles… Besides, it is reputed to be the ‘feel good’ potion so there can never be any harm in using it everywhere… Experts, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong in the lessons I’ve learnt… ---
**Author:** ![Dimitri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dc4da7/32.png) [@Dimitri](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dimitri)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-testing-help/44117/6 "2010-12-22T04:08:19Z")
@Kairn You agree that IS and A314 are pretty standard? That’s what I’ve seen but no one has ever spelled it out that I’ve seen… They do seem the most universally positive. ---
**Author:** ![Blacky\_Chan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blacky_chan/32/973_2.png) [@Blacky\_Chan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Blacky_Chan)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-testing-help/44117/7 "2010-12-22T04:30:18Z")
> [@Dimitri](#): > > @CoolKat Well, I’d be trying mainly to attract men being gay and all, “Mystery Boy” Pheromone Party Cologne for Gay Men :: [Spray Pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/spray-pheromones/) :: Androtics Direct ([Mystery Boy – Pheromone Party Cologne for Gay Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/)) ---
**Author:** ![Dimitri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dc4da7/32.png) [@Dimitri](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dimitri)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-testing-help/44117/8 "2010-12-22T04:37:13Z")
> [@Blacky\_Chan](#): > > “Mystery Boy” Pheromone Party Cologne for Gay Men :: Spray Pheromones :: Androtics Direct ([Mystery Boy – Pheromone Party Cologne for Gay Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/)) Yeah, I didn’t buy it because it was sold out, and it doesn’t really add attraction… It’s more of just a fun vibe. I def want to get some, but it wasn’t a priority… ---
**Author:** ![kairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4da419/32.png) [@kairn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kairn)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-testing-help/44117/9 "2010-12-22T05:25:49Z")
Same here (with MB). Besides, since MB was like a combo of IS+IO+IH, I’d rather have them individually to choose my own blend… To be honest, Dimitri, I am personally going to skip IO,IH and go straight to TUTH (along with IS & Ammo). I don’t know about your experience, but here in NYC, gay guys are out and about, pretty sex crazed at any time of day or night and do not waste time. I’m going to indulge in my devilish side and hit them with the TUTH (with or without Ammo, I’ll have to experiment a bit). It would be like throwing a piece of beef into a pack of hungry wolves… As far as men are concerned, especially in our ‘community’, subtlety would be pearls before swine… 😃 Yes, I do agree about A314 only because people advocate it almost blindly _- so I’d like to throw that in as well and see how that goes… The IS is mainly for myself - as I am rather shy and hesitant in public places, even though I have people approaching me [besides, like A314, it is also universally recommended]. I won’t be surprised if it turns into an orgiastic frenzy like the ending scene of Patrick Süskind’s ‘Le Parfum’…🆒_ ---
**Author:** ![Dimitri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dc4da7/32.png) [@Dimitri](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dimitri)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 5:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-testing-help/44117/10 "2010-12-22T05:53:56Z")
yes, yes. Of course, if sex was a goal, I’d grab the things that say SEX. I’m more interested in networking at this point, more so. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 6:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-testing-help/44117/11 "2010-12-22T06:37:30Z")
Since I see there are quite a few post and zero answers, let me help you out. There’s a search feature and some sticky’s that may help you. You want to find out what your sweet spot is. Some products are thought to have residual effects so you may want to make sure you shower well in between tests. Start with one product at a time, then gradually spray them together as if your skin is a palette. At first try something like one spray of A314-A. If you feel like you may need more, try two the next day. etc. Or one spray of IH with A314-A. Eventually you can begin adding things together as you become conscious of effects. There’s great articles if you just use the search. 🙂 Hope that helps. ---
**Author:** ![Dimitri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dc4da7/32.png) [@Dimitri](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dimitri)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 7:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-testing-help/44117/12 "2010-12-22T07:18:09Z")
Yes, yes. I’ve been doing search! I just figured it wouldn’t hurt to ask again because I was having a hard time putting together a good method to this madness! ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 7:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-testing-help/44117/13 "2010-12-22T07:49:03Z")
Ok… Here are some favs of mine for starting out with some guidelines for a journal and other stuff that can help in getting a handle on mones… I actually have them saved in my Subscriptions… > [@How to Test and Report On Products UPDATED 12/01](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-test-and-report-on-products-updated-12-01/6297): > > (At the bottom of this post I have included a small guide on how to find your sweet spot) It has occurred to me that alot of the new people who have reported have not given detailed reports which is something that is needed by Androtics to make new consumer products. I am guilty of this at times as well. (sorry Jas wink ) I am going to post a outline here so that new people will understand how to report so we can have some more consumer goodies faster. First off when you receive a product a… > [@Does this stuff work on people you've known a while?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-this-stuff-work-on-people-youve-known-a-while/43933): > > If someone has known you for a long time will they still be effected by these products? Or are they more effective when dealing with new people? > [@Research Oriented Pheromones Description + Product Value / Ingredient Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-oriented-pheromones-description-product-value-ingredient-guide/42557): > > Product Value and Price Guide(Not exact, but its close enough.) A-1: Must Home-brew it. Follow [this guide.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668) A314: About 80%(?) AndrosteR0NE, with some AndrosteNONE and 7 other pheromones in the mix as well. This is an oil based, “drip it on” kind of product, whereas the rest of the consumer line that I’m explaining comes in a spray bottle. 23.8mcg per drop. 280 drops per bottle. Regular Strength($110) = 61mcg per $. 39cents per drop. Ammunition: About 33% AndrosteNONE, 33% Alphanol, 33% An… > [@Your Skin is a Pheromone Mixing Canvas](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/your-skin-is-a-pheromone-mixing-canvas/34388): > > July 24th, 2009, 02:01 PM In the late 90s, with Erox advertising heavily on the radio, I first tried these products. I had always written off pheromones as much as I would astrology (bad astrology from carnies, anyway), but I figured if they were spending so much to advertise such a product, it might be worth a shot. And hey, it’s even available in normal department stores. I don’t have to call a 900# or go to a strange, smelly sex shop or anything fishy. So I tried the product. Did smashingly… Remember, these are Guidelines… take in the advice of those strong in mones and see how you can make it work for you!!! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 10:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-testing-help/44117/14 "2010-12-22T10:44:34Z")
It doesnt matter which one you start with. Pick which ever you like that seems to fit your needs but just use that one till you get a handle on it. Using someone elses plan wont fit your needs. Here is a link to help… > [@An Introduction to Mones: Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Duration](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003): > > Welcome to an exciting world of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). By joining our community you have taken a HUGE step in progressing a science that is cutting edge and still in its infancy. This community is globally important in recognizing pheromones, and Neuroinfluence Technology ? and their impact on human communication. There are thousands of posts here and thousands more users. Each one of us, including you, adds a unique dynamic to the community from our individual perspectives, experiences and our research an… Post 9 on finding your sweet spot. Then once you find it for each one you can layer 2 products. Pick a base like A314 and try each product with it one at a time. See what you like and what you dont like. Work up in any order. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![kairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4da419/32.png) [@kairn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kairn)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 11:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-need-testing-help/44117/15 "2010-12-22T11:31:59Z")
@Dimitri: Oh you’re absolutely right. My second post wasn’t a suggestion, just what I was about to do. But still, I would think you’d have less trouble connecting with men (for networking or any other purpose, sexual or otherwise). This is from experience and observation, that women are slightly harder to impress than men, and more difficult to approach or open a channel to (relatively speaking). That’s where the mones make a BIG difference for straight men. It’s also amusing that women open up more easily to gay guys than to straight guys (go figure). So, as for you, you’d have achieved your purpose on your own anyway, except that with your arsenal, it would become easier than pie - with more interesting results… [Just an opinion - nothing absolute…] I’d agree with Tisha and Sebastian - mones affect different people differently, so your formula must be your own.