# I tested IS on some friends

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-tested-is-on-some-friends/49789>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [April 9, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-tested-is-on-some-friends/49789 "2011-04-09T19:06:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jevarah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jevarah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jevarah)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-tested-is-on-some-friends/49789/1 "2011-04-09T19:06:06Z")

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Hey guys (and girls), i ordered IS and Ammo, but recieved IS, Ammo and [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/), anyway i did as 1Alpha said and tried IS first on some of my friends (the girl that i am interested in was not there though), i put 1 spray and tried to notice any differences, but there was nothing, then after an hour or so, i added one more spray and waited, then a girl came to me (we know each other but we just dont talk alot) and started to tell me jokes, some were good and some were not, but i laughed at all of them anyway, and she started to talk to me about her courses and university stuff, the wierd thing is we rarely talk:o to each other, rarely to the point it is just "hi"s and "bye"s, so my question is, arent all these effects IO’s effects??, shouldnt IS make me feel good and others feel good around me??

And what about that Instant Jerk thing, i read about it but couldnt understand the effects.

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**Author:** ![swiftylol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/46a35a/32.png) [@swiftylol](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/swiftylol)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-tested-is-on-some-friends/49789/2 "2011-04-09T19:34:38Z")

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Exactly, IS makes them feel good and see you as a fun person. It’s almost like saying a person smiled at you or hugged you when u wasnt wearing any mones and say that the mones should have did it. IO will increase the amount of convo, but thats its main purpose and will be more obvious and/or effective then IS in doing that.

IJ is sexual and containts alot of none, it’s pretty similar to TUTH so use it carefully and try not to OD.

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**Author:** ![Jevarah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jevarah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jevarah)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 3:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-tested-is-on-some-friends/49789/3 "2011-04-10T03:24:45Z")

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And what is an IS crash??? And can u OD with IS and what are the effects of an OD of IS if it exists??

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-tested-is-on-some-friends/49789/4 "2011-04-10T04:57:49Z")

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> [@Jevarah](#):
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> And what is an IS crash??? And can u OD with IS and what are the effects of an OD of IS if it exists??

I have never heard of an IS OD or experienced an IS OD (I’ve gone up to 4 sprays of 2x at once) but perhaps an OD of sorts would probably means a self induced crash where you overwhelm your neurotransmitters and once the effects wear out, boom.

A crash affects users differently. Some users report to have felt no effects, some purport it to be similar to a caffeine crash, some report to it to be lethargy. For me its immense sleepiness, I feel so tired I need to crash somewhere once the 4-6 hours are over. One measure I’ve taken is to limit the amount of sprays of IS I put on myself and not going trigger happy, and making sure if the situation I am going to calls for it. A314 at work is all and good, A314 + IS? Yep, but probably only if I know I’m meeting the big boss or a difficult client.

I think one distinct similarity in all the above cases is a noticeable drop in energy levels.

Apart from “sweet spot testing” I’ve taken to testing IS on myself at various times of the day just to make sure its not “night time” that’s making me sleepy.

I’ve taken to taking lunch time naps at my desk or in the washroom ever since the start of my experiment.

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 10:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-tested-is-on-some-friends/49789/5 "2011-04-10T10:43:06Z")

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If this crash thing proves to be true, IS may not the the go to mone when one goes out drinking?

I got so shit faced last night, I don’t know if I was wearing any. Not blaming IS by any means, I’ve been getting drunk pretty regularly for some 25 years and only learned to know about this stuff last summer.

Still I guess that an IS crash wouldn’t make matters any better when the booze swipes the legs from under me and I drop to my knees at the bar. Maybe it could help that disaster to occur?  
It is a disaster, because it means I’ll be walking Spanish out the door.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 1:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-tested-is-on-some-friends/49789/6 "2011-04-10T13:06:01Z")

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The effects of crash are not the same for everyone although it goes along similar lines. I think if we take the majority of effects, it just means you’ll feel tired or sleepy, basically your energy levels drop. Who knows, maybe you’re one of the awesome bunch that’s totally unaffected.

Getting wasted on the other hand is a totally different matter, especially if alcohol is involved.

I’d say if you know you’re going to be wasted cos of alcohol, go ahead, knock yourself out with the IS. The possible crash would be the least of my worries. Heck, throw in a couple of Jagerbombs and see if the red bull will help. Its like saying “Downing an esspresso or two now might make me more wasted once the beer/acohol gets to me”

If you’re out drinking, depending on what you’re trying to achieve or the effects you’re trying to get for the night, IS might be a pretty good companion, so I wouldn’t think about skipping it, especially if you’re thinking of getting some game.

You could probably limit your intake of alcohol and experiment over the next few weeks the effects of alcohol + mones on you. 5 beers for the night with IS on you. 5 beers for the night with 2 sprays of IS on you. 5 beers for the night with 1 spray of TUTH on you. 5 beers for the night with 2 sprays of TUTH on you. 5 beers for the night with 1 spray IS and 1 spray TUTH on you. You get where I’m going.

Who knows, instead of walking spanish, you might walk out with the chicks. Then I’d say you’d be walking French - Ménage à trois

> [@Misein](#):
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> If this crash thing proves to be true, IS may not the the go to mone when one goes out drinking?
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> I got so shit faced last night, I don’t know if I was wearing any. Not blaming IS by any means, I’ve been getting drunk pretty regularly for some 25 years and only learned to know about this stuff last summer.
> 
> Still I guess that an IS crash wouldn’t make matters any better when the booze swipes the legs from under me and I drop to my knees at the bar. Maybe it could help that disaster to occur?  
> It is a disaster, because it means I’ll be walking Spanish out the door.

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**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-tested-is-on-some-friends/49789/7 "2011-04-11T16:19:30Z")

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Thing is, I never count on passing out when I drink but sometimes the alcohol just hits too hard. Usually when I’ve worked long hours and then have a few drinks. Depends very much on the intake of food etc. too.

Not really anything I go around worrying about. Usually just apologize to the bouncers and other personnel the next time I see them and it’s OK.

I haven’t gotten any kind of crash with IS in any state. Most I’ve used is two sprays of the double strength. I could be immune to such things due to a life-long, heavy intake of coffee. I don’t feel caffeine crashes either.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-tested-is-on-some-friends/49789/8 "2011-04-11T16:59:55Z")

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> [@swiftylol](#):
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> Exactly, IS makes them feel good and see you as a fun person. It’s almost like saying a person smiled at you or hugged you when u wasnt wearing any mones and say that the mones should have did it. IO will increase the amount of convo, but thats its main purpose and will be more obvious and/or effective then IS in doing that.
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> IJ is sexual and containts alot of none, it’s pretty similar to TUTH so use it carefully and try not to OD.

IJ is only similar to tuth in the main component, which is Androstenone. However, 12.5mcg of -none compared to 2.5mcg’s in TUTH have COMPLETELY different reactions and effects. So no those two are not the same and give different vibes.

> [@Jevarah](#):
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> shouldnt IS make me feel good and others feel good around me??
> 
> And what about that Instant Jerk thing, i read about it but couldnt understand the effects.

Two things, don’t be led on by the name itself of the product. Use it and see how it affects you. Like the other posters said, if people feel great around you then they would obviously talk to you.

> [@Jevarah](#):
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> And what is an IS crash??? And can u OD with IS and what are the effects of an OD of IS if it exists??

Depleted NT’s are the main causes of “crashes” I’ve found that if you stay hydrated it helps mitigate those effects, if any.

> [@Misein](#):
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> If this crash thing proves to be true, IS may not the the go to mone when one goes out drinking?
> 
> I got so shit faced last night, I don’t know if I was wearing any. Not blaming IS by any means, I’ve been getting drunk pretty regularly for some 25 years and only learned to know about this stuff last summer.
> 
> Still I guess that an IS crash wouldn’t make matters any better when the booze swipes the legs from under me and I drop to my knees at the bar. Maybe it could help that disaster to occur?  
> It is a disaster, because it means I’ll be walking Spanish out the door.

I’ve used IS a buncha times going drinking. Alcohol is already a depressant by itself, so regardless of the mones, you’re still going to crash with excessive drinking. After a while, your body should get used to it and the effects after the fact shouldn’t be as bad as when you first started.
