# I think I just hit on myself!!! \[ P83 and P86 \] **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 3, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-think-i-just-hit-on-myself-p83-and-p86/23590 "2008-12-03T20:54:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tessa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Tessa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tessa)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-think-i-just-hit-on-myself-p83-and-p86/23590/1 "2008-12-03T20:54:10Z")
Yesterday, I was going through my shoebox of pheros and sprayed on 2 sprays of instant shine for a little pick-me-up. I noticed my two bottles of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) and P86 that I haven’t used much and figured I would give them a shot. According to forum posts I have read, the P83 is supposed to make mixes a little sexier and the P86 brings out good qualities in people and they are supposed to work well together. So I put on 1 spray of P83 (20mcg/spray) and 3 sprays of P86 (20 mcg/spray). Did not notice any immediate effects other than feeling slightly relaxed. I went to do some work on the computer and kind of forgot about it for a while. About an hour and a half later, I caught a glimpse of myself in my bedroom mirror and, hot damn, if it didn’t look like I had lost 5 lbs and been airbrushed for a photo shoot!!! My hair looked perfect, my skin looked radiant and extremely healthy, rosy cheeks, eyes looked brighter, etc. etc.!!! Now, I normally consider myself decent looking and fairly presentable, but this was definitely kicked up a notch or two!!! It was almost as if my good qualities were enhanced and the not-so-good qualities just sort of faded into the background unnoticed. This combo has definite potential. I can see using this for all sorts of things. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-think-i-just-hit-on-myself-p83-and-p86/23590/2 "2008-12-03T21:53:45Z")
Hahahaha! I love the title of your post, tessa! Sounds like a winning combination to me. I could use a bit of air-brushing in my life as well… hmm… or maybe just a few more sit-ups. Either way, couldnt hurt to try it! Have you talked to someone else and noticed a new reaction from them? Or still sitting at your computer and looking in the mirror? 😉 I’d be interested how other people react to you, since [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is meant to affect other people more than you. Tell me how it works out! ---
**Author:** ![Tessa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Tessa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tessa)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-think-i-just-hit-on-myself-p83-and-p86/23590/3 "2008-12-03T23:46:00Z")
Thanks Mr. Feel Good! I’m looking forward to trying it out in public. I was just messing around with it the other day, and I’m glad I did!! I usually get good reactions from people when I wear [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). I’ll post any results I get using it with the P83-P86 combo 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 1:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-think-i-just-hit-on-myself-p83-and-p86/23590/4 "2008-12-04T13:09:09Z")
LOL. That is the combo I need - look instantly lighter and ready for a photo shoot. And not the post office wall kind either … lol. Not that I have anything against the USPS, Tisha. Just do not want to be featured in the photos there. (She can be a little sensitive sometimes … and it is too cold to run around as a salamander …) ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-think-i-just-hit-on-myself-p83-and-p86/23590/5 "2008-12-04T17:06:22Z")
hehe! I’m sure you are well worth hitting on, even by yourself!!! 😃 Diane ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 8:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-think-i-just-hit-on-myself-p83-and-p86/23590/6 "2008-12-06T08:34:47Z")
I call it the “Shallow Hal” effect. P86 makes people look attractive, and it makes _you_ look attractive to other people. ---
**Author:** ![Tessa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Tessa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tessa)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 7:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-think-i-just-hit-on-myself-p83-and-p86/23590/7 "2008-12-06T19:35:39Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > I call it the “Shallow Hal” effect. P86 makes people look attractive, and it makes _you_ look attractive to other people. That’s so funny!! Does it work consistently for you? I would love to harness the powers of this one. It may be my new favorite! Also, thanks Diane, you’re a sweetie! Love your kitten avatar 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-think-i-just-hit-on-myself-p83-and-p86/23590/8 "2008-12-06T21:19:04Z")
> [@Tessa](#): > > Also, thanks Diane, you’re a sweetie! Love your kitten avatar 🙂 Ahhh! Thanks! 🙂 Diane ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2008, 3:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-think-i-just-hit-on-myself-p83-and-p86/23590/9 "2008-12-07T03:29:32Z")
> [@Tessa](#): > > Does it work consistently for you? I would love to harness the powers of this one. It may be my new favorite! > > Also, thanks Diane, you’re a sweetie! Love your kitten avatar 🙂 Yes, it is pretty consistent. Check out my [P86 Sensuality Mix](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812/13). If misdirected, it can make ugly things seem yuckier instead of beautiful things more beautiful. I like to mix it 5:1 with P87, which helps with that. [P87 is an empathogen](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p87-the-brain-clutter-cleaner/19709/11), so it makes it less shallow also. But the P87 will quickly over-ride the P86 effects so don’t use too much P87! ---
**Author:** ![Tessa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Tessa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tessa)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-think-i-just-hit-on-myself-p83-and-p86/23590/10 "2008-12-10T19:09:20Z")
That’s great info, Warren! Did you mix up the P86 sensuality mix in a to-go bottle, or do you spray on each one separately? I’m definitely gonna try something like it. Interesting that the TAA heightens the effects. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 4:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-think-i-just-hit-on-myself-p83-and-p86/23590/11 "2008-12-11T04:29:46Z")
When I was first developing it, of course, it was each component separately until I knew how much of each was best. Now, I mix up about 40ml at a time. It takes about five sprays for one dose (six togo). Actually it takes 4.75 plus I add 10% DPG oil, which leaves 5.225 sprays, but let’s just call five. Eventually, I want to make it more concentrated, but that will require very concentrated (i.e. expensive) component [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). Yes, the TAA definitely heightens the effect. The 5mcg in the mix is probably less than the optimal amount, but I figure I am liable already to be wearing some TAA oil when I put on the Sensuality Mix and I don’t want to od on TAA. Here’s my mix table. For an explaination of mix tables [click here](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/measuring-pheromones/23150/11). dose pher conc spray 4x ml ## 50mcg P86 100mcg 1/2 02 04 10mcg P87 040mcg 1/4 01 02 10mcg P83 020mcg 1/2 02 04 05mcg TAA 020mcg 1/4 01 02 06mcg TAF 025mcg 1/4 01 02 10mcg MEO 020mcg 1/2 02 04 02spr LTr 001spr 002 08 16 7.5mu P80 030mcg 1/4 01 02 2.5mu P81 010mcg 1/4 01 02 xxxxx xxx xxxxx 4.75 19 38 Then I add 10% or about 4ml DPG oil so I wind up with 42ml (one spray bottle and two togo bottles).