# I thought this stuff was supposed to smell good?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [December 2, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498 "2008-12-02T01:33:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![dfalk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@dfalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dfalk)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/1 "2008-12-02T01:33:27Z")

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So I got my first order today of 4 to go bottles to try this stuff out. My first impression is wow this stuff stinks and I dont think id ever wanna wear it.

[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)- smells like a dirty old mans cologne.  
IS- smells like pure rubbing alcohol.  
IO- smells like pure rubbing alcohol.  
TUTH- only one that smells decent and could see myself wearing.

I guess ill have to just wear it out one night to get a true opinion on it. Any suggestions on what to try first and how much?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/2 "2008-12-02T01:39:46Z")

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> [@dfalk](#):
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> So I got my first order today of 4 to go bottles to try this stuff out. My first impression is wow this stuff stinks and I dont think id ever wanna wear it.
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> Ammo- smells like a dirty old mans cologne.  
> IS- smells like pure rubbing alcohol.  
> IO- smells like pure rubbing alcohol.  
> TUTH- only one that smells decent and could see myself wearing.
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> I guess ill have to just wear it out one night to get a true opinion on it. Any suggestions on what to try first and how much?

Well now, the only one of those products with any scent added to try to make it smell nice is Ammo, and that cologne scent is personal preference. To be honest, it’s not my favorite smell either, but who am i to judge? However, were these smells you didnt like right after you sprayed the product, or during the whole 4-6 hours the pheromones were active? Typically the pheromones will smell strongly for 15-20 min, then fade into the background, where they will do their job quite nicely. Also, feel free to add a spritz of your own favorite cologne over any of the products (although it may clash with Ammo’s scent), since this wont affect the ability of the pheromones at all.

As for what to try first, if you’re not in love with the scent of Ammo, i would suggest either Instant Shine or [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). Try wearing about 2-3 sprays of instant shine when going out shopping, or to a class(?) and see if you notice any extra smiles or glances coming your way. Or if you know a girl who has been a little reluctant to talk to you, try wearing 2-3 sprays of instant openness around her and see if she responds any better. Now, these doses depend on where you are (a club or bar has many guy’s pheromones floating around, so you need more to register with a girl) and how old you are. The younger you are, the more pheromones you still produce naturally and the less sprays you’ll need per use.

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**Author:** ![that1guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@that1guy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/that1guy)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 1:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/3 "2008-12-02T01:41:21Z")

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Also, the ones with the alcohol base will evaporate within a minute or two, leaving just the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), so that smell shouldnt be a problem at all.

_edited for bad grammer_

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**Author:** ![dfalk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@dfalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dfalk)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/4 "2008-12-02T01:43:28Z")

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^I havnt worn any of them yet. I just did one spray of each on a piece of paper. Now that I smell them later thay arnt as strong as the initial spray.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/5 "2008-12-02T01:46:09Z")

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Problem solved?

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 1:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/6 "2008-12-02T01:50:14Z")

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LOL Who told you that ?

Mones smell like mones, You know where they come from right. The synthetic molecule mimics the smell of bodily secretions. sweat pee other funky stuff.

AMMO smells good to me and every women I know who has smelled it but alot of men dont think so. We are reacting to the mones though.

Ishine smells like neroli and scent wise is nice but strong

IO smells like dirty old feet to me

TUTH makes my eyes roll back in my head. I love the smell. The men think it smells like cat piss.

Everyone perceives the smell differently which is why we spend alot of time talking about cover scents. Oddly enough once its on you people will compliment you on it and you will look at them like there nuts LOL They are reacting to the mones not the smell. The smell just carrys it.

Why does it have to smell ? Because to synthetically make the molecule you end up mimicing the smell of it. Its part of the phermones makeup. If it smelled like a rose it wouldnt be a [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/).

Tisha

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**Author:** ![dfalk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@dfalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dfalk)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/7 "2008-12-02T05:11:15Z")

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Ok well i guess i just jumped to conclusions to fast. Tonight I sprayed 1 spray of instant shine on my wrist and rubbed them together. I ended up really liking it and was constantly smelling my wrist.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/8 "2008-12-02T05:25:26Z")

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Its ok, It does smell different on you then on a napkin.

I still think IO smells like dirty feet on or off me though LOL 😉

Tisha

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**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 9:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/9 "2008-12-02T09:07:31Z")

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[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) smelling like dirty feet? And then you’d _tell_ the person they smelled like dirty feet… because of the pheros. Not good. 🙂

If Ammo smells like your cat’s pee, I want to know what breed of cat you’ve got. ?)

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**Author:** ![BiGGieK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@BiGGieK](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BiGGieK)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 10:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/10 "2008-12-02T10:30:59Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> TUTH makes my eyes roll back in my head. I love the smell. The men think it smells like cat piss.  
> Tisha

HeHe, very true! I perceive it as _cat piss_ too! and yet… I wear TUTH alone without any sort of cover scent 😃  
I don’t mind the smell of _cat piss_ :o

I have yet to get any complaints of reeking like cat pee pee. Perhaps people are too scared to say something to me 😛

BK

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**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/11 "2008-12-02T19:46:10Z")

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Some observations from when I first started using these.

1. Most people can’t smell them. Some people can smell them. What they actually smell varies from person to person.

2. I have never run across a woman who smells anything but something good when I’m wearing these. This initially drove me crazy. I was sure I smelled bad but got nothing but compliments.

3. Some people at least (for example, me) habituate the smell. I can’t smell anything now except a faint whiff similar to isopropyl alcohol. Odd considering it used to smell so strong to me…especially A314. Now…nothing.

4. When I did smell these, it was easy to mask with a good cologne. Aramis, Polo, Calvin Klein. Mostly, I don’t even bother now. Women comment on the cover scent but it really isn’t the smell they find pleasing. It’s how they feel around me.

It’s not a big deal and in no way should it deter you from reaping the benefits of wearing these.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/12 "2008-12-02T20:02:01Z")

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> [@dfalk](#):
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> I thought this stuff was supposed to smell good?

Think about it. Pheromones are naturally produced out of your crotch, ass, mouth, armpits and urine. It’s a pretty much a no brainer that mones are gonna stink like piss, BO and crotch. EVen if you can’t smell it–I suspect you can’t smell androstenone since you like TUTH–most others can. Tread lightly and cover with a nice cologne and you should be fine. Most women I know (East Asians) can smell androstenone and don’t like it. They basically think you need a shower really badly. Some think you just pissed yourself. Other races seem more tolerant to the funk.

I liked the original Ammo scent. The new Ammo cologne scent is “Game” and smells like hell to me. I don’t know about dirty old man–they usually wear expensive designer colognes–it just smells sour and cheap.

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**Author:** ![future777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/future777/32/2258_2.png) [@future777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/future777)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/13 "2008-12-03T04:15:49Z")

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I agree about the smell of ammo.. i wore 1.5 sprays to class today and some girl on the other end of the class said “who dropped the cologne bomb”.. its too floral

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**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 7:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/14 "2008-12-03T07:34:07Z")

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> [@future777](#):
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> I agree about the smell of ammo.. i wore 1.5 sprays to class today and some girl on the other end of the class said “who dropped the cologne bomb”.. its too floral

You can get Ammo in the [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) scent… much lighter, and is easier to cover with your own cologne scent, which would be my own preference anyways. I’m not a big fan of the two colognes it was described as smelling like. However, it does cost more to do it that way. If you wanted to, go under the Custom Additions link on Smartmones and add Men’s Fragrance customization to your cart with the scent you want.

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**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 12:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/15 "2008-12-03T12:31:23Z")

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> [@future777](#):
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> I agree about the smell of ammo.. i wore 1.5 sprays to class today and some girl on the other end of the class said “who dropped the cologne bomb”.. its too floral

I am curious – did you spray it on right before you walked into the class, or had it had plenty of time to dry down? I think Ammo is very understated after it dries down, as are the Androtics products I have tried. They don’t really smell perfumey at all.

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**Author:** ![future777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/future777/32/2258_2.png) [@future777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/future777)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 3:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/16 "2008-12-03T15:16:12Z")

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> [@Mr.Feel\_Good](#):
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> You can get Ammo in the Neroli scent… much lighter, and is easier to cover with your own cologne scent, which would be my own preference anyways. I’m not a big fan of the two colognes it was described as smelling like. However, it does cost more to do it that way. If you wanted to, go under the Custom Additions link on Smartmones and add Men’s Fragrance customization to your cart with the scent you want.

Hm I think I will do that.. I like the neroli scent anyway. Thanks Feel Good.

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> I am curious – did you spray it on right before you walked into the class, or had it had plenty of time to dry down? I think Ammo is very understated after it dries down, as are the Androtics products I have tried. They don’t really smell perfumey at all.

I sprayed it to the neck two hours before class..

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**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/17 "2008-12-03T15:29:56Z")

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Now the only thing left to do is send me the Ammo you have left… can’t be letting it go to waste, now can we? 🙄 But i’d only be taking it in order to help YOU out.

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**Author:** ![future777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/future777/32/2258_2.png) [@future777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/future777)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/18 "2008-12-03T15:56:22Z")

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Wow I really appreciate that.. thats very selfless of you Feel Good 😛

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**Author:** ![Fragmaster5000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e79b87/32.png) [@Fragmaster5000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fragmaster5000)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/19 "2008-12-03T15:58:40Z")

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I tried Spaceland in public yesterday and decided to use a “my skin has been really dry lately so my sister suggested I use some cream she picked up at Whole Foods” followed with either “it rained the first two days I used it, so I’m convinced it works” or “I’ve been using so many soy-based products lately my estrogen must be off the charts.” I think it smells like the cedar and chlorophyll mixtures used to line rabbit cages. As it turns out, I didn’t have to use that excuse at all.

I’m sure “My ex-girlfriend bought it for me last year for Christmas” or “It was the last birthday present my grandmother gave me” should work too. Every woman’s scent preferences are different, and as they get older, those preferences change.

If you need an excuse to smell the way you do, at least have something prepared before you wear it. Sentimentality and humor will go a long way in disarming a negative reaction, and a good excuse will also cover why you’ll be continuing to wear it.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-this-stuff-was-supposed-to-smell-good/23498/20 "2008-12-03T16:07:59Z")

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> [@Fragmaster5000](#):
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> I tried Spaceland in public yesterday and decided to use a “my skin has been really dry lately so my sister suggested I use some cream she picked up at Whole Foods” followed with either “it rained the first two days I used it, so I’m convinced it works” or “I’ve been using so many soy-based products lately my estrogen must be off the charts.”

“it rained the first two days i wore it”? That is quite possibly the silliest explanation i have ever heard for wearing a scent… i must use it. But as you are the creator of said line, i figured i would formally ask your permission first. 😉

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