# I used 5 drops of A314 tonight.

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**Created:** [February 7, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-used-5-drops-of-a314-tonight/36037 "2010-02-07T04:52:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stud\_Muffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@Stud\_Muffin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stud_Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-used-5-drops-of-a314-tonight/36037/1 "2010-02-07T04:52:52Z")

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I don’t know why I did now, lol I wish I didn’t because i feel it did ruin the night for me. But now I at least know what it does at 5 drops.

2 drops, one to each side of neck.  
1 under nose.  
1 on neck/collarbone  
1 on back of hand rubbed on to other hand.

Self effects I felt serious, I mean I really felt serious. And my eyes where stinging, I had to keep blinking hard all night lol.

Picked friend up and went to bar, not that many people in there but I really felt like I couldn’t be bothered to approach any girls, I felt kind of lazy.

In this bar I saw to girl that I use to go to school with about 5-6 years ago, I have seen them a few years ago, but not speaking. She came up to me and said hello, and making small chat, then I said a few things to her, and she leaned back and said wow, you have really changed, your outgoing. It was like she couldn’t believe it or something, and she said some other things and gave me a playful kino hit to my belly, which was not needed 😉 And swiftly went to go change or something and coming back a few minuets later, asking me what I thought, oh the new top she got on asking me if its better then the one before and shit…bla bla bla I said you will probley get laid lol. And she said she didn’t want to get laid, and I said well what do you want then, and she said I want my boyfriend to like it…etc Bla bla bla. Then she shooted off. Saw her later and she gave me a cuddle and kiss on cheeck saying it was good to see me..etc.

The other girl that I saw which was her sister, came over to me later and said hello, just small banter gave me a playful slapp to my shoulder for me saying she looking like her sister and saying there twins..etc. Lol I think she knows her sister is not as good looking as her. Then she shooted off.

When I usually go out, I do usually notice that I get quite alot of IOI’s and I never really act on them, In bars and clubs I get approach anxiety and shit. But in normal day life I am ok talking to a woman, it’s nothing its just talking..etc But in a bar/club there is something different, its like a different world to me. But I have my odd night, where I can easily force my self to start opening, but I havent been to bar/club in months! And to be true I am really going off them, there is a big part of that just wants to get on with everything else thats the opposite to woman, and then just meet woman through other ways, which does not involve going to a bar or club. I don’t drink, I don’t smoke, and I got gym 3 times a week and I do Latin and ballroom dancing 3 times a week.

Anyway me and my friend go to this club and this night I really feel like a ghost. I notice NO IOI’s what so ever, to be true I notice girls didn’t even look at me!!! It really felt like I wasn’t there! Even when my friend saw a girl that he knows he introduced me and she just didn’t even say hello or nothing, she just looking at me for a few seconds, it was weird, but he then said this is my friend introduce your self. And she said hello and I gave a greeting cuddle and shit, then straight away she turned her attention straight back to him, it really felt like I wasn’t there. Now this did make me feel abit down to be true because usually I do get alot of IOI’s and girls look at me and smile, but I noticed when I was looking at girls they would not even smile at me, just look at me for split second and look away. But I must say I did feel really serious from the 5 drops though, but I was laughing towards then end because I started to think it was funny…well maybe laughing trying to hid my crying! haha. I adventurously tried to wash off the drops with water in the bathroom, I don’t think water alone would do it but I tried. But by this time I was really tired, and couldn’t be bothered to speak to any birds to be true. Called it a night after a while of just sitting down.

This had really made me think about by usage of A314, specially as I wear 3 drops to dancing, mainly because there is this older woman that I like, and she does seem into me, she seem to look forward to dancing with me on a particular day, and I even remember her saying one night that she hoped that I would be here to dance with tonight. I think the A314 did a good job with the older ladies, I have wore 2 drops one night and 3 drops one night, of course with 2-3 sprays of CTTM2. I noticed the dancing night with the 3 drops woman with other partners get smiling at me and staring at me whilst they where dancing with there partners, when I was dancing with mine. it was weird. But then again, a night were I just wore 2 drops of A314 only, I had to keep swapping partners this night, and one of the woman that I like kept trying to avoid eye contact with me, and even when I went to ask her or her friend to dance she tried to avoid eye contact so she didnt have too. But I still did in the end that night, she had too baby! And I was dancing with her for longer without swapping and she kept saying I feel like I am hogging you. After a while she got her friend to dance with me.

Anyway a week later I made the effort to speak to these woman after dance, I found out the one I felt like tried not to make eye contact with me and said she felt like she is hogging me, has a BF! which is shame because I like her. I was talking to her and her friends and every time I spoke they ALL had the attention on me, even when I said something little there heads went to straight to me! which was cool, I felt high value I have to say. I found out her other friends are single though, because they are like 10 years older then me, I know A314 will help right? I am just a sucker for older woman man! I just love them! I feel they are on my same wavelength, cuts thought the shit like butter aswell. I just need to find a way of me finding out if the woman is interested in me in a certain way, before I can make a move that would move things forward in that direction.

I have only A413, and maybe to 2 full sprays of IH x2 and one full spray of CTTM2 Haha!

Tell me what you think about all this guys 😉

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**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-used-5-drops-of-a314-tonight/36037/2 "2010-02-07T06:18:34Z")

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hey hey, A314, one my favorites…  
5 drops seems way way way to much D:  
a314 does tons, or can be ur death, because it makes you seem alpha male, it gives you respect distance, to much will push ppl away,  
for me i use about 2 A314, it gives me the alpha vibe, and then i buffer it with socials, usually cttm2, and shine,  
This is may be why the lack of eye contact/ girls looking away, they since you joe millionaire important big shot, and think they are not good enough for you.  
so if ur going use A314 alone id use no more then 2 drops (but u should experiment to find your sweet spot)  
also you will have to work a lil bit with A314, you got to get rid of the respect distance and be the powerful man  
good luck 😃

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**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 11:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-used-5-drops-of-a314-tonight/36037/3 "2010-02-07T11:50:33Z")

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Well next time use 1-2 drops of a314 instead of 5.Using too much of this product is not so beneficial and it causes overdoses.But 1-2 drops are just magical. 😉

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**Author:** ![Stud\_Muffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@Stud\_Muffin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stud_Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-used-5-drops-of-a314-tonight/36037/4 "2010-02-07T16:14:10Z")

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Hey thanks guys! 🙂

Waking up and thinking about my night has made me see more light in what A314 does!  
Last night I felt a bit down about the night, I was even thinking of stop using [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) all together!! haha. But I am really glad I did the 5 drops now! Because I have using 3-4 drops mark quite a bit lately, but using 5 drops has made me want to start using 1-2 drops now! So this is good because I don’t think I would of started if I didn’t see how it effects at 5 drops.

How the night played out has made me see sence, in what A314 does. I think the girl I saw which I used go to school with picked up on my new A314 5 drop signature, thats why she was coulnt belive how much I have ‘changed’ 😉 But I also noticed she was into me, but eager to quickly shoot of and go, lots of respect, and I noticed this most if not all the attention was on me not my friend.

Thinking about this aswell my friend gave me quite alot of compliments, for example, he was saying stuff like ‘‘I dont want sound gay man, but I really enjoy coming out with you’’, ‘‘I have allways thought you was a good looking guy’’ …These kind of comments where really out of the blue, they where not related to a discussion we was having just rare out of the blue compliments, the kind where I was like…‘‘errrr ok, thanks man’’ with me wondering why he was saying this stuff..etc lol.

In the club in a way it felt good because it was like I was walking around I would have no problem what so ever, it was really like I wasn’t there. Or I could put it like all the other people wasn’t there! lol. Just me and the club and the music…ahhhhh kind of peaceful! lol.

So what really happens when you use more drops of A314? Does it just make your value even higher with each drop?

Using A314 with lets say with CTTM2, how does this change it? If you still keep the high value, why do you become more approachable?

Thinking about when I was using 2 drops only at dancing, and me seeing one of the woman trying not to make eye contact..etc And felt she was hogging me..etc Thinking about this if the 2 drops only, did make me high value this would be her reaction right? she felt she had to share me, she didnt feel like she deserved to dance with only me..etc? But then again would a woman ‘‘if she liked you liked you’’ …would she try to avoid contact with you, because she has a partner and wouldn’t want to get close to you?

There are times when I think I understand woman, and then I understand I DON’T, and I never truly will, you know lol. I am ALWAYS looking at body language, IOI’s, I do it automatically now, I automatically count the IOI’s lol. I wont pursue the one with the BF but I just like to know, why people do things, its interesting stuff, and if things happen future you can understand more of people ways.

I think this is one of the most fun things about using pheromones seeing and looking for ‘HIT’s’ lol. It feels good when you understand why things are happening, specially when they related to the mones you are using 😉

Because I will need to get some socials soon!, well when they are instock! lol. I gather instant openness closes the gap and makes me much more approachable right but I still keep the high value from A314? But is this also the case with IH, or does this not help much with your approachability?.

Also I know a314 make you SEXY, what would Ammo add to the A314? You will come across as alpha, leader, dominant, higher value, and IO would make seem more approachable, and then ammo, what would this do?

Thanks guys

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**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-used-5-drops-of-a314-tonight/36037/5 "2010-02-07T16:51:18Z")

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this is just from the store itself  
To lighten the tone of A314 and make it “friendlier” and “more fun”, use with 1-4 sprays of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to each drop of A314.

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> To lighten the tone of A314 and make it “friendlier” and “more fun”, use with 1-4 sprays of Instant Openness to each drop of A314.
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> To deepen the A314 effect to make people feel like they’ve known you a long time and to encourage them to “tell you everything”, use with 1-5 sprays of Instant Honesty.
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> To add a sexual spark to A314 and make the effect more dominant and physical, use with 1-4 sprays of Turn Up The Heat. This is a great nighttime combination. Larger doses (more than 1 or 2 sprays) of Turn Up the Heat may not be appropriate for daytime use.
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> To make everyone feel greater comfort around you, use with Instant Openness. Please note that this may reduce the positive mood & leadership effects A314 has on other men.
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> To add a finishing “sparkle and shine” to your pheromone mix, add Instant Shine. A real mood and confidence booster for most people, it’ll help make you and everyone around you feel great. It’s even been shown to have sexually suggestive effects on women that are appropriate for daytime use (unlike large doses of Turn Up The Heat or other primarily androstenone based products).

in the stickies is has something about OD, ghosting,and tons of other info.  
copied from “The Snook’s big book o’ pheros for rookies” ([The Snook's big book o' pheros for rookies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879))

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> A) Use very little. Start low, and GRADUALLY increase until you find your sweet spot.  
> B) -None can make bad things happen in high doses. People will get angry, cranky, even possibly violent with you.  
> C) -None in high doses can also make you have a ghost effect, meaning that people will ignore you. the reason for this is because you have an unnaturally high -none signature, and they don’t know how to process this, so their mind shuts your signature out as an unreadable signature.  
> D) The Snook does recommend that you DO OD at least once, just so you know what negative signs to look for when you find your “sweet spot”, that phero signature that gets the best reactions from everyone, you included.

about ammo and a314 in my journal (link below) page 3 😃  
it is one of my favorites, effing hand-job in movie theater with her friends right next to us 😮

A314 kinda makes u sexy, it makes u the trustworthy dominant male, which alot of girls like, anding ammo or what not can be amazing 😃

but yeah in my journal got some my favorite A314  
also there is a link below with a TON of mixes and combos (recipes) it needs to be updated but the combos in it still work 😃

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**Author:** ![Stud\_Muffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@Stud\_Muffin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stud_Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-used-5-drops-of-a314-tonight/36037/6 "2010-02-07T23:23:14Z")

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Thanks bedojo, I appreciate it 😉 ([https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo))

I think I come across as quite intimidating, I am 6ft tall, quite muscular physic… the thing is though I would say I AM alpha but only in certain ways. I am a laid back kind of guy and when I first meet a new person I am quiet, but once I get to know them I open up. Same with woman, the whole approaching new woman is tough but soon as I have a number and on the phone to them and meet them one on one I am super fine!

So me using the A314 don’t help with me being intimidating, but I want to come across as higher value, a man that women want. I want to be high value and all the good quality of a ideal man, but I want them to see me as approachable and friendly and attractive at the same time.

So I am thinking of carry on using A314 but at 2 drops, and when possible I will get some socials when I can, most likely CTTM2 and really try to work my socials so I break that barrier and get some [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), to bring some extra attractiveness to my super sexy self 😉 If you was me in my situation, and can only get IO or CTTM2 what you get?

Thanks

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**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-used-5-drops-of-a314-tonight/36037/7 "2010-02-07T23:31:07Z")

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i love cttm2. got a cute hair cutters number, and talked for ever even after the hair cut, IO is just cttm2 - IH, and I didn’t really care for IH or IO alone but together they work great for me 😃

edit: good thing about socials, is it is attractive, not in the sexual way, but makes u look like ur socially accepted, and girls love that 😃 something iv always had trouble with 😛  
btw the rules of the game is an awesome book to help improve ur social skills, it basically is a bunch of tasks that u have to do and u cant do the next one till u complete the one ur on, (if u do it properly which everyone should), it more of a way of life change then a how to pick up girls guide

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**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-used-5-drops-of-a314-tonight/36037/8 "2010-02-08T02:18:41Z")

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My advice is to go with CTTM2.That way u will get exellent social product witch will combine the characteristics of both IO and IH.And when using ammo with a314 be aware that both a314 and ammo are said to contain anrosterone and androstenone so such a combination may lead to overdose similar to what u’ve got when used alot of a314.So if u decide to mix the two products - do it carefully.U’re only 21 years old so u probably produce alot of -none so better not to use too much more because instead of helping you it may get you the ghost effect.ammo combined with a314 will get the androsterone and androstenone both get in higher dosages but if you want to make just stronger and sexual a314 effect maybe u should use tuth as it is androstenone only.And yet for your age this combined with the a314 may get you some overdoses.So better try some to-go tuth or ammo and see how it pairs up with the a314.Adding some CTTM2 to the mix won’t hurt eighter.  
Have fun. 😉

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**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-used-5-drops-of-a314-tonight/36037/9 "2010-02-08T02:33:21Z")

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^^ what Casanova said is true, but should have to be to afraid of it, im 19 i wore a314 and ammo, do gota be careful but ammo is buffed just dont go crazy with the high -none combos,  
ALSO to get increased self effects with A314, after applying it to where ever u do ( then with the finger u used rub the extra on upper lip )  
there is a whole form dedicated only to A314,

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> Exclusive, private forum for active A314 users only. Send a private message (PM) to Steve if you’ve purchased A314 within the past 6 months, and want access. Include your order # or store email address and your password will be sent back to you.

lots good info in their, and every single / combo dosages are different for different people be sure to find ur sweet spot 😃
