# I wanna try putatives, please help me **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 13, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-wanna-try-putatives-please-help-me/21266 "2008-10-13T00:27:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Saifz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Saifz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Saifz)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-wanna-try-putatives-please-help-me/21266/1 "2008-10-13T00:27:23Z")
which ones have you tried and liked? There’s too many topics for me to search and look. I’ve seen lately some good talk about [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) which makes people comfortable which might help me, I intimidate a lot for some reason eventhough I’m 5’4 and have a big gut.. could be my coldness.. anything that has to do with comfort, throwing smiles around and making people feel good and myself too, and losing inhibitions is a great thing too. I’m up for buying 6 of those things i see a lot of people use them here.. which ones would u recommend please? ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-wanna-try-putatives-please-help-me/21266/2 "2008-10-13T00:37:00Z")
Yeah I like P74 for the reasons you cite. I also like P79 although it is very different a putative to P74… it doesn’t really have the qualities you are after in your post, but is a good one. I’d like to try P83 and [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) next. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 1:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-wanna-try-putatives-please-help-me/21266/3 "2008-10-13T01:15:11Z")
I say go with [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) first since you have a interest and familiarity with it. Its good stuff, Have you tried any of the T series. These are putatives to. TAF TAK and TAC are good for testing. A few tips on testing putatives. Remember they are not mixes they are single molecules and can be harder to pin point. Start them out like you do the rest of your mone products. 1 spray and work up. You may need to go higher with these then you do with normal mixes. Look for behavoir patterns, even those unrelated to you. Sometimes putatives just cause a atmosphere or feeling and there reaction may not be directly to you. Consistant behavoir whe exposed will help you determine what they do. Have fun with it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-wanna-try-putatives-please-help-me/21266/4 "2008-10-13T01:32:15Z")
If you don’t have the patience to search the threads yourself, look up Visionary’s posts as he’s pretty much done the work for you. It’s worth the effort, you’ll get a greater variety of perspectives than just this one thread. I personally like p79, p74, and p83 the most. Only p74, would I consider, as a comfort/rapport type putative. ---
**Author:** ![Saifz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Saifz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Saifz)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 2:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-wanna-try-putatives-please-help-me/21266/5 "2008-10-13T02:46:22Z")
I have an issue with creeping out girls sometimes, would [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) be of any help in that area? to make the approach when i make it less “threatening” ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 8:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-wanna-try-putatives-please-help-me/21266/6 "2008-10-13T08:04:49Z")
Depends on why you think you creep girls out. It could help if your congruent with the mix but if you doing something creepy it wont LOL Tish ---
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 11:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-wanna-try-putatives-please-help-me/21266/7 "2008-10-13T11:03:09Z")
in order of my personal preferance 1. p74(social, people want to be around you) 2. p83(not sexual but it can turn out that way. its tends to make you want to fufill your inner cravings that you don’t always show on the surface du to social pressure) 3. p103 (relief from emotional baggage, and just lets you be the happy you and the people around you all just be happy versions of themselves) ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 3:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-wanna-try-putatives-please-help-me/21266/8 "2008-10-13T15:20:49Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Its good stuff, Have you tried any of the T series. These are putatives to. > > TAF TAK and TAC are good for testing. I was talking to SteveO just the other day and he told me that the T series are actually considered pheromones now. They started out as putatives, but through testing and feedback and possible outside research they have proven themselves. They carry the T label, to make it harder for the competition to benefit from the research and testing from Androtics and us phero junkies. The 3 that Tisha suggested are all good, but for what you are looking to achieve I would probably lean toward TAK, TAA is also great and is what [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is based on. Of the putatives, P74, P83 and P93 get my votes too, and if you’re adventerous you might try P75 or P76, which I’ve only played with a bit and really need to delve into more, but it has been hinted that one or both may possess None type qualities, without the negatives and potential aggression. ---
**Author:** ![Saifz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Saifz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Saifz)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 3:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-wanna-try-putatives-please-help-me/21266/9 "2008-10-13T15:24:56Z")
I have TAA oil, I’ll add TAK to the list, thanks dallas 🙂 Tisha yeah i realized creepiness is about incongruence..that’s why heavy none messes with my social life in college.. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-wanna-try-putatives-please-help-me/21266/10 "2008-10-13T16:20:50Z")
Mark, why do you suggest TAK? A lot of people here consider it simply a ‘stfu’ [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/). What do you use TAK for? ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 6:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-wanna-try-putatives-please-help-me/21266/11 "2008-11-24T06:14:34Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Depends on why you think you creep girls out. It could help if your congruent with the mix but if you doing something creepy it wont LOL > > Tish I have the same types of reactions, being a bigger, taller guy, I have a fair amount of luck with CTTM2, and light applications of TAA and P74. It is quite amazing how A314 helps in professional situations, but is opposite in social settings. I tend to avoid sexual [pheromones](https://a314.com/) when going out to meet women, basically IO & IH and some P74, with 1-2 sprays of Ammo, (no TUTH or A314) ---
**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 1:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-wanna-try-putatives-please-help-me/21266/12 "2008-11-24T13:31:41Z")
Hello to everybody! I agree with all the others that suggested [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/), and I’d also suggest P93 as it works pretty well. See ya Franz ---
**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-wanna-try-putatives-please-help-me/21266/13 "2008-12-11T17:09:07Z")
p74 and p83. try p83 especially if you use ammo or Turn up the heat. wowza. those are some heavy obvious hits i get.