# I want "a little" of androstenone! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 29, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-a-little-of-androstenone/8710 "2008-01-29T03:01:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![deimos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@deimos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deimos)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-a-little-of-androstenone/8710/1 "2008-01-29T03:01:49Z")
Hey guys, After my 3 sprays of ammo OD nightmare, I decided to test it carefully. And, I have been testing ammo for one week, every time rubbing it off harshly. In some cases, even 1 spray seems too much for my purposes. Seriously… I know, you won’t believe. But, I need to know an effective way of using half a spray. I am NOT a phero maniac. My principle is to get benefit from pheros as little as possible so as to make things go more naturally and I don’t like heavy mixes either. I just use [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) regularly (it’s like an anti-depressant 🙂) and occasionally wear another phero besides. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![sheba](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sheba/32/1664_2.png) [@sheba](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sheba)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-a-little-of-androstenone/8710/2 "2008-01-29T03:22:12Z")
When I need a very small amount of none, I take the sprayer off my bottle and then dab the tube end on my wrist and then spread it all around with both wrists. This way I can get less than a full spray per application. I also just read a great post using [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) for younger guys. Still plenty of respect but less intimidation. Here’s the link if you want to check it out: > [@Instant gentleman advice](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-advice/7834): > > Hello I’m about to recieve Instant gentleman, can someone tell me what it does different than a314 which I have but can be a lil bit intimadating to people, even if they dig you. Will instant gentleman impart a george clooney vibe. And can I use it with wagg like my a314/wagg mix. btw I took 25mg dhea today and it felt like I had on 4 sprays of The edge very very edgy and sour feeling and people were uncomfortable ofcourse lol. hehehehehehehe I love to scare ppl with my pi also. But I … ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-a-little-of-androstenone/8710/3 "2008-01-29T04:27:54Z")
How frequently have you been testing ammo throughout the week? ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 4:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-a-little-of-androstenone/8710/4 "2008-01-29T04:54:52Z")
dilute it with an equal volume of something else. then 1 spray of the diluted mix will give you the same amount of ammo as 1/2 spray of regular ammo. You can dilute with - cologne/perfumer’s alcohol/everclear/vodka/Ishine ---
**Author:** ![deimos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@deimos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deimos)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 5:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-a-little-of-androstenone/8710/5 "2008-01-29T05:52:27Z")
sheba: Your suggestion seems sound. But, in that case I wouldn’t be able to control the amount I am using. It might turn out to be less on the other hand. sigma: 3 sprays (OD). Wait for 6 days to cool down. 2 sprays (considerable increase in IOI’s, some are intimidated). Wait for 2 days to cool down. 1 spray (still good results, very few male friends still act strange). Wait for 2 days to cool down. 1 spray (same as before). One peculiarity of ammo for me is that it makes my heart race as I already have a sensitive metabolism. I posted about this. Do you find anything strange? How often ammo should be used? I’m already getting more than I want with two sprays. Since I have actually experienced that its effects last long, I put those waiting periods accompanied with showers, rubbing with alcohol etc. Gone with the Wind: Good idea! But, how am I supposed to mix a full bottle of ammo with something else, hence doubling its volume and put it back into a larger bottle which I can easily use? The sprayer-bottle combo should match. Besides, I still have small togo bottles. I will be ordering them as soon as I save some money. I assume it’s easy to deal with regular ones (sprayer etc). But, I also assume they are not half full so that I cannot do what you say. Any detailed and specific information about what I have pointed out in this posting will be much appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 8:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-a-little-of-androstenone/8710/6 "2008-01-29T08:21:48Z")
Dabbing directly from the bottle is the fastest and easiest solution. Diluting Ammo with alcohol will ruin the cologne strength. However Ammo smells exactly like Nautica Competition. Cut it 1:1 to reduce [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) concentration while maintaining the cologne strength. I actually bought Ammo 2x and cut it 1:1 with Nautica Competition. Works great and smells exactly as it should. Consider using a pocket atomizer that delivers a smaller spray volume. I greatly prefer Sephora atomizers (silver one) over the stock Androtics 30ml spray head: delivers a finer mist and about half the volume. In fact, all my custom mixes are in Sephora atomizers. I’m not very fond of the togo bottles but if you have an empty the spray volume is less. Doesn’t deliver a mist cloud like the Sephora atomizers. Incidentally, Ammo isn’t a androstenone heavy product. It’s a nice balance of social and sensual mones: TAA, androstenol, androsterone and androstenone. Hard core androstenone products are TUTH, NPA, TE, Primal, etc. Those will grow a little man hair where you need it… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 9:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-a-little-of-androstenone/8710/7 "2008-01-29T09:56:53Z")
> [@deimos](#): > > Hey guys, > After my 3 sprays of ammo OD nightmare, I decided to test it carefully. And, I have been testing ammo for one week, every time rubbing it off harshly. In some cases, even 1 spray seems too much for my purposes. Seriously… I know, you won’t believe. But, I need to know an effective way of using half a spray. I am NOT a phero maniac. My principle is to get benefit from pheros as little as possible so as to make things go more naturally and I don’t like heavy mixes either. I just use Instant Shine regularly (it’s like an anti-depressant 🙂) and occasionally wear another phero besides. > > Thanks Deimos Its not that we dont believe you, I dont want to be harsh but mones are just not for everyone. If anone products are still making your heart palputation condition act up stop using them. Its as simple as that. You havnt had a OD your having a reaction due to your existing condition. I feel that you make yourself anxious because your nervous about the OD effect and this is likely whats causing your problem In all likelihood a diluted spray of ammo will have very little if any pheromonal benefits to you and is not worth the palputations. I suggest you call steveO and return the product. Just like everything else in life every product wont fit every person. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 12:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-a-little-of-androstenone/8710/8 "2008-01-29T12:22:46Z")
> [@deimos](#): > > …Gone with the Wind: Good idea! But, how am I supposed to mix a full bottle of ammo with something else, hence doubling its volume and put it back into a larger bottle which I can easily use? The sprayer-bottle combo should match. Besides, I still have small togo bottles. I will be ordering them as soon as I save some money. I assume it’s easy to deal with regular ones (sprayer etc). But, I also assume they are not half full so that I cannot do what you say… 1- find bigger bottle with a cap or a cork. 2- empty to-go of ammo into bigger bottle. 3-fill now empty to-go bottle with dilutent of choice. 4- empty to-go bottle into larger bottle. 5- shake mixture 6- fill now empty to-go bottle from larger bottle. 7- cap both bottles. 8- when to-go bottle is empty from useage, refill again from the mixture in the larger bottle ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-a-little-of-androstenone/8710/9 "2008-01-29T19:02:45Z")
Deimos may I suggest college logic classes? May help with problem solving skills… ---
**Author:** ![deimos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@deimos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deimos)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-a-little-of-androstenone/8710/10 "2008-01-29T20:47:57Z")
tisha: I am impressed that you keep track of my problems and your giving suggestions. I have ill affects with 2 or 3 sprays. 1 spray is perfect. It doesn’t make me feel bad. I am talking about the affects on others. Maybe I am exaggerating. My buddy comes up with an excuse and leaves when we are hanging out. It’s been twice. It bothers me. Besides, I don’t want things to go unnaturally. Gone with the Wind: Thanks for the detailed step by step instructions. Gegogi: 1. I took logic classes in undergrad years. 2. I’m a PhD student. 3. I have published papers in scientific conferences. 4. I have published articles and poems in literature magazines. 5. My IQ is approximately 150. 6. I have degrees in national puzzle competitions. 7. I have degrees in national math competitions. 8. Shall I send my CV to you? 9. I have mild bipolar disorder. Motivates creativity. But, sometimes restrains you to act accordingly in simple settings. 10. Am I clear enough? ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-a-little-of-androstenone/8710/11 "2008-01-29T21:48:01Z")
> [@deimos](#): > > 1. I took logic classes in undergrad years. > 2. I’m a PhD student. > 3. I have published papers in scientific conferences. > 4. I have published articles and poems in literature magazines. > 5. My IQ is approximately 150. > 6. I have degrees in national puzzle competitions. > 7. I have degrees in national math competitions. > 8. Shall I send my CV to you? > 9. I have mild bipolar disorder. Motivates creativity. But, sometimes restrains you to act accordingly in simple settings. > 10. Am I clear enough? Man, now I’m really impressed! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-a-little-of-androstenone/8710/12 "2008-01-29T21:54:22Z")
You can use dabbing as Gegogi suggested, or use drops. Transfer in a medicine cap dropper bottle, you can even get one from Androtics shop [15 mL Cobalt Bottle with Dropper Top :: Mixing Supplies :: Androtics Direct/SmartMones](https://a314.com/) If you buy two of these you can transfer the entire contents of your [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) bottle. Drop method will really help you. Finally as Tisha said you can always return it. IShine seems to be working well for you. Why not try other products which have no -none? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-a-little-of-androstenone/8710/13 "2008-01-29T21:54:32Z")
> [@](#): > > Deimos writes, “Am I clear enough?” Cool. I never would have guessed. Myself I’m Math impaired and have difficulty remembering my address or phone number! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 12:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-a-little-of-androstenone/8710/14 "2008-01-30T00:22:48Z")
> [@](#): > > tisha: I am impressed that you keep track of my problems and your giving suggestions. Thats why I am the hostess/Mod of the forum 😉 I gotta say I am surprised just one spray would have that effect on your friend. OD usually occurs at much higher levels. It only has 2.5 mcg’s of Androstenone in it. Its more likely he would become aggressive or snappy then just walk away from you if it was to much Androstenone. The ghost effect is more rare really Have you thought about trying something like [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). You will get the respect and confidence with that without the aggression. You wont have to worry about the OD effect either. I think the social products would be better for you to use. Tisha